US Politics, July 2024 - "Will you just drop out, man?"

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Jersey Devil Vance (President Keyes), Monday, 15 July 2024 19:45 (one year ago)

So I guess Vance will just carry a milk crate around with him from now on, in case he's required to be photographed beside Trump.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSjX1embIAAzmFf.jpg

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 15 July 2024 19:46 (one year ago)

P to V

iirc, this is exactly the kind of behavior Trump had to pay for and led to the only consequences he's ever seen!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 15 July 2024 19:48 (one year ago)

People are not going to be happy when they read what Vance wrote about Reagan.

Jersey Devil Vance (President Keyes), Monday, 15 July 2024 19:50 (one year ago)

https://robertgavora.cdn.bibliopolis.com/pictures/39208.jpg?auto=webp&v=1545156282

Jersey Devil Vance (President Keyes), Monday, 15 July 2024 19:50 (one year ago)

^^^^^ Are those wax statues?

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 15 July 2024 19:51 (one year ago)

"God. That movie is bad. Like, abysmal."

its kinda awesome though! its a jaw-dropper. just when you thought they didn't make hilariously bad t.v. movies anymore along came Hillbilly Elegy.

scott seward, Monday, 15 July 2024 19:51 (one year ago)

Every time Glenn Close talked she spit in my face.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2024 19:55 (one year ago)

Bad Ronald, however, was a great movie.

henry s, Monday, 15 July 2024 19:58 (one year ago)

(Also a TV movie.)

henry s, Monday, 15 July 2024 19:59 (one year ago)

since ilx first mentions thread is locked

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trump-us-politics-poor-whites/

thought this was a p interesting read

― jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:18 PM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

WRT to the Trump voters having higher incomes: yes, but it's a type of higher-income person who regards himself as the champion of the common joe. He's successful, he owns an exurban mcmansion, but he feels more tribally linked to the downscale Appalachian white male than to liberal coastal urban elites.

From the JD Vance thing Gbx linked:

In a world of Trump, we’ve abandoned the pretense of persuasion. The November election strikes me as little more than a referendum on whose tribe is bigger.

For good or for ill I think this is right, for many voters. The battle consists partly of convincing undecided that they are better served by one's own tribe, and worse served by the other.

Another part is the registration/motivation/turnout efforts directed at your tribespeople to make sure they all get counted.

― mandolinsanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:55 PM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:04 (one year ago)

I want you to remember I saw through Vance's book when some of you ate it up like ice cream.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) July 15, 2024

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:12 (one year ago)

Our Media is Ready pic.twitter.com/NzvER1rQD1

— Eli Valley (@elivalley) July 15, 2024

Tumescence achieved

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:12 (one year ago)

P to V

― Jersey Devil Vance (President Keyes)

i guess you can't say i have _nothing_ in common with trump

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:14 (one year ago)

RNC going well

Sounds like old Mike Johnson is dealing with cognitive decline. https://t.co/i4O3FrazoT

— Ambassador Greg Delawie (@GregDelawie) July 15, 2024

Jersey Devil Vance (President Keyes), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:16 (one year ago)

Scoop: Biden WILL announce plan to cap rents at 5% nationwide, sources say

Would strip tax benefit from corporate landlords who dont comply

Plan, which likely requires D control of Congress, comes as Biden emphasizes populist econ ideas after debate

W/ @rachsieghttps://t.co/iOcmE9ig0e

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) July 15, 2024

Scoop: Biden WILL announce plan to cap rents at 5% nationwide, sources say

Would strip tax benefit from corporate landlords who dont comply

Plan, which likely requires D control of Congress, comes as Biden emphasizes populist econ ideas after debate

Washington Post story:

President Biden will unveil a new proposal in Nevada on Tuesday to cap rental costs nationwide, according to three people familiar with the matter...

The policy push reflects the White House’s efforts to respond to widespread voter anger over high housing prices, which have soared since the pandemic and undermined Biden’s standing among voters about the economy. Nevada has seen among the biggest explosions of housing costs in the country, and Democrats have grown increasingly concerned that Trump could win the state in November.

Biden’s plan — which would need to be approved by Congress — calls for stripping a tax benefit from landlords who increase their tenants’ rent more than 5 percent per year, the people said. The measure would only apply to landlords who own more than 50 units, which represents roughly half of all rental properties, the people said. It wouldn’t cover units that have not yet been built, in an attempt to ensure that the policy does not discourage construction of new rental housing. The people spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a proposal that isn’t yet public.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:20 (one year ago)

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91n+yOTjuVL._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_.jpg

brimstead, Monday, 15 July 2024 20:20 (one year ago)

Vance has a deep bench of stupid factoids to talk about and I don’t look forward to hundreds of think pieces about the hillbilly book/movie, more people finding out about NRx horseshit, etc

just noise that gets more press coverage!

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:21 (one year ago)

Vance is the worst possible pick given how much he loves killing women over their decision to get abortions.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:23 (one year ago)

"Bad Ronald, however, was a great movie."

very true!

scott seward, Monday, 15 July 2024 20:24 (one year ago)

if Biden got shot at the article would probably be something like 'Stupid Old Fuck Got Shot At, Gets Civilian Killed'

rick beato meato manifesto (Neanderthal), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:24 (one year ago)

Will Trump be granted access to Thiel’s blood boys?

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:25 (one year ago)

appropriate!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_Earth

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:27 (one year ago)

https://i.ibb.co/g30gbw0/Screenshot-2024-07-15-4-26-54-PM.png

rick beato meato manifesto (Neanderthal), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:28 (one year ago)

Riding to the White House! Witness me, blood bag!

omar little, Monday, 15 July 2024 20:28 (one year ago)

thought it was Styx playing at the convention right now but they are playing a Journey song at the moment so maybe not.

scott seward, Monday, 15 July 2024 20:29 (one year ago)

will 2scoops make JD shave that scraggly hipster beard?

