US Politics, July 2024 - "Will you just drop out, man?"

Republicans have this weird habit of cosplaying as lefties, stealing their rhetoric and vernacular whenever it suits them

― rick beato meato manifesto (Neanderthal)

almost like leftist ideas are actually popular, despite the democrats' assurances that nobody actually believes any of that leftist claptrap

Trans: "Look over there! Big scary thing! No, don't look it's too scary!"

― Mark G

you had me confused for a sec lol

Me too

Well, if this whole thing has rid the world of Tenacious D, then it's all been worth it.

fp'd

sorry, never found Tenacious D funny either

amazing that the same people who remain friends with toxic Trump supporters because "they're really a good person deep down" are the ones who are zero tolerance about Trump shooting jokes.

I posted a joke about it 5 minutes after it happened, fuck him, Kyle Gass otm

Whoops. Seems like RFK Jr.'s son posted and has since deleted video of a call between RFK Jr. and Trump after the shooting. In the video Trump repeats his old (false) claims about childhood vaccines, suggesting the vaccine schedule causes injuries in babies. https://t.co/K4RWXfoudS pic.twitter.com/KZcSBVtxWE

— Brandy Zadrozny (@BrandyZadrozny) July 16, 2024

Trump rambling about vaccines to RFK Jr.

Normal stuff, really, this is fine

Trump in full-on Grandpa Simpson mode there

DNC & Biden campaign trying to act early way before Dem convention

I've actually heard from one source that the plan is for a week EARLIER than this. Starting July 22 (next Monday) and ending July 29.
This will be confirmed this Friday with a Rules Committee vote. https://t.co/47eAgjNuur

— David Dayen (@ddayen) July 16, 2024

Online vote of delegates to vote to nominate Biden

Online vote of delegates to vote to nominate Biden

― curmudgeon

woah, i feel like they're jumping the gun on that a little bit, shouldn't they have a vote on whether to do that first?

my understanding is that the order of operations affects what happens when a candidate bows out, and having the nomination in place before they abdicate makes it a different ballgame

as in, it might not just be beneficial for Biden, it might allow the party to easily replace him without it becoming a chaotic open convention

Nate… you can call me a lot of things but a liar is definitely not one of them.

I know you THINK you know every thing but class is now truly in session.

Pull up a chair:

* The DNC started this process in May in response to the OH Secretary of State stating that our… https://t.co/TWOB46Wmas

— Jaime Harrison (@harrisonjaime) July 16, 2024

tl dr: it's about Ohio law, I guess.

.@HawleyMO is 100% on point.https://t.co/8qicWLhtGf

— Sean M. O'Brien (@TeamsterSOB) July 16, 2024

the order of operations affects what happens

BEDMAS: bunker-mentality, evasiveness, denial, meetings, acceptance, step-aside.

#New General Election Poll

🔴 Trump 46% (+1)
🔵 Biden 45%

Poll before Trump shooting was Trump +2

Morning Consult #C - 2045 RV - 7/15

— Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) July 16, 2024

other polls show Trump winning Virginia so idek

smart people are more inclined to vote for someone who isn't being constantly shot at

I prefer the candidates who don’t get shot

looks like you can still be convicted of corruption in this country

*SENATOR BOB MENENDEZ CONVICTED BY JURY AT CORRUPTION TRIAL

— Joe Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) July 16, 2024

fuck josh hawley, and fuck sean o'brien

that oughtta hold that teamster SOB

lol apparently the Trump campaign thinks Vance will appeal to suburban women 'cause his life was in the moving pictures. That's how little they think of women.

Fuck Gaspar Gomez and fuck the Diaz Brothers

Teamsters holding up their reputation as the most corrupt union. The Trump Admin will do to them what Reagan did to the Air Traffic Controllers Union (who endorsed Reagan!)

looks like you can still be convicted of corruption in this country

If you're a Democrat, sure.

O’Brien gives us the roadmap to go even further in 2025. And we should. I have stood on the picket line with the UAW and the Teamsters—all Republicans should do it. I voted to stop Amazon’s labor exploitation, give more sick days to rail workers, and worked across the aisle to limit bank-executive pay. Republicans can begin there. But if given power, we should embrace even more. Let’s cap credit-card interest rates, take the fight to Big Pharma, end exploitative forced labor, and rid politics of corporate money once and for all.

