US Politics, August 2024 -- "Unburdened By a Has-Been"

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When you’ve lost Kyle…

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 2 August 2024 15:12 (one year ago)

“We’re not weird people,” Trump added. “We’re we’re actually just the opposite. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-jd-vance-weird-remarks-1235072789/

lag∞n, Friday, 2 August 2024 15:36 (one year ago)

As someone who suffered through a Low set once, part of me would love to see a bunch of politicians and rich assholes punished in that way, but another part of me just isn't that mean-spirited.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, August 2, 2024 6:08 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

As if we didn't need more proof that you are an irascible prick

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 2 August 2024 15:38 (one year ago)

man I never knew any of this crazy stuff about Eagleton! wild times back in '72.

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 2 August 2024 15:47 (one year ago)

Like I'm absolutely sure it's been pointed out a million times by now but the GOP is basically just wall-to-wall 'im not mad. please dont put in the newspaper that i got mad.' rn and it's truly astonishing and beautiful to behold

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 August 2024 15:48 (one year ago)

xp "crazy" prob not the best word choice there, sorry

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 2 August 2024 15:48 (one year ago)

once youre in the blender its hard to get out xp

lag∞n, Friday, 2 August 2024 15:49 (one year ago)

If Alan Lichtman added "Most times the ticket has seen Alan Sparhawk musical projects perform live", Kamala selecting Walz would win the 'key', since I've seen TW at 2 Dem/DFL events featuring Retribution Gospel Choir and Black-Eyed Snakes, one interestingly was a fundraiser for Bernie (not sure he was making an endorsement)

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Friday, 2 August 2024 15:54 (one year ago)

So many things didn’t happen that would have prolonged the shooting story:

The shooter didn’t turn out to be a liberal
The Dems didn’t react with glee
Trump didn’t pivot to being a unifier
The shooting story didn’t kill the movement to get Biden to step aside

― Jersey Devil Vance (President Keyes), Friday, 2 August 2024 14:00 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think you uh missed out on the actual biggest thing that didn't happen

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Friday, 2 August 2024 15:54 (one year ago)

"As if we didn't need more proof that you are an irascible prick"

tell me you wouldn't lose your shit if someone called you a prick on here. LET'S BE CIVIL, PEOPLE.

scott seward, Friday, 2 August 2024 16:00 (one year ago)

lol dmac

symsymsym, Friday, 2 August 2024 16:04 (one year ago)

tell me you wouldn't lose your shit if someone called you a prick on here. LET'S BE CIVIL, PEOPLE.

― scott seward, Friday, August 2, 2024 9:00 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

How about you mind you own business.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:10 (one year ago)

you are my business and you're being a dick.

scott seward, Friday, 2 August 2024 16:11 (one year ago)

Posts here are everyone's business! While your sentiments wrt Low were OTM, the name calling is rough to see here.

octobeard, Friday, 2 August 2024 16:12 (one year ago)

I like all of you (even the annoying ones), but I do not like Low one bit (shrugs)

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:12 (one year ago)

i saw low open for swans in the 90s and it was kinda fun to see sad aggro swansfan faces as one slow drip low tune after another poured out of the speakers like morose honey. i thought they were tops.

scott seward, Friday, 2 August 2024 16:16 (one year ago)

it’s like ilm exists for low parades and brawls

well below the otm mendoza line (Hunt3r), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:16 (one year ago)

The only time I ever saw Low play was at a private view at Walker Art Center, and they fit the event and the space very well.

guillotine vogue (suzy), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:20 (one year ago)

I'll concede that it's possible that Low's mopey, boring music could be quite affecting in a small club packed with their morose devotees. But opening for Radiohead in an arena, standing perfectly still under a single hanging light bulb, they suuuuucked.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:21 (one year ago)

mopey music at a radiohead concert??

lag∞n, Friday, 2 August 2024 16:23 (one year ago)

I would say for the last 20 years that hasn't really been their thing, they'd turned into quite the rock band and then after that a really wildly experimental band but obviously they are absolutely not for everyone. Lol xp

omar little, Friday, 2 August 2024 16:23 (one year ago)

I feel bad for you, unperson.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:25 (one year ago)

It's clear that you don't actually care for anything beautiful.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:25 (one year ago)

When table goes Low, unperson goes High on Fire

jaymc, Friday, 2 August 2024 16:27 (one year ago)

I like High on Fire, I've seen them live a few times.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:29 (one year ago)

Now I'm imagining Afroman and Sparhawk collaborating on "Because I Got Low"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:31 (one year ago)

ok that I would listen to

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:32 (one year ago)

i also don't like low, because they're mormon and have a messiah complex.

