US Politics, August 2024 -- "Unburdened By a Has-Been"

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"oh yeah well Trump is going to Montana for rally"

its gonna be Unperson and a cow surrounded by Secret Service snipers.

scott seward, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:43 (one year ago)

"Is it a dirty word? I thought that the main reason Democrats had started to embrace "progressive" was because Republicans had turned *liberal* into a dirty word."

It totally is for Repubs. For them it is code for ultra-left wing people who want to give illegal rapists and murderers drivers licenses and voting rights so that they can drive to your house and kill you and then vote for Hannibal Lecter.

scott seward, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:45 (one year ago)

lol @ that GOP tweet literally just throwing out a good-ass Walz quote and thinking it's a slam dunk, these mutants are so far removed from normal human life it's insane

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:47 (one year ago)

show me the win column

for starters, ACA, Dodd-Frank, American Recovery & Reinvestment Act, COVID stimulus, IRA. all with the least cooperative Republicans in Congress any of us have ever seen. I know nobody wants to hear that - like maybe if we'd been more bold, we could have accomplished more! I mean, that could even be true, it would still be true that passing those bills was hard and she did it.

default damager (lukas), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:48 (one year ago)

One of the Trumpy lines of attack is "Dem rally attendance is artificially inflated because they have entertainers; we don't need that." Frequently with the added barb that the entertainers in question are twerking degenerates and/or rappers with their filth flarn filth.

I remember the GOP dismissing an early 2008 Obama rally because they said most people had come to see the Decemberists. The Decemberists! Ah yes, so massively popular. There was no enthusiasm for Obama. It was just that people love sea shanties.

cubing the gleam (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:48 (one year ago)

yeah, they have to trick people into showing up at their rallies

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:51 (one year ago)

ha ha they weren't even billed as the Decembrists, just the names of the band members

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:52 (one year ago)

How many times has the Trump got cease & desist letters from artists commanding them to stop playing their songs

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:54 (one year ago)

there's a whole thread about it!

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:54 (one year ago)

A fun read, if not already linked:

https://www.salon.com/2024/08/07/bringing-back-the-joy-kamala-harris-rally-blows-away-jd-vances-weird-appearance-across-town/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:55 (one year ago)

harris/walz rally in wisconsin looks PACKED. i'm like a deadhead for these things now.

― scott seward, Wednesday, August 7, 2024 12:03 PM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

they just scheduled a rally at the Olde Renaissance Faire Grounds

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:00 (one year ago)

for starters, ACA, Dodd-Frank, American Recovery & Reinvestment Act, COVID stimulus, IRA. all with the least cooperative Republicans in Congress any of us have ever seen. I know nobody wants to hear that - like maybe if we'd been more bold, we could have accomplished more! I mean, that could even be true, it would still be true that passing those bills was hard and she did it.

― default damager (lukas), Wednesday, August 7, 2024 1:48 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i mean this is just not the stuff of legends

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:01 (one year ago)

xpost I hope they appear in full RenFest gear.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:01 (one year ago)

re: ads, i have seen kamala's ad 4000 times during the olympics and haven't seen anything from trump. nb, i live in ny, so idk why she's bothering with any ads here, but i guess it means she has money to burn

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:02 (one year ago)

Thanks, Ned... great writing on the yesterday's Vance rally:

One upside to the Vance event: There was no line to use the ladies' room. Sure, there were women in attendance, but the gender ratio felt like the guest list on Joe Rogan's podcast. There was one kind of diversity in this small but weirdly intense crowd. Every type of white man that gets a hasty "swipe left" on his dating profile was in attendance: 'Roided out dudes with bad tribal tattoos. Older men radiating "bitter divorce" energy. Men with enormous beards that have never known the touch of a trimmer. Skinny fascists wearing expensive suits, despite the oppressive heat. Glowering loners staring at the two women under 40 like cats watching birds out a window.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:03 (one year ago)

these mutants are so far removed from normal human life it's insane

it's tempting to think so, but normal doesn't mean good or sane, only what you are most likely to see and hear from the people around you. ask z_tbd about what's accepted as normal among the people he grew up with and he may tell you that christian-nationalism weirdness is accepted as normal, because God is never wrong, even when he makes demands that seem to cause suffering among His believers, while socialism is just godless humanism. normal is bigger than reality because we cut and shape reality to fit inside the frame.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:03 (one year ago)

i mean this is just not the stuff of legends

Waiting for your account of more ambitious legislation that enough Republicans would have voted for.

default damager (lukas), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:05 (one year ago)

i mean this is just not the stuff of legends

nowhere in human history does ordinary legislative politics deliver "the stuff of legends". it's always sausages and more sausages.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:06 (one year ago)

see the problem with being a nancy pelosi fan is you have to first convince yourself nothing is possible

