who is worse - Taibbi or Greenwald

I only announced after the fact though; I wasn’t trying to empty my bank account

Taibbi looks like a combo between Geoff Tate and a pooka from Dig Dug

he also seems to share the mental faculties of both based on his tweets lately.

every Taibbi tweet I see is just him acting defensive

watching Taibbi turn into the troll at school that violently kicks all of the kids who try to get on the merry go round with him has been equal parts nauseating and mesmerizing

someone needs to turn Taibbi into a gross word like Santorum

xxpost but now it seems he's taken up the post-left pose of "you guys are forcing me into supporting Trump"

Podcast interview (there's a transcript too) with Renée DiResta, formerly of the Stanford Internet Observatory, on how Taibbi connected with fascist 1Mike Benz and became his propagandist.
https://www.niskanencenter.org/the-online-misinformation-epidemic-with-renee-diresta/

From now through November (at least) we’ll be hearing daily that the Electoral College is racist and the Constitution a white male anachronism. pic.twitter.com/m84RkNoToU

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) September 1, 2024

yes and yes

Sadly we probably won't be hearing that daily.

I love paying $32,500 a year to attend a school with no dining facilities, no student governance, no right to protest, and an administration run out of a call center in Guatemala pic.twitter.com/TxmL8QCeK0

— David Klion (@DavidKlion) September 3, 2024

Love the scrappy framing here, three years ago we started out with a mere germ of an idea and the backing of a psychotic Silicon Valley funder worth $425 million like yeah that’s how rightwing ideological production works. All the time, yes https://t.co/2UdTAa66m9

— Adam Johnson (@adamjohnsonCHI) September 2, 2024

I majored in Media Bias with a minor in Race Realism

neither Taibbi nor Greenwald have anything to do with that mess, right? unless one jumped on when I wasn't paying attention

pretty wild there are a couple wizards on staff, though

yeah, probably belongs in Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

pretty wild there are a couple wizards on staff, though

unfortunately these gowns are standard issue

sleeves flap like wizard's vageene.

bari weiss is a taibbi-greenwald

I meant the really long greybeard

guy in the lower right is surely the mad monk of this endeavor

just as will stancil is a klein-yglesias

I accept this phenotypical categorization

bari weiss is a taibbi-greenwald

― lag∞n, Tuesday, September 3, 2024 12:13 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't think she was ever a left winger though.

neither was greenwald

the greenwald-taibbi type is the apostate, like David Horowitz or Hitchens

lol ok

he was always a weird libertarian, people liked him assumed he was on the team because he yelled about bush, but he was always coming at it from a pure civil liberties angle, which wasnt totally obvious because he took pains to conceal his politics but the evidence was there

Regardless, at one point his work helped get Lula's conviction overturned and now Greenwald calls Lula a censorious autocrat.

He coded more lefty than Bari Weiss ever did.

low bar

taibbi while holding more overtly liberal views was always fundamentally reactionary which made his heel turn easy, weiss tried to get fired from the nytimes to set the stage for her reveal which tbf didnt really require much political recalibration

but regardless the thing that unites them today is theyre fellow inhabitants of the intellectual dark web

xpost I don't know what to say. He was a regular on Democracy Now and then he became a regular on Tucker. Something changed.

not saying something didnt change just his politics were never lefty

The way I break it down is that Greenwald and Taibbi are New Jerseys and Bari Weiss is a Fairweather Johnson

ah very interesting

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXSY006XIAAxoVh?format=jpg&name=medium

intriguing, lag00n, not interesting

Chait's been a New York political columnist since 2011, he can use words.

lol true my bad xp

https://i.postimg.cc/DZPvkbMK/93b7us.jpg

p sure the first person i ever read dissecting taibbi's economic stance from the left (viz when MT was still in good standing at rolling stone and long before the intercept debacle lol) was noted pundit lag∞n, on these very boards

lol im a long time taibbi skeptic

"if you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by"

— noted pundit sun tzu

ancient wisdom

I couldn't see a post-left thread, but The Young Turks the latest to board the MAGA train, medias transformation into Trump PR continues

Leftist "The Young Turks" co-host and longtime anti-Trumper Cenk Uygur admitted that President-elect Donald Trump’s victory earlier this month brings him "optimism."

Uygur, who routinely railed against Trump for years on his progressive online talk show, posted to his X account on Friday that he had accepted Trump’s win because it meant that "the establishment" had been defeated.

"I've been trying to figure out why I'm more optimistic now than I was before the election, even though I was so against the guy who won. I know now. MAGA is not my mortal enemy (and neither is the extreme left). My mortal enemy is the establishment. And they have been defeated!" he wrote.

It feels like what happened to Taibbi/Greenwald is writ large across independent media. Right wing media supports Trump. Centrist media says both sides are crazy, so it makes sense to support Trump. Left wing media says both parties are the same but Trump is at least anti-establishment, which is actually the most important thing. And corporate media is flying down to mar-a-largo to smooth things over

If you cant beat them...

"I've been trying to figure out why I'm more optimistic now than I was before the election, even though I was so against the guy who won. I know now. MAGA is not my mortal enemy (and neither is the extreme left). My mortal enemy is the establishment. And they have been defeated!" he wrote.

Really though I just think this is bullshit "I wasn't wrong, I'm not a loser" cope from a guy I've never had any respect for and who for all his protestations to the contrary has clearly craved becoming part of the pundit class, but for the left, for the $$$ and for his ego.

TYT codes centrist liberal rather than left, right? Certainly I've never heard anything but scorn about them in the leftist spaces I visit...

I guess by "for the left" I mean more "not explicitly right-wing", though his "my mortal enemy is the establishment" stance doesn't feel very centrist

Yeah no it's a turn for sure but it's a turn to maga from the center imo.