When table goes Low, unperson goes High on Fire

― jaymc, Friday, August 2, 2024 5:27 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

hell yeah my favorite band, like the complete opposite of low

he/him hoo-hah (map), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:33 (one year ago)

i like that about them but admittedly have not had to deal w the lds

lag∞n, Friday, 2 August 2024 16:35 (one year ago)

It's fine, Low are the best band of the past three decades, and all the haters are RONG

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:37 (one year ago)

Can I just say how wonderful it is that we've gone from 'the country is definitely over' to discussion of the merits of the band Low within the space of really not that many days at all

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:38 (one year ago)

it's Lowver

c u (crüt), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:41 (one year ago)

when they play Low, we go to sleep

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:44 (one year ago)

we're low back

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:54 (one year ago)

I got my dad a copy of Ones and Sixes for his birthday, he really loved it

He also really likes Algiers

laughter is the best weapon (DJP), Friday, 2 August 2024 16:55 (one year ago)

Up now on Rolling Stone's site:

Trump’s Racist Attacks on Kamala Harris Are Part of a Larger, Unhinged Plan
Team Trump believes questioning Harris’ racial identity is smart politics — and is behind him “100 percent,” says a person close to Trump

Donald Trump’s comments on Wednesday questioning whether Vice President Kamala Harris is Black were not an off-the-cuff expression of racism, but part of a broader campaign strategy that Trump and many of his key lieutenants plan to make a heavy focus of their final three-month sprint to retake the White House.

Asked on Wednesday about Republicans accusing Harris of being a “DEI hire” or “DEI candidate,” Trump responded by questioning Harris’ racial identity. “She was always of Indian heritage, and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn’t know she was Black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn Black,” he said, adding: “She made a turn, and she became a Black person, and I think somebody should look into that.”

As unhinged as this sounds — and is — Team Trump believes this is a politically smart message, according to three people on and close to the 2024 Trump-Vance campaign. In their private conversations, Trump and some of his closest advisers appear to believe that leveling this attack as loudly as they could help sell the idea that Harris is a “phony” in the minds of independent voters. Trump believes he wins battles when he gets to define the messaging terrain and have Democrats and his media nemeses fight him on his terms (hence, Trump’s deep annoyance at Harris and Democrats’ relentless drive to call him, J.D. Vance, and other conservative leaders “weird”). So, Trump and his allies have been reveling in this line of racial-identity sniping, hoping to bait Democratic leaders into a mud fight.

Some Trump advisers have even argued — including long before Trump began this Harris-isn’t-Black crusade — that painting Harris as inauthentically Black could potentially resonate with certain Black voters, particularly disaffected, young men — who are already skeptical of Harris and President Joe Biden.

The sources stressed that Trump’s comments were not — as has been the case numerous times in his campaigns and during his administration — a situation in which the former president has gone rogue on the stump and indulged his own lack of political impulse control. (These sources in the past have generally had no trouble privately admitting it when that has been the case.) Rather, this is a case of Trump and an array of his aides and influential allies settling on a race-baiting strategy that they are, for the time being at least, convinced will work out well for them in this presidential election.

“It’s not by accident; it’s intentional. We’re behind the [former] president, 100 percent,” a person close to Trump tells Rolling Stone.

In that sense, it is similar to the relatively new, extreme Republican Party-wide policy aim of bombing or invading Mexico. What sounds like an unhinged, errant Trump thought is a mainstream conservative view and plan of action.

The line of attack, of course, has its share of critics among the conservative elite. As Politico reported last month, House Republican leadership practically begged their own rank and file during a private meeting to avoid talking about Harris’ race. Those entreaties clearly aren’t sticking.

On Thursday, Vance — the Ohio senator who Trump tapped for his 2024 vice-presidential slot — swooped in to further buttress the Team Trump tactic. “She is everything to everybody, and she pretends to be somebody different depending on which audience she is in front of,” Vance told CNN. “I think it’s totally reasonable for the president to call that out, and that’s all he did,” Vance said.”

