US Politics, September 2024 -- “I’m Not Going to Apologize For Posting a Joke”

I think it was more nobody really knew how this was gonna work, people here figured out pretty quick that the only workable successor was gonna be her

I have to admit that it is extremely funny that someone wrote a column talking about the blind spot vortex people of color often find themselves in and the overarching response here is a bunch of (mostly) white guys going “I don’t see it”

it also didn't help that she was out of sight for most of biden's presidency! you would have really had to search for her to find her on the news or in newspapers.

And part of Rofer's argument is that she was invisible because of who she was (the vice president, also black, also a woman), so there could not possibly have been any news value in reporting on what she was doing — traveling to Central and South American countries to get their leaders to help stem the tide of immigration, which worked (apparently she wrote a long report which no one in the media ever read or told anyone about); going to Ukraine to warn Zelensky that Russia was planning to invade; etc., etc. She's been invisible this entire time because the media is designed to render people like her invisible, so all of a sudden everyone is forced to ask, "Who is this person and how did she get good at this?"

Harris was mainly in the new the last few years for making statements that sounded simultaneously inane and surreal.

I have to admit that it is extremely funny that someone wrote a column talking about the blind spot vortex people of color often find themselves in and the overarching response here is a bunch of (mostly) white guys going “I don’t see it”

I can't even count the number of times I've seen it happen to you (and I may well have been part of that in the past), so yeah.

I'm contesting Rofer's point that a open convention was the received wisdom. She's right about the media-enforced invisibility.

"I have to admit that it is extremely funny that someone wrote a column talking about the blind spot vortex people of color often find themselves in and the overarching response here is a bunch of (mostly) white guys going “I don’t see it”

i couldn't tell what was going on in that excerpt. it was written really poorly. a black mental hole could have been lots of things.

and this just made it more confusing to me:

"This is not confined to women’s issues. It happens with issues of racism and colonialism."

so i read further. and someone was saying that kamala harris wasn't seen as a replacement for joe biden. which isn't true.

also this is totally vague.

"Similarly... Harris outlined her plan to defeat Trump in the debate ahead of time, but a great many didn’t notice."

i dunno. i just hate bad writing that is confusing as well as bad. but, to be fair, i didn't read the whole thing. just the excerpt. and i didn't read the rest because the excerpt was bad.

A great many of those advocating Biden’s removal proposed an “open primary” or a convoluted method for finding a replacement candidate: three party elders, two convention votes, and a partridge in a pear tree. The black hole bent all the discussion around it.

These statements apply very poorly the discussions here on the ILX US politics threads during the period post-debate-debacle. The "oh how shall we ever pick a replacement" handwringing and suggestions of some kind of speed-dating game with possible successors hand-picked by the party elders were roundly dismissed as pure nonsense. I was among those who pointed out that Harris was standing right there as VP and was the only viable choice, so what was their problem?

If the point of the thinkpiece is that such suggestions never should have arisen among our mostly old white male political class and such obvious idiocy they only made them sound out of touch with reality, then, sure thing. That idea is bread-and-butter around these parts.

Just for the record, this is the current narrative regarding today's guy-who-pointed-a-gun-at-Trump incident:

The unnamed suspect was hiding in shrubbery along the golf course’s fence line running parallel to a main road and armed with an AK-47 style rifle and scope. He was estimated to be between 300 and 500 yards from Trump, who was out on the course playing golf with Secret Service protection. “With a rifle with a scope like that, that’s not a lot of difference,” said Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw.

A Secret Service agent positioned at least one hole ahead of Trump spotted the barrel of the rifle sticking through the fence and fired at least four shots in the gunman’s direction. The gunman fled, leaving behind a backpack containing plates for body armor and a GoPro camera that authorities believed he intended to use during the attempted assassination.

