US Politics, September 2024 -- “I’m Not Going to Apologize For Posting a Joke”

i still think there's enough pushback among normal folks to keep the ravaging of our national parks at bay, for now.

xp OTM - That's more a testament to how powerful modern propaganda is. What really drags me down is just how effective our technology has become at psychologically keeping us at bay and at each other's throats.

Maybe we really need a giant solar flare to knock out the world's electrical infrastructure after all

I dunno if this story went national, but my boy DeSantis suffered a pretty formidable legislative defeat last week when a bipartisan coalition fought the PR and ballot box battle to -- get this -- build golf courses on state parks.

So people care about parks.

thomas piketty’s new book is all about the link between climate change and inequality btw

i think theres still a lot of nature appreciators in america even amongst right wingers, but the situation has for sure been politicized to the max

I've mentioned this before I think, but one of the most contentious issues in Montana is asshole Republicans trying to limit people's access to public lands and waters — hunters and fishermen are really up in arms about this shit. If Ryan Busse wins the governorship, this might be one of the issues that pushes him over the top.

Access to nature and the connection the vast majority of humans have to it is something that has historically transcended political divisions in the post-industrial world.

Alfred - what's up with DeSantis's door-knocker election police? re: the reproductive rights ballot measure, and folks who signed the petitions. That seems like some straight-up fascist shit

Alfred - what's up with DeSantis's door-knocker election police? re: the reproductive rights ballot measure, and folks who signed the petitions. That seems like some straight-up fascist shit

Seems like something to be wary of volunteering for in a Stand Your Ground/Castle Doctrine state, too.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2024/09/04/florida-desantis-abortion-amendment-petition-signatures-fraud/

I heard something like: they were going to send cops out to the addresses on the petition to confirm the signatory lived there... total voter intimidation

i think theres still a lot of nature appreciators in america even amongst right wingers, but the situation has for sure been politicized to the max

I think there's a lot of Christian Dominionists amongst the right wingers who are committed to burning the earth because it's God's Plenty to do so

i do sometimes think about re-reading the monkeywrench gang except not for fun this time

― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, September 12, 2024 11:41 AM

Enh. Ed Abbey can go fuck himself from beyond the grave. Small-minded action from a smaller-minded racist

good writer though but he can still go fuck himself

agree, fuck ed abbey.

the complex that generated the american national park system isn't going to be relevant at all when it comes to doing something about climate change.

scott's line about nature regulating us is just about the only otm thing i've read in this conversation tbh. we sure think we can do a lot about things. silly humans.

i mean tbf we did warm the whole planet

I always thought Abbey was obviously a curmudgeon, but...

Oh wait, I'm thinking of Wallace Stegner, nevermind

both suck ass lol

i mean tbf we did warm the whole planet

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 12, 2024 11:24 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

but was this a choice? i have my doubts.

My uni's chapter of United Faculty of Florida. When DeSantis threatened to decertify if we didn't hit 50% paid members; we exceeded this goal. Yesterday we secured a rather impressive raise/bonus package from the administration effective in a few weeks: the best of my time here. Again, it feels good.

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, September 12, 2024 2:11 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Fuck yeah, way to go. I'm in WI so we don't have bargaining rights, but things are very slowly moving in a positive direction.

Btw it's head spinning that FL public sector unions are better off than in WI

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Congratulations, Alfred!

thanks!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/650-foot-tsunami-greenland-fjord-180212833.html

Last September, seismologists around the world detected vibrations unlike any they’d picked up before.

A monotonous hum seemed to be emanating from Greenland. It would last for nine days.

“This very, very weird signal showed up that I’d never seen before at some of our stations in the North,” said Carl Ebeling, a seismologist with the University of California, San Diego’s Scripps Institution of Oceanography.

Soon after the vibrations began, a cruise ship sailing near fjords in Greenland noticed that on the remote Ella Island, a key landmark — a base used for scientific research and by the Danish military for sled dog patrols — had been destroyed.

The events drew an international group of seismologists, the Danish military and oceanographers into the mystery: What had struck the island, and where did it come from?

On Thursday, researchers released their conclusions in the journal Science. The island had been hit by one of the biggest tsunamis ever recorded, they said, with waves that left a watermark about 650 feet high.

It was the result of a series of rare, cascading events set in motion by climate change.

The initial trigger came when warming temperatures caused the tongue of a thinning glacier to collapse, the researchers found. That destabilized a steep mountainside, sending a rock and ice avalanche crashing into Greenland’s deep Dickson Fjord. That displaced a massive volume of water, so a towering wave traveled across the narrow fjord, which is about 1.5 miles wide.