The latest round of Trumpian gutter politics appears to be motivated by a sudden sense of urgency within the upper echelons of MAGAworld — a sense that did not exist just weeks ago, when Republicans thought Trump was cruising to a landslide against Biden, before he bowed out of the 2024 race and endorsed Harris. According to two sources familiar with the matter, behind closed doors, Trump has expressed bewilderment — or genuine surprise even — at Harris’ uptick in the polls, her latest fundraising hauls, and the ease with which her party rallied to her, as opposed to devolving into a disastrous intra-party power struggle ahead of the 2024 Democratic National Convention in Chicago. (Indeed, almost immediately after Biden dropped out, close allies and trusted associates to Trump started directly warning him not to underestimate Harris as a general election rival.)

Harris responded to racist Trump’s comments Wednesday evening at an event in Houston. “It was the same old show: the divisiveness, and the disrespect,” she said. “And let me just say the American people deserve better.”

Trump delivered his broadside against Harris, questioning her racial identity, during a remarkably hostile Q&A before the National Association of Black Journalists convention. It soon became apparent that this was not just Trump being himself, but a coordinated campaign message.

The former president posted a video on Truth Social of Harris cooking with the actress Mindy Kaling, and talking about her South Asian heritage. He wrote: “Crazy Kamala is saying she’s Indian, not Black. This is a big deal. Stone cold phony. She uses everybody, including her racial identity!”

Before Trump arrived at a campaign rally in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, a Business Insider headline was projected on screen at the event that read: “California’s Kamala Harris becomes first Indian-American U.S. senator.”

Trump did not specifically repeat his attack on Harris at the rally, though his legal spokeswoman and lawyer Alina Habba certainly tried. “Unlike you, Kamala, I know who my roots are,” she said, stumbling over her words. “I know where I come from.”

In a throwback to Trump’s incessant demand to see President Barack Obama’s birth certificate, far-right activist Laura Loomer posted an apparent copy of Harris’ birth certificate online, writing that the document “proves she is NOT BLACK.”

The attack on Harris has been bubbling up in pro-Trump circles for years. Ali Alexander, the far-right Trump supporter who organized the “Stop the Steal” rally that preceded the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol, tweeted in 2019: “Kamala Harris is implying she is descended from American Black Slaves. She’s not. She comes from Jamaican Slave Owners. That’s fine. She’s not an American Black. Period.”

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 2 August 2024 17:00 (one year ago)

when they play Low, we play Sleep

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 August 2024 17:01 (one year ago)

This will end well, I’m sure

laughter is the best weapon (DJP), Friday, 2 August 2024 17:03 (one year ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HVejEB5uVk

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 2 August 2024 17:04 (one year ago)

Kamala has to deal with these attacks like obamadirtofftheshoulder.gif and move on

omar little, Friday, 2 August 2024 17:06 (one year ago)

isn't there a completely different message board to discuss the merits of Low?

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 2 August 2024 17:11 (one year ago)

Some Trump advisers have even argued — including long before Trump began this Harris-isn’t-Black crusade — that painting Harris as inauthentically Black could potentially resonate with certain Black voters, particularly disaffected, young men — who are already skeptical of Harris and President Joe Biden.

harris already polling at obama numbers with black voters, the problem with appealing to disaffected people is you dont actually have much credibility with them theyre just disaffected

lag∞n, Friday, 2 August 2024 17:12 (one year ago)

ah, the old racism dial

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 2 August 2024 17:14 (one year ago)

"this one goes to eleven"

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 2 August 2024 17:14 (one year ago)

I only got into Low about five years ago and now I'm a fan. Didn't know about the LDS roots!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 August 2024 17:16 (one year ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQiSz-gD75s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC79_QRqCEU

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 2 August 2024 17:18 (one year ago)

The original lineup of Low quite literally stayed on my grad dorm living room floor back in 1994 after a show and we had Bob's Big Boy for breakfast the day after. Friendly, quiet, good people, and I will always honor Mimi's memory.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 August 2024 17:23 (one year ago)

The former president posted a video on Truth Social of Harris cooking with the actress Mindy Kaling, and talking about her South Asian heritage.

I'm sure any fan of the American Office finds this extremely amusing, immediately conjuring up images of Ryan the Intern and "WUPHF.com!"

clemenza, Friday, 2 August 2024 17:32 (one year ago)

Sorry if this has already been shared

https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-nomination-dnc-463d0b8095f2ca3526b3af3a2f44c3ca

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 2 August 2024 17:33 (one year ago)

in that video that trump posted kamala LITERALLY says that she is half Indian.

scott seward, Friday, 2 August 2024 17:35 (one year ago)


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