US Politics, September 2024 -- “I’m Not Going to Apologize For Posting a Joke”

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exactly

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 16:08 (one year ago)

i refuse to believe DJT would move somewhere with a primarily POC population

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 16:33 (one year ago)

Belarus then

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 16:45 (one year ago)

Needs a steady supply of poverty stricken blonde white women

Bad Bairns (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 16:50 (one year ago)

That is quite an imbalance in MI and WI. NC too--Trump's ahead there, but by less than a point.

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:09 (one year ago)

If Trump can flip PA and GA and the 2020 map otherwise stays the same, then that's the ballgame (though at this point I'd probably try harder to hold NC).

jaymc, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:12 (one year ago)

“If Trump can flip X state a decade into his political career” is a hypothetical on the level of “if Trump can throw a kettlebell over Mar-a-Lago’s roof”. Again I ask, who is he bringing into the tent that was not there before? Harris is absolutely kicking his ass with the “oh wow, I guess I’ll vote this year after all” crowd.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:18 (one year ago)

Tbf, he won PA and GA (and MI and WI and AZ) in 2016.

jaymc, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:19 (one year ago)

Furthermore, we're talking about close elections. In 2020, Biden won PA by 1.17% and GA by 0.23%. It's not crazy to think that a couple of thousand voters could move in the other direction for whatever reason.

jaymc, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:23 (one year ago)

"Again I ask, who is he bringing into the tent that was not there before?"

Republican presidential nominee former President Trump is outperforming his 2020 support among Hispanics, who prefer him on immigration during the 2024 race, according to a new poll.

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:24 (one year ago)

You gotta dig into that story a bit:

Republican presidential nominee former President Trump is outperforming his 2020 support among Hispanics, who prefer him on immigration during the 2024 race, according to a new poll.

Hispanic voters give Trump a 42% to 37% advantage over Democrat presidential candidate Vice President Harris regarding immigration policy, Reuters/Ipsos polling shows.

Among the broader electorate, 46% preferred Trump on immigration over the 36% who preferred Harris, according to the Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted on Aug. 21-28.

Hispanics, described as a diverse and fast-growing section of the electorate in the United States, prefer Harris' approach over that of Trump by 18 points for health care and 23 points for climate change, according to the poll. On the economy, the survey found registered voters overall prefer Trump's platform over that of Harris by 45% to 36%.

Hispanic voters prefer former President Trump's approach on immigration over that of Vice President Harris, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos poll.

But Trump and Harris drew equally on the economy among registered Hispanic voters, garnering 39% support from that base each.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:26 (one year ago)

The lede is slightly misleading.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:27 (one year ago)

He's a got a clear lead on immigration, according to the poll, not everything else.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:27 (one year ago)

But this is the most important part:

Harris currently has a 13-point lead among registered Hispanic voters, the poll showed. The Hispanic vote went to Biden by 21 points four years ago, according to a 2020 Pew Research exit poll analysis

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:31 (one year ago)

I think Harris is probably going to win too, but unperson's continual insistence that Trump cannot attract new voters is not panning out in reality.

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:34 (one year ago)

Right! It's more accurate to say "Kamala Harris is below Biden's 2020 numbers among Hispanic voters," not the other lede.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:34 (one year ago)

and every single day, an angry young incel turns 18

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:35 (one year ago)

and every single day, an angry old man yells at clouds for the last time

henry s, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:38 (one year ago)

OH MY GOD IT'S REAL. THIS IS ON THE OFFICIAL KAMALAHQ TIKTOK ACCOUNT. THEY HAVE SUBWAY SURFER GAMEPLAY NEXT TO A CLIP. pic.twitter.com/RucxMWZerG

— Joe (@electionsjoe) September 4, 2024

hott ogo (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:53 (one year ago)

i think KH is going to get way more votes than Biden did in 2020! people like her for one thing. 2020 was all about NOT TRUMP. now it is NOT TRUMP + candidate i can really like and am excited by.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 17:55 (one year ago)

yeah but brat summer is officially over

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 18:12 (one year ago)

(except in the southern hemisphere)

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 18:12 (one year ago)

I don't know if I'd place any bets about either candidate getting more votes than 2020 given that it had 25-30 million more votes than the previous three elections.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 18:18 (one year ago)

despite what the polls are saying I'd be pretty shocked if Harris doesn't win, she's a much better candidate than Hillary or Biden was, while Trump is somehow even worse. I don't know how Trump is going to win over that last 1-3% he needs. hard to see how the "everything's going to hell if Kamala wins" attack is gonna stick given she's been the VP for 4 years. ditto for the "I will fix everything and make everybody rich" thing, not sure if people are gonna buy that given he was already president for 4 years

you never know though, this country is real fuckin dumb sometimes and I can't help but thing the increasingly toxic political climate benefits Trump

