US Politics, July 2024 - "Will you just drop out, man?"

so the documents case was thrown out by a judge that was appointed by Trump himself - imagine the outrage if this happened in any other country

In any other country where it happened, being outraged would probably get you thrown in jail. So, enjoy your impotent outrage! Like the great Lee Greenwood said, at least we know we're free.

much handwringing being made from people saying oh the 11th will uphold Cannon cos Clarence Thomas is assigned to that circuit, like, that isn't how it works, he doesn't just act as Emperor of the circuit, how do you think the last two Cannon batshit decisions were overruled?

the real decision is whether to do that or whether to refile in DC, to get a shot of having another judge assigned, per Mark Joseph Stern

i'm proud to be Amecran
Where at sleet i know im fwee
n i wont protect the menu fries
that gave lil wyte to me

how do we think Trump actually dying would affect him in the polls

the irritating part about this is if/when Trump wins and he starts really inciting shit and breaking laws we will be reminded over and over that we were just one inch and/or half a second away from avoiding all of this

It’s the resurrection that will seal the deal.

i just don't think he's... i mean i kinda see alan moore as the comic book equivalent of david foster wallace. to be completely honest.

― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, July 15, 2024 12:08 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

DFW and Moore share almost nothing in common other than the fact that lame-o online hipsters find people who like them smelly.

there's always the October surprise (heart attack)

pre-shooting, so go ahead and add another 2-3 points to Trump's lead

#New General Election Poll - Battlegrounds

Arizona
🔴 Trump 44% (+7)
🔵 Biden 37%

Georgia
🔴 Trump 44% (+4)
🔵 Biden 40%

Michigan
🔴 Trump 42% (+2)
🔵 Biden 40%

North Carolina
🔴 Trump 44% (+4)
🔵 Biden 40%

Nevada
🔴 Trump 46% (+4)
🔵 Biden 42%

Pennsylvania
🔴 Trump…

— Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) July 15, 2024

unpopular/uncool opinion but personally i doubt this specific event will affect things in November in any concrete way. it’ll just be another crazy thing that happened. four months is an eternity in politics. Reagan got the crap shot out of him in 81, almost died, and after a couple months his popularity was right back to where it was before, and even got lower before the midterms. And the country was obv a lot less polarized than it is now. People/Trump will ofc talk about it constantly but i’m pretty skeptical of the idea that this will sweep him into office on a wave of sympathy. I mean, a guy literally crashed a plane into the white house in 94 and no one even remembers that it ever happened.

xpost I wonder how much of a Vance-bump Trump will get

Honestly Trump is so roundly and genuinely despised, a very beatable guy despite what some might feel, that we should all be appalled the Dems couldn't come up with a dynamic and energizing option in the last four years. I really didn't think Biden would run again.

there's always the October surprise (heart attack)

― rick beato meato manifesto (Neanderthal), Monday, July 15, 2024 12:08 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, II don't know if I would necessarily survive the stress of an assassination attempt. You'd for sure think it'd have an adverse impact on someone whose heart is comprised entirely of jerky and pumps rich & sumptuous gravy.

This looks like another Stephen Paddock situation where the motive is entirely unknown.

Maybe he was aiming for the teleprompter all along

how do we think Trump actually dying would affect him in the polls

― rick beato meato manifesto (Neanderthal)

i think he'd get a good 3-4 point bump from that

DFW and Moore share almost nothing in common other than the fact that lame-o online hipsters find people who like them smelly.

― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes)

i mean i'll cop to being a lame-o online hipster

right now i'm probably more smelly than most of their fans, though

it's the depression, showering is hard

i admit that i'm more emotionally invested in the question of whether or not dfw and alan moore have similar traits as writers than i'm invested in donald trump getting shot

This looks like another Stephen Paddock situation where the motive is entirely unknown.

― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, July 15, 2024 12:33 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

IIRC, assassins (would-be or otherwise) with muddied motives are more the rule than the exception. My mind was blown, for instance, when I found out that George Wallace was shot by a guy who was just looking to become famous. You kinda just assume with a raging asshole like that that there had to be ideological motives but nope.