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:07 (one year ago)

the problem with thinking outside the box is that it leaves out all the hard parts and darts straight to the happy ending

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:09 (one year ago)

Not everyone supported those bills, but everyone one of them started a legislature

cubing the gleam (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:11 (one year ago)

I'm sorry that Nancy Pelosi didn't buy you a pony

default damager (lukas), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:15 (one year ago)

yes everyone wants a pony except for you the clear eye pragmatist who just happens to be using an insult employed exclusively by big dummies

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:16 (one year ago)

guys, guys

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:21 (one year ago)

brain genius weighs in

Not great news if you had concerns about Democrats' VP decision-making process.https://t.co/FGRQl5Ohh1

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) August 7, 2024

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:23 (one year ago)

So sad:

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/story/trump-fundraiser-hamptons

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:24 (one year ago)

that Bulwark story is such bullshit.. 'yeah we planned it this way all along'

they're really bummed about Walz and are trying to pretend otherwise

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:27 (one year ago)

hey! we pragmatists want ponies, too. but only the metaphorical kind, not the real kind that won't fit into a two bedroom apartment and take a dump anywhere they feel like. those non-metaphorical ponies are too impractical for most of us. but we like them as an idea.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:30 (one year ago)

forget a pony full size horse or bust

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:35 (one year ago)

bayesian nate silver sure does like having his priors confirmed

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:38 (one year ago)

COVID stimulus

Yeah, Nancy was really on the ball there

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/30/business/economy/coronavirus-economic-stimulus-taxes.html

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:39 (one year ago)

why does j.d. vance use the present tense when he says "think about families, like mine, that can't afford groceries..."

he means his old hillbilly family but its seems weird if you don't know about his old hillbilly family.

he's talking now in front of these people who look like they need to get back to work...

scott seward, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:44 (one year ago)

Obamacare and Dodd-Frank were passed when they had a 50 seat majorities in the House IIRC. They were tight votes because of Democrats.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:45 (one year ago)

xp why doesn't he buy his hillbilly families some groceries, then?

Or just a Walmart gift card.. he has plenty of money, stingy MF

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:46 (one year ago)

If you teach a hillbilly to fish...

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:50 (one year ago)

he said that being called weird by the dems is a badge of honor.

scott seward, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:53 (one year ago)

he just lied about everything. everything he said was not true. cnn is actually spending a lot of time fact-checking. there is so much to fact-check.

scott seward, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:54 (one year ago)

he said that tim walz told people to burn down the city. he is a crazy liar in public.

scott seward, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:55 (one year ago)

firehose of lies, like his boss
it's all they have ever had

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:56 (one year ago)

Walz and Harris talking to Girl Scouts (out of uniform) in Wisconsin:

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:qrllvid7s54k4hnwtqxwetrf/bafkreighjyryfxexik6cjkgbkbqm3bctphokrcfrzxl2ninva676t6ywhi@jpeg

Vance standing in front of Harris's plane to talk to reporters, also in Wisconsin:

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:izxpomdyri45gzhppiiyattq/bafkreic3ww67qyom7wm2godkrbksz73q7e7pqzgpezrhyb6l7hs5eoxcli@jpeg

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 18:59 (one year ago)

it's crazy (or rather normal) that Harris & Walz are out on the stump together, while Vance is the lonely proxy for Trump playing to half-filled rooms

once Trump's ear is all better, though, WATCH OUT

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 19:00 (one year ago)

I can believe the GOP tried to stoke division between leftists and Dem centrists re: Shapiro, but I don't believe they did that in hopes that Walz would be the pick. Seems more likely they assumed Shapiro would be the pick and wanted to sow chaos

c u (crüt), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 19:10 (one year ago)

especially since they seem to have no plan for dealing with Walz

c u (crüt), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 19:12 (one year ago)

Can’t wait for the “Walz across Texas” campaign

It was on a accident (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 19:15 (one year ago)

And the Tennessee Walz

It was on a accident (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 19:16 (one year ago)

Walz talking to 30,000 in Eau Claire right now

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 19:16 (one year ago)

Seems more likely they assumed Shapiro would be the pick and wanted to sow chaos

this seems right

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 19:17 (one year ago)

Strike the suggestions above — the GOP would fire back with “Walz in A Minor” paedo smears

It was on a accident (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 19:18 (one year ago)

Walz talking to 30,000 in Eau Claire right now

"Get off the stage! We're here for Bon Iver!"

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 19:18 (one year ago)

Donald Trump “has no notion of service because he’s too busy servicing himself”

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 7 August 2024 19:20 (one year ago)


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