US Politics, September 2024 -- “I’m Not Going to Apologize For Posting a Joke”

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Midwest Modern! That guy is fighting the good fight while touring the area where I grew up.

lol you people are insane

— Midwest Modern (@JoshLipnik) September 9, 2024

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 9 September 2024 23:13 (one year ago)

Polling error gotta be like 3% right?

xpost

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 September 2024 23:15 (one year ago)

"I need to hear more about Harris, she's an unknown..."

who are these people?? She's the fucking vice president! what do you need to know?

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 9 September 2024 23:49 (one year ago)

how far she can go on Hot Ones, y'know, important stuff like that

go polish your nose ring (sleeve), Monday, 9 September 2024 23:51 (one year ago)

xp Apparently a lot of people. We live in such a stupid country, but even a lot of the smart people I know have never paid an iota of attention to her and what she's accomplished, until now

Dan S, Monday, 9 September 2024 23:53 (one year ago)

yeah, I guess living in the Bay Area - we knew her all along, since the 90s

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 00:01 (one year ago)

I'm not going to watch the debate tomorrow. Trump is hard to debate because he doesn't debate, he never answers any questions, he just uses his time to dominate, deflect, denigrate and lie lie lie. I'm hoping she has a strategy for countering that, but I don't want the stress of being an observer

Dan S, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 00:06 (one year ago)

I have no plans to watch it either.. I'll just wait for the highlights. There's nothing to be gleaned from this

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 00:13 (one year ago)

I'm going to watch the Emmys on Sunday, though

Dan S, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 00:24 (one year ago)

It’s rigged.

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 00:30 (one year ago)

I won't be watching either. I already know which of the two of them I'll be voting for.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 00:35 (one year ago)

I will be watching Marc Ribot and Shahzad Ismaily do something or other. Not debate, probably.

Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 00:49 (one year ago)

I knew the Biden debate would be too painful to watch, but I might watch this one. I wouldn't mind seeing Kamala Harris wreck him. Of course, she may also fail and plunge me into a dark depression.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 01:01 (one year ago)

I think she'll be fine, I don't know about putting any dents in him though. He'll just say all the same shit he always does.

Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 01:10 (one year ago)

call me optimistic, but I think we are are long overdue for a "have you no decency, sir" moment

go polish your nose ring (sleeve), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 01:11 (one year ago)

like, a withering putdown (or five) that are even better than "will you shut up, man?"

go polish your nose ring (sleeve), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 01:12 (one year ago)

I'd say she and her advisors know that whatever happens tomorrow evening it won't be a debate, but an opportunity to see what a Harris presidency might look and feel like, to gauge her ability to speak to the listeners and to demonstrate her overall capabilities.

I'll guess the most difficult questions for her will be those that require her to embrace Biden's performance in office or distance herself from him, especially in regard to Gaza, because either approach has political drawbacks - and if she tries to finesse it, it will sound weak and evasive. The 'moderator(s?)' will understand this and therefore see it as their job to make her squirm and see what happens.

It's a weird tradition to hold these performances, but very little about US elections is direct or sensible, or even about governance.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 01:24 (one year ago)

Having the mics off cuts down on the chances of Trump letting out an <audible> N-word.

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 01:30 (one year ago)

It would be amazing if she answered every question with legit policy specifics in an optimistic way, but ended each answer with a statement that makes Donny Dipshit mad to where he spends his entire time meandering like a moron in hopes to defend himself, never getting to a single policy or attack
(HARRIS: "...that's why we support labor unions, and it's weird that Trump says I cannot be two things at the same time, because he's proved that one can be a convict and a rapist!"
MODERATOR: "VP Harris, you're time is up - Former President Trump, want to respond?")

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 01:36 (one year ago)

I'm sure she has some rhetorical strategies planned. Honestly, beating Trump in a debate is kinda low stakes. He's a lunatic and people hate him.

Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 01:53 (one year ago)

I have always watched presidential debates, but I'm not sure I can do it. Biden freaked me out too much. Obviously, I don't think she will be that bad, but I also don't think it will be a fun watch.

jaymc, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 02:05 (one year ago)

I will watch with some anxiety--my bowling league starts tomorrow, so I'll have to PVR and catch up. I don't think I'll read anything first, just watch.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 02:09 (one year ago)

Ya it’s gonna suck, I might watch for a bit just to see what the tone is

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 02:09 (one year ago)

imo the strategy is to throw a lot of little digs in there that Trump will feel compelled to respond to, there's actually been some attention paid to the fact that Trump can't answer a simple question, keeping him as distracted and pissy as possible might help

on the other hand I do think people are starting to wonder what Kamala's actual platform is, I think it might be good to outline some specific things for once.

