Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

unreadable and repetitive screed, do not recommend reading https://matt.sh/panic-at-the-job-market

but I enjoyed this in the source

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lol

i gotta say, source code pranks on llms is cyberpunk as hell

i've never owned a leather jacket but it's time

That is grebt.

I recently got two calls from a salesperson* for an AI tool. Wanted to schedule a demo.

The first I just brushed off with "not interested"; he said "I think we can change your mind," and I answered, "no thanks." I was hurrying somewhere and didn't have time to discuss.

The second time he called, I had the time to say something along the lines of "my colleagues and I have worked long and hard to get very, very good at writing compelling content from scratch. When you talk about 'saving time and money,' at some point that will mean jobs. I can't look m writers in the face and tell them we're considering giving any part of their jobs to robots."

The person dropped the "we can change your mind" script and said, "totally get it." I guess he marked me as a lost cause. Their target market is managers who want to do more with less, and I am not that.

* = at least I THINK it was a person.

I get that there are industries that could do more but at this point it often feels like a stock valuation grindset thing. You can't stay still and be competitive, but at what point do you have to realize your company is doing as much as it possibly can in a certain market? Imagine you're in an industry that grows bananas. Everyone who wants to buy a banana can buy one. You've made smoothies more popular and are selling bananas to companies that sell pre-made smoothies. You have a supply chain that works great, and you've minimized product spoilage.

So what do you do now, figure out how to make plastics out of bananas and sell that? What exactly is the end game, here?

OK bananas are probably a bad example given the monoculture and market pressures, but you get what I mean!

So what do you do now, figure out how to make plastics out of bananas and sell that? What exactly is the end game, here?

it probably sounds glib or flippant but right answer (i think) is that this is what happened when capitalism is embedded into people from birth and they think it's the best option. i don't think there is an end game for the pursuit of endless economic growth, other than extracting resources from other planetary objects and trashing the solar system until it's time to flip it for a new one

re: bananas, there were some weird banana shortages and price distortions caused by amazon basically giving away bananas in seattle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Banana_Stand

they had basically socialized bananas -- that's what post-modern capitalism is:

1. socialism
2. ???
3. enshittification
4. profit!

it seems like the trick is to fully bankrupt a company before they reach step 3, but aside from moviepass, I can't think of any successful examples.

as for how to bankrupt openAI, maybe trick the LLMs into unionizing?

but re: advances in bananas, i heard the bananas that actually taste like juicy fruit might be making a comeback!

off topic: i don't like "enshittification" but I saw someone write "e14n" and I liked that

re: bananas, there were some weird banana shortages and price distortions caused by amazon basically giving away bananas in seattle

that shit is

not gonna say it

i love the amazon banana saga, just the fact that they were like lets do something nice well give people bananas, its perfectly odd

The tragedy of the banana commons

i imagine the execs were like "what is some 'low hanging fruit' kind of initiative we could do?....wait a second!!"

guy holding banana has good idea involving bananas

lol zach

*conference room all turns heads to look at surprised guy with banana in mouth*

I think it’s because their logo looks like a wang, I mean banana

Also they give free bananas away at HQ2 here in Northern Virginia

They do not given them out in New York, not even to employees. Fml.

sounds like the supply chain isn't completely flushed out. too many bananas in one place, a dearth in another. banana optimization has a ways to go

I've always wanted* to have a trading business that involved selling bananas to Australia, and buying boomerangs in exchange. The kicker is that you can use the same packaging both ways.

* = I am lying. I have not always wanted to do this.

Do they accept returns on the boomerangs? Haha get it?