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:34 (one year ago)

nah, Trump needs the creeper vote

Jersey Devil Vance (President Keyes), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:38 (one year ago)

First candidate on a presidential ticket with a beard since Charles Evans Hughes in 1916!

o. nate, Monday, 15 July 2024 20:38 (one year ago)

idk. still thinking about politics a lot, how it's been. how i am ignorant of basically all news and have been for a while.

most of the places i hang out, talking about politics is literally not allowed. people spiral. people get suicidal. people get into panic attacks. it's not healthy, you know, it's not safe.

and for the most part i'm ok with it because it's about radical acceptance, it's about, you know, i'm on the outside. politics isn't something i talk about, it's something i do, and the way i do politics is by, well, existing. my existence is a political act. for a while i was proud of that, but now i think it's a nuisance. it's stupid. i have other, more important things to worry about than what people I don't know and will never talk to believe about my gender identity.

whoever is in congress, whoever's president, you know, i'm going to go on living my life, caring for myself and the people i care about, until i die. however that happens. maybe that's fatalism, but i prefer another term for it. resilience.

cuz the thing is, even when i an talk about politics, what i find more and more often is that... i just don't have anything to say. yes, i know i've been posting a lot here for the last day or so, i'll go away soon, i promise.

talking about politics, for a while now, has been less and less about horse race stuff and more and more, well, group therapy. that's one of the things... 9/11 radically disrupted the normal way i thought about politics, talked politics, and eventually things went back to "normal" for me. and after 2016, they just didn't. i just talk about, think about politics the way i thought about 9/11 now. politics, to me, politics is a form of trauma, basically.

and maybe that's why donald trump getting shot doesn't make a difference to me. you know, it was what people were afraid of under gwb, the idea of a "perpetual state of emergency" - i mean, that is america today, america is in a perpetual state of emergency. do we even fly the flag at full staff anymore? we shouldn't. and if everything is an emergency, well, nothing is an emergency. just something else to throw on the pile. just more bullshit i have to deal with for some reason. again, that seems cynical, but the point is that no matter what the circumstances, i am _living my fucking life_. electoral politics just isn't a big part of it right now.

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:38 (one year ago)

also why the fuck are we still calling trump "2scoops" like no offense but it is fucking _2024_ let the fuck go

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:39 (one year ago)

out of all the cretins slithering into this thing i have to say that mma guy dana white might be my least favorite. he really creeps me out. can't stand him. and MTG will be there! so, that's saying something.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/07/15/rnc-convention-2024-speakers-list/74406450007/

scott seward, Monday, 15 July 2024 20:39 (one year ago)

okay i gotta say the convention band is doing justice to "reelin' in the years". not bad.

scott seward, Monday, 15 July 2024 20:43 (one year ago)

It's probably Jeff "Skunk" Baxter himself playing.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 15 July 2024 20:45 (one year ago)

Savannah Chrisley, TV personality and criminal justice reform advocate

I'm sorry, but being billed as a "criminal justice reform advocate" is very funny when your parents are in federal prison for bank fraud and tax evasion, which was done to prop up the illusion of wealth for a reality tv show

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:45 (one year ago)

i guess you can't say i have _nothing_ in common with trump

― Kate (rushomancy)

bottom-of-the-ticket surgery

btw i'm sure "MTG" stands for something other than "magic the gathering" but i neither know or care what human being has those initials

the best thing about politics is not knowing what anyone is talking about and making up my own story

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:45 (one year ago)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petersuciu/2021/05/14/marjorie-taylor-greene-confused-with-magic-the-gathering-on-twitter/

Jersey Devil Vance (President Keyes), Monday, 15 July 2024 20:47 (one year ago)

https://www.nplusonemag.com/issue-45/politics/j-d-vance-changes-the-subject-2/

since we’ll all be forced to get to know him better than we’d like, I highly recommend this gabe winant essay on the founding myth of JD vance

brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 15 July 2024 21:15 (one year ago)

Half wonder if the exaggerated concern for trumps wellbeing ppl are scorning is a desperate attempt to paint him as weak & fragile, to counter the putative strongman cred that comes from having your earlobe grazed by a bit of glass

Blupunishads (wins), Monday, 15 July 2024 21:15 (one year ago)

This is mostly so Trump can get his claws into Thiel’s bank account, right

Methuselah/Van Winkle ‘24 (DJP), Monday, 15 July 2024 21:17 (one year ago)

it's to discourage further assassination attempts

c u (crüt), Monday, 15 July 2024 21:18 (one year ago)

Vance is the worst possible pick given how much he loves killing women over their decision to get abortions.

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, July 15, 2024 3:23 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he voted against ivf!

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 July 2024 21:19 (one year ago)


Tumescence achieved


Dinner lost

a based robot like Bender (stevie), Monday, 15 July 2024 21:36 (one year ago)

Negroni mixed.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2024 22:03 (one year ago)

buzz achieved

Bad Bairns (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 15 July 2024 22:17 (one year ago)

"WHAT MORE DO I HAVE TO SAY!?!?!"

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 July 2024 22:18 (one year ago)

also why the fuck are we still calling trump "2scoops" like no offense but it is fucking _2024_ let the fuck go


2coups?

Bad Bairns (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 15 July 2024 22:21 (one year ago)

I got 2 coups
one for the Don and one for the Vance

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 July 2024 22:32 (one year ago)

DV, a fitting acronym

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Monday, 15 July 2024 22:33 (one year ago)

lol Alfred

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 15 July 2024 22:38 (one year ago)


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