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 18:22 (one year ago)

and trump, as usual, has a women problem:

An ABC News/Ipsos poll published Sunday showed Harris with a huge lead over Trump among women, 54 percent to 41 percent, while Trump enjoyed a more modest 51 percent to 46 percent lead over Harris among men.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 18:28 (one year ago)

surprised it’s that close

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 18:32 (one year ago)

interesting finding

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/04/election-poll-low-income-voters-harris-trump/75018088007/

Low income voters − those making less than $20,000 a year − now support Harris over former President Donald Trump, 58%-35%, the biggest jump among all groups, according to the poll. It is a reversal from June, when Trump, at 39%, was three points ahead of Biden, at 36% with voters of this economic group.

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 18:37 (one year ago)

What about the Poorly Educated? Do they still love Trump?

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 18:38 (one year ago)

lol pic.twitter.com/PCfy7GAXdq

— Zeeshan Aleem (@ZeeshanAleem) September 4, 2024

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 19:19 (one year ago)

"When he tried to make mac & cheese.. now get this... he used skim milk!"

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 19:23 (one year ago)

“When he said something was a ‘nothingburger’, it was invariably a ‘somethingburger’.”

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 19:43 (one year ago)

More like Tim Floorz, amirite?

tempted by the food of your mother (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 19:45 (one year ago)

Sometimes funny things happen:

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/a-big-ripoff-white-nationalist-nick-fuentes-blasts-trump-for-admitting-he-lost-the-2020-election/

(The final two paragraphs are a delight.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 21:35 (one year ago)

wonder if this is gonna convince the independants

https://i.imgur.com/7N6BywQ.png

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 21:38 (one year ago)

Cool bro!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 21:40 (one year ago)

But even funnier/more telling:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2024/09/04/indictment-russians-tennessee-company-tenet/75074263007/

Per a summary from the indictment:

Their eventual contact was allegedly $400k/pm to commentator-1 who is presumably Benny Johnson, and $100k/video (weekly) for commentator-2 who is presumably Tim Pool

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 21:41 (one year ago)

more on Walz's shameful past

https://theonion.com/sources-allege-tim-walzs-aw-shucks-persona-merely-facade-concealing-true-gee-whiz-tendencies/

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 21:44 (one year ago)

CapsLock never coming off... lower case is for LOSERS

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 21:46 (one year ago)

all harris ads should just be random trump statements. about bacon and wind. that's all you really need.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 22:07 (one year ago)

man, I've got friends losing their shit over this:

https://www.mediaite.com/news/trumps-advantage-in-nate-silvers-model-expands-harris-campaign-hasnt-found-2nd-gear/

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 22:28 (one year ago)

I think there are plenty of reasonable things to dislike about Nate Silver, but being mad about his numbers isn't something with a great track record tbh. I hope they improve and/or he's wrong, but I'm not gonna yell at polls I don't like.

Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 22:31 (one year ago)

The best response as always is, this election is winnable — go out and win it. The game hasn't been played yet.

Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 22:32 (one year ago)

It's not a matter of being mad at Nate Silver, it's a matter of not paying attention to trends while concentrating on what a pollster said today.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 22:33 (one year ago)

Yeah, I agree. There are reasons to feel optimistic! But mostly imo there are reasons to feel like the Democrats CAN win this and SHOULD win it, so they need to do it. I think the worst thing about polls and projections is the sense of inevitability or momentum they can create in one direction or another, which can be bad whether they're hyping people up or bumming them out.

Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 22:36 (one year ago)

but I'm not gonna yell at polls I don't like

what happened to Rasmussen this time around? I don't think I've heard a peep out of them

this was the poll that called retirement community landlines at 11am on tuesdays and always had trump in front

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 22:56 (one year ago)

Nate Silver's whole thing is an extended act of self-harm; no matter how good his numbers are, he taints the output by being such a smarmy piece of shit. He's almost as bad as that fuck who ran for office in Minnesota recently and got blown out, whose name I can't remember.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 22:58 (one year ago)

Rasmussen is still around

jaymc, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 23:24 (one year ago)

I'm just gonna keep mentally repeating "turnout models suck, nobody knows." It might even be true.

default damager (lukas), Wednesday, 4 September 2024 23:29 (one year ago)

Liz Cheney says she's voting for Harris:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/04/us/politics/liz-cheney-kamala-harris-vote.html

jaymc, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 23:34 (one year ago)


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