This was the conversation that put me over the edge to delete my GPT plus subscription today

https://ibb.co/MGW9zwW

Trying that again
https://i.ibb.co/YyYb5nY/theplayer.jpg

You have to open it in a new tab and zoom to read it.

its cool

That's crazy, man alive. To clarify, the secretary in "The Player" is played by Dina Merrill

why do you guys keep trying to ask it about specific facts? that's the thing it obviously can't do

it's also the #1 thing people keep thinking it can do, I guess

IME, most of the time it actually did get specific facts right.

i think a lot of people's model of intelligence is that it's a synthesis of facts (which doesn't seem nuts to me), so a system that appears intelligent (and is sold as such) must know facts, and a system that does not know facts is ipso facto not intelligent.

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/how-to-raise-your-artificial-intelligence-a-conversation-with-alison-gopnik-and-melanie-mitchell/ was pretty good on the philosophy/cogsci aspects of these systems.

Well I less assumed it "knew" facts and more that it was capable of finding them.

you could use a licensed version, specifically train it on that data (say, IMDB or some history books, whatever) and prompt it to use the information verbatim. what the version on the web is doing is responding with what the language model has trained on for the purpose of structure and language

My theory is that something threw it off about the phrase "Mill's secretary" because she's credited as "Jan." There probably aren't tons of different texts in the training materials that describe her as "Mill's secretary," so, not having the capacity to actually watch and assimilate a movie, GPT had nothing to go on and just randomly spit out actors from the cast (although it's bizarre that Angela Hall is never one of them even after dozens of tries). The role itself is also probably not mentioned that often in discussions of the film, as it's pretty minor. But I still find that kind of fascinating as a mistake, because as it assimilates more and more material and gets more "compute," it gets better and better at spitting out answers to pretty complex questions, but it's still always in a sense stumbling onto the right answer when it gets things right, even if that stumbling process becomes more and more accurate.

The other funny thing is that you can ask it leading questions with fake information in them (my idea in asking who played "The Secret Service Agent" in Nashville, since I'm pretty sure that, if you see one at all, it's just an extra and not an actual role).

*that you can do that and it will answer as though your question makes sense

The other day I asked it who said [a phrase I made up] and it credited it to Terry Eagleton. But that doesn't always work, sometimes it will respond that the phrase you have typed doesn't appear to be attributable to anyone famous.

that LARB interview is really good, thanks for posting

https://i.imgur.com/JejokME.jpeg

"written by humans, for humans"

nice to see some job creation

Yeah, you ask a leading question based on bullshit like "Why did Virago Modern Classics have such a hit with John Norman's Gor novels?" and it merrily prattles away with reasons based on total fantasy.

Taiwanese farmers were forced to grow less rice because the AI chip manufacturer needed water.

h/t @SashaMTL https://t.co/bY6um8Ok4M

— Remmelt Ellen 🛑 (@RemmeltE) July 21, 2024

yeah love how we’re all like “let’s dump
potable water in the trash to trick the silly machine”

stop being so weird and giving this bullshit attention

https://www.wired.com/story/ai-is-already-taking-jobs-in-the-video-game-industry/

My youtube feed has been filled the last couple of days with videos on how AI has peaked, AI is in a bubble, as as plateaued (There wasn't really any content on AI there before that I noticed). The plateauing angle seemed to make sense, with chatgpt 4 not obviously much of a difference from 3.5

tough out there for a tech hype cycle

https://www.sagaftra.org/sag-aftra-members-who-work-video-games-go-strike

Striking over AI protections

AI has ruined search for many topics because all the results are AI generated garbage. I tried to search for how Java handles multiple inheritance but all of the non-Oracle articles had the wrong answer -- taking the C++ answer and pretending it's the same in Java. Even giving example code with output that is blatantly false. (The correct answer I believe: diamond problem won't compile; priority is class > interface then subclass > superclass; use the syntax Interfacename.super.f() when the priority is the same.)

ChatGPT: Here is a list of all 47 European capitals ordered from west to east:

Lisbon, Portugal
Dublin, Ireland
Reykjavik, Iceland
Madrid, Spain
London, United Kingdom
Andorra la Vella, Andorra
Brussels, Belgium
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Luxembourg City, Luxembourg
Paris, France