As the gunman ran, an eyewitness saw him get into a car and took a photo of the license plate that was sent to authorities, according to Bradshaw. License plate readers on I-95 detected the vehicle driving northwest into another county where sheriff’s deputies stopped the vehicle and apprehended the suspect. Bradshaw said the suspect did not make statements about the attack on Trump.

xp I think the point is that there were lots of "serious thinkers" who started their analysis from the assumption that no clear favorite existed, when in fact the decision to pass over the sitting vice-president for that role would be an extraordinary occurrence that requires a seriously thoughtful explanation.

otm

clearly the people who wanted someone or something else werent the ones actually making the decision

btw people getting awful close to trump with big guns

wonder if this guy saw what the other guy did and was all i could make that shot

Tied with Gerald Ford now.

mans at home golfing instead of campaigning and people are still trying to shoot him, rude

Probably one of Loomer’s exes.

btw people getting awful close to trump with big guns

The best way for him to avoid this would be for him to leave the US and never come back. Just a suggestion...

interesting point, almost has to be that theres widespread belief amongst the maga set that loomer and trump are having an affair

Eric Blair @protecttruth.bsky.social‬
Ok. I’m starting to wonder if there is something bigger under the surface going on with Laura Loomer.

Republicans did not react this way to Pizzagate, or Chris Rufo, or S Miller. They love racism and conspiracy theories.
So why are craven GOP pols like Tillis reacting like this?

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Twitter rumor is the shooter is a Vivek/haley voter lmao

damn i didnt know it was that serious

She's been invisible this entire time because the media is designed to render people like her invisible

no doubt that is true to some extent, but it is also true that the Biden administration failed to elevate her profile and give her opportunities to succeed (as Ron Klain himself admitted), and Harris herself also deliberately avoided the spotlight for a while after her disastrous interview with Lester Holt in 2021.

Thom Tillis knows he has a clear path to criticize Loomer, who's peripheral and expendable, as long as he doesn't breathe a word directly criticizing Trump. This is a politically expedient way for him to distance himself from the less popular kinds of lunacy Trump has welcomed into the party.

It’s just that she’s an electoral hazard, nothing more.

little did we know that all the time that kamala was out of the public eye as vp she was secretly working out with karate masters deep in the camp david woods with a constant soundtrack of Survivor and TLC to inspire her. waiting for her chance to strike...

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If Loomer had a sinecure at a right-wing think tank she’d be hailed as a genius.

because for real and no joking she was READY. i have rarely seen someone SO ready to take over. pretty amazing.

many xxp

but she hasn't been invisible for people who cared to follow her. there are lots of stories and personal accounts and clips of her meeting with foreign leaders, women's groups, college students etc. over the last few years, with people clearly enthusiastic about her. but the videos of her occasional gaffes were eagerly accepted by mainstream media

It’s just that she’s an electoral hazard, nothing more.

― O 'Tis Redding (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, September 15, 2024 6:19 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

why is she, indistinguishable from any other maga freak pulling on trumps hem, pushing the same conspiracy as vance, an electoral hazard, why is the team turning on her so hard

Gotta be the 9/11 stuff

trump has been around people whove said far wilder shit than she has, he was meeting with nick fuentes, none of them made any sort of big deal out of it

was thinking maybe they just really dislike her on a personal level but cmon these people gotta all hate each other guts theyre a bunch of nasty psychos

maybe theyre all trying to get him to campaign and shes telling him its cool to stay home and play golf

I mean we can’t rule out misogyny.

the golf course sniper...

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Also Trump wasn’t fucking Nick Fuentes.

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@NikkiHaley Please join Vivek Ramaswamy as a team of pres and vp; we must do this now to create a winning ticket now that we all can get behind. Please do not be selfish and arrogant; partner now to change the course of this election. Break norms and give us an option.

— Ryan Routh 🇺🇸 (@RyanRouth) January 9, 2024

Also voted for trump in 2016

dont think theres been any official confirmation that thats the guy fwiw, everyone on twitter does seem to be running with it tho

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that's him getting taken in.

case closed i guess

he's on the way to gitmo as we speak.

oh man those secret service people are REALLY in hot water this time. holy toledo. they almost did it again! buncha dodos. or they are just totally sick of trump and are not worrying about him too much.

I don’t know, if a Secret Service agent was a hole ahead of Trump, saw a rifle barrel sticking out of the bushes from however far away, and took action before Trump got closer than 300-500 yards, it sounds like they did their job.

Seems like these people think their AR/AK rifles automatically become sniper rifles when they put a scope on them

he didnt even get a shot off he blew it

If he were a plant like I initially suspected, he would definitely have gotten shot and killed like the other guy; this makes me less suspicious of Trump’s SS detail as parties to some Trump-attention-getting conspiracy.