O'Brien is a rube if he thinks Josh Hawley, the Republican Party, and their donors are going to do any of these things.

The Democratic Party's loosening and then shunning unions beginning in the Carter years and continuing through the heady days of Clinton's DLC is the most mortal sin it's committed: a full renunciation of the New Deal.

But Biden's support for unions has been imo one of his top three strengths. I joined our faculty union in February and one of the first things their leftist comm chair told me was that "thanks to this NLRB" we're in the strongest negotiating position in years.

Republicans (pretend) adopting the Paul Wellstone platform is a bizarre turn in politics

and rid politics of corporate money once and for all

ha! I just spit tea all over my lap

never forget

https://i.imgur.com/P6SDBIM.jpg

lol apparently the Trump campaign thinks Vance will appeal to suburban women 'cause his life was in the moving pictures. That's how little they think of women.

― Bad Bairns (Boring, Maryland)

my mom was really into that book. i mean she's not gonna vote for trump but she really was into that book.

most people _aren't really politically informed_ and if there's a popular motion picture about your vice presidential candidate, that's going to _help_. if someone looks at him and is like "oh, that's the hillbilly elegy guy! i loved that book/movie/whatever", that doesn't make that person _stupid_.

but also i don't know anybody whose decision on who to vote for has been changed by who they pick as their vice presidential candidate. i could be wrong on this, but the feeling i get is that it's not as important as the media makes it out to be.

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also i know it's the angle but that dude's chest gives me real "six months on estrogen" vibes

Probably the first time we've had a Veep pick with a movie made about them since Al Gore's "Love Story"

I know Republicans who dropped McCain after he picked Palin. That's all I got.

A statistically significant number of Republican voters will hate Vance once they discover he has a non-white wife. That won't stop them from voting for Trump, though.

CNBC is in mourning over the JD Vance pick. Here's an epic rant by Joe Kernen at conservative populist @oren_cass. pic.twitter.com/AYMXqHyq5X

— Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller) July 16, 2024

Some of them are already working on new forms of race science to cover that. She's got a very white skull shape etc.

I know Republicans who dropped McCain after he picked Palin. That's all I got.

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

yeah it's hard to say for sure because veep picks are _so far out_ from the election

i mean that was before "joe the plumber", right? and then there was "joe the plumber" but what i remember most - as someone who was an obama mark from the beginning - was watching mccain flail around desperately when the housing market crashed. and i decided "oh, 'maverick' means that he has no fucking idea what he's doing and is making it up as he goes along, maybe that is not a good thing".

palin probably made _some_ difference. so much happens in a campaign, though. trump running against an empty suit probably makes more difference than vance.

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funny thought, you know what all this talk about biden reminds me of? the way people talked about nixon in july 1974. i mean i wasn't around for that, of course, but i'm kind of a history nerd and i love primary sources. and there was all this _negotiation_, under what conditions will nixon step down. there was this feeling of inevitability, that whatever happened, after the smoking gun tape came out, nixon was toast.

maybe biden isn't toast. history, you know, a lot of different things happen. i just get a very nixon-july-74 _vibe_ from him.

Alfred, my grandma who voted republican all her life voted for Obama in '08 because she thought Sarah Palin was "silly" (the worst thing she could say about someone) and was reassured of her inclination to Obama by his pick of Biden. One data point, I know.

Palin basically unlocked the doors that Trump barged through

yep

hard to forget Trump fuckin hosted SNL, like.....

Palin basically unlocked the doors that Trump barged through

With an assist to Gingrich in 2012.

did any other VPs have a porno made based on their likeness

just Mondale iirc

Elbridge Gerry

looks like you can still be convicted of corruption in this country

If you're a Democrat, sure.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, July 16, 2024 12:10 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

well, yeah. wonder if being a convicted felon will convince him to resign from the senate

“We need to understand what happened because clearly mistakes were made,” Vance told Fox News. “The Secret Service ran up there. They put their bodies over, and they reacted quickly. That’s not what worries me. What worries me is why was there a shooter 150 yards from the president of the United States?”