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 02:44 (one year ago)

People also wonder what Trump's actual platform is, but he is such a reflexive liar who spouts nonsense the way a squid squirts ink that they understand going in that getting any substance out of him is as hopeless as getting milk from a snake. Being the 'sane' one (and a woman) puts Harris at a clear disadvantage in that there are expectations of her that far exceed any expectations of her opponent.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 03:47 (one year ago)

I mean yes if she started speaking the way Trump does it would be very worrying

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 04:29 (one year ago)

I'd love it if she had a way to bring this kind of vibe to the debate

We’re running this ad on Fox News this morning for no particular reason pic.twitter.com/3F77xxAiDG

— Kamala HQ (@KamalaHQ) September 10, 2024

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:06 (one year ago)

just realized that Barack Obama is becoming Kamala Harris' anger translator

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:07 (one year ago)

That's a good ad.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:08 (one year ago)

Trollbama

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:12 (one year ago)

Q: You can't shame Trump and his MAGA herrenvolk, so what can you do?

A: Goad them!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:15 (one year ago)

she definitely needs to point out how "weird" their ideas are. that'll get him. he hates the weird thing.

scott seward, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:16 (one year ago)

"Harris’ campaign has been trying to throw Trump off balance for days, and they will bring Scaramucci and Troye to warn against Trump" (CNN)

Some ex-staff people are good going after Trump, but I wish they'd stay clear of Scaramucci. He comes on all sage and considered now, but I find it impossible to unremember his insane interviews during his time working for Trump--he was as bad as Spicer or anybody.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:18 (one year ago)

Some ex-staff people are good going after Trump, but I wish they'd stay clear of Scaramucci. He comes on all sage and considered now, but I find it impossible to unremember his insane interviews during his time working for Trump--he was as bad as Spicer or anybody.

Have you learned nothing? The biggest lesson from the Age of Trump is that yesterday doesn't matter; what you say today, and how you present yourself today, is what counts. Scaramucci was a dangerous idiot for the few days that he had power; seven years later, he's just a funny little Joe Pesci guy who gets to go on cable and shit-talk Trump, and that's his only value, and the only context in which we need to think about him.

Harris seems to have taken this lesson to heart, though she should push it further. When some cable hack tries to pin her down on some shit she said in 2019 she should say, "It's 2024. Do you still believe everything you believed in 2019?"

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:22 (one year ago)

harris stalled with the gaza bullshit

― he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, September 9, 2024 2:39 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yeah and just general centrist nowheresville

lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:22 (one year ago)

Got as far as "Have you learned nothing?"--amazing that you're still on this condescending crude after you thoroughly embarrassed yourself with Biden.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:23 (one year ago)

he was as bad as Spicer or anybody

People are saying that politics makes weird bedfellows.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:24 (one year ago)

crude = crusade (but "crude" works too)

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:24 (one year ago)

I was kind of hoping you meant crudite, I’m a little peckish

laughter is the best weapon (DJP), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:41 (one year ago)

good obama ad. he's a war criminal but he's a good communicator. wish he did it more and did the indie playlist and film producing stuff less.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:44 (one year ago)

they're going all in on the cat thing

In short, don't let the crybabies in the media dissuade you, fellow patriots.

Keep the cat memes flowing.

— JD Vance (@JDVance) September 10, 2024

"yes, it may be false, but keep spreading racist shit"

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:48 (one year ago)

White Stripes are suing the Trump campaign

The singer has made good on the threat, filing a copyright infringement suit, alongside Meg White, as the White Stripes, seeking “significant monetary damages”, and listing Trump, his campaign and Martin as defendants. The suit alleges that the campaign did not seek or obtain permission from the band to use the song, and did not respond to pre-litigation efforts to resolve the issue.

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 17:56 (one year ago)

"Trump Mocks Harris’s Height. But Her Fans See a Certain Stature."

An NYT "both sides" classic on today's front page. (They want Trump to win.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 18:03 (one year ago)

seeking “significant monetary damages”

Time to start moving more of those Trump Bibles off the shelves at the new low low low discount price of $39.95 plus s&h.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 18:06 (one year ago)

i think the scaramucci thing is not the worst idea i've ever heard. presumably expecting him to say stupid stuff that distracts the trump team comms response rather than convince romney republicans.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 18:11 (one year ago)

Kamala Harris is modest in stature, but is considered by some to have Tall Energy. Donald Trump has insisted she shouldn’t be allowed to use “boxes or artificial lifts” during the debate.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 18:11 (one year ago)

Harris should insist Trump not be allowed to use diapers or shoulder pads

omar little, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 18:13 (one year ago)

Josh Marshall view on the debate if you're interested: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/getting-our-heads-around-tonights-debate/sharetoken/83e5a81a-3db5-4981-9db6-1e44ee641840

that's not my post, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 18:22 (one year ago)

I laughed at the description of Kamala's debate prep partner method acting as Trump, i.e. walking around all day being an asshole.

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 18:28 (one year ago)

i thought vance didn't like cats, what does he care if they're getting eaten, only sad childless ladies will be fussed by it

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 10 September 2024 18:36 (one year ago)


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