The tsunami waves — some at least as tall as the Statue of Liberty — ran up the steep rock walls lining the fjord. Because the landslide struck the waterway at a nearly 90-degree angle, waves bounced back and forth across it for nine days — a phenomenon scientists call a seiche.

Yeah Alfred, great news for sure. Also:

I dunno if this story went national, but my boy DeSantis suffered a pretty formidable legislative defeat last week when a bipartisan coalition fought the PR and ballot box battle to -- get this -- build golf courses on state parks.

Very much saw some stories on this, also on how the guy who essentially whistleblew to get it to everyone's attention was fired by some DeSantis minion, I'm sure, but put up a GoFundMe and blew past his goal easily. So that was kinda great!

I'm kinda glad that this Loomer lady is the Rasputin whispering in Trump's ear... hopefully she'll tell him more about the 9/11 'inside job' and chemtrails and lizard people

shes such a rando to get his ear genuine d lister considered a joke even amongst those jokers, maybe she raised her profile when she ran for office idk

mightve gotten to the bottom of it

This is why Trump is hanging out with Laura Loomer. Watch them with their hands all over each other at Mar-a-Lago. Note: He’s married. pic.twitter.com/GKdSMjDnvD

— Mike Sington (@MikeSington) September 12, 2024

Eewwwwwwwwwwwwwww

she looks like a young(er) slovenian

wonder if they're in the Mile High Club together

Does Trump know she's Jewish? Feel like that would be his throwback bigotry dealbreaker.

a lot of his good friends are Jewish

the lady and the trump

wow

Hey @mtgreenee

Remember when you destroyed your family so you could have sex with a Zangief cosplayer?

Tell me again how you and the Arby’s in your pants are representatives of the GOP?

You couldn’t even run your own family.

Don’t tell me how to run my FREE SPEECH! https://t.co/5uLJazc1Jh pic.twitter.com/XI1zwE8fXR

— Laura Loomer (@LauraLoomer) September 12, 2024

You go, girl... tell him all that weird shit

When Trump landed in Philadelphia on Tuesday before his debate against Harris, Loomer was among the close allies seen deboarding his private plane. Some saw it as no coincidence that hours later, an erratic Trump exclaimed from the debate stage that immigrants were “eating the pets” of Ohioans, referencing a fast-escalating rumor about Haitian migrants circulated this week by the online right, including Loomer. Trump’s own running mate, Sen. JD Vance, had spread that false claim before acknowledging on Tuesday that it may not be true.

Trump surprised some of his advisers when he brought the rumors to the debate stage Tuesday night, sources familiar with the situation told CNN.

xp "Arby's in your pants"???? Is MTG known for meat curtains or something? holy shit

*eats more popcorn*

Loomer vs. MTG is about as Aliens vs. Predator as it gets, yeeeeeeeesh.

my favorite laura loomer fact was that she started an ISIS fan club at her college to prove that liberals would join it but nobody joined and she got expelled for starting an ISIS fan club lol https://t.co/lVZfuxoOui

— america's lounge singer (@KrangTNelson) September 11, 2024

This is why Trump is hanging out with Laura Loomer. Watch them with their hands all over each other at Mar-a-Lago.

Every time I see some new piece of nonsense my brain adds "... and he still has a 50/50 shot at being president again."

oh yeah..

Loomer also repeatedly attacked Greene over her divorce. “Along with being an anti-semite, MTG is also a poor excuse for a Christian,” Loomer wrote in one post.

Loomer said that Greene’s attacks on X were motivated by jealousy. “Nobody talks about her anymore because she’s annoying and irrelevant and a sellout,” she wrote in one post.

Two days before the debate, Loomer said that if Harris, who is half Indian, wins, “the White House will smell like curry & White House speeches will be facilitated via a call center.”

It was a bridge too far even for Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, a notorious firebrand herself known to promote conspiracy theories, who wrote on social media that Loomer’s post was “appalling and extremely racist.”

She added: “It does not represent who we are as Republicans or MAGA.”

My favorite Laura Looner moment was when Tim Pool had to cut his YouTube feed to black because she started talked about executing Trump critics.

“Wow” doesn’t quite cover it.

Very jarring that MTG is pretty much on the right side of this, a stopped clock etc....

watch it'll turn out that Loomer is Putin's stepdaughter or something

Huh.

What are the chances we're going to have a better title for the October thread than, "the Arby's in your pants".

?

we're not even halfway through the month, something worse will come down the pike