Hinckley was in love with Jodie Foster, the first person I think of when I see Ronald Reagan.

dfw more clearly wanted to be thomas pynchon imho

xpost

ok hold on, is this the same YouGov poll from above? if so keeping Biden in is political malpractice and everyone who donated to Biden ought to be working on a class action lawsuit right now

#NEW @YouGovAmerica/@thetimes Senate Polls:

MICHIGAN
Elissa Slotkin (D) 49% (+9)
Mike Rogers (R) 40%
.
PENNSYLVANIA
Bob Casey (D-Inc) 51% (+12)
David McCormick (R) 39%
.
ARIZONA
Ruben Gallego (D) 49% (+7)
Kari Lake (R) 42%
.
NEVADA
Jacky Rosen (D-inc) 47% (+6)
Sam Brown (R) 41%…

— Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) July 15, 2024

took a half day from work, it's all getting to me too much right now. but also fuck work.

dfw more clearly wanted to be thomas pynchon imho

xpost

― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, July 15, 2024 10:51 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah say what you want about him but I doubt DFW was looking much to comic books for inspiration

You kinda just assume with a raging asshole like that that there had to be ideological motives but nope.

Yeah i was thinking abt that yesterday. Are Booth and Czolgosz the only US presidential shooters who had purely political motives?

Hinckley acted on purely cinephile grounds

feels a smidge like 2020 before biden swept super tuesday

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/04/politics/super-tuesday-takeaways/index.html

whoever the eventual democratic candidate is -- biden, harris, clooney -- seeing the name "trump" on a ballot i'd very eagerly wager will gross out more voters than not, no less after yet another climate crisis (hurricane season!) summer has only weighed heavier on reasonable adult minds

i will say that my reaction to picking up infinite jest a few times and looking in it was similar to my picking up watchmen a few times and looking in it. both of them looked really boring. so i put them down. or maybe not boring. confusing. but not intriguing.

This guy always fascinated me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Zangara#

ok hold on, is this the same YouGov poll from above? if so keeping Biden in is political malpractice and everyone who donated to Biden ought to be working on a class action lawsuit right now

― frogbs

see this has always been my main concern about biden. i don't give a fuck if he loses. i _am_ concerned that he will take the entire fucking democratic party down with him.

feels a smidge like 2020 before biden swept super tuesday

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/04/politics/super-tuesday-takeaways/index.html

god that was just before lockdowns began -- what a time

whoever the eventual democratic candidate is -- biden, harris, clooney -- seeing the name "trump" on a ballot i'd very eagerly wager will gross out more voters than not, no less after yet another climate crisis (hurricane season!) summer has only weighed heavier on reasonable adult minds

― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, July 15, 2024 1:02 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

and yet Trump is polling way higher than everyone else in the Republican party

I don't understand, all the numbers in that poll post show Dems ahead?

Zangara is all time for his bit in Sondheim's Assassins

First I was figure I kill Hoover
I get even for the stomach
Only Hoover up in Washington
Is winter time in Washington
Too cold for the stomach in Washington—
I go down to Miami, kill Roosevelt

I don't understand, all the numbers in that poll post show Dems ahead?

― I painted my teeth (sleeve),

in Senate races

plus IRL

As he was led out of the courtroom, Zangara told the judge: "Four times 20 is 80. Oh, judge, don't be stingy. Give me a hundred years."[17]

the parts about non superhero comic Kirby in Jerusalem)

This was of course actually about awesome 50's comic HERBIE, wouldn't want the fine folks of the US politics thread to sit down with Jerusalem expecting a chapter about Jack Kirby's work in romance comics or indeed the recent manga featuring the

I don't understand, all the numbers in that poll post show Dems ahead?

But the presidential poll by the same outfit does not. And "split-ticket" voting is a real but rare phenomenon, which means that not all that many people are really going to vote for a Democrat for Senate but Trump for president. And since the presidential race drives voting — or non-voting — more than any other race, the Democratic fear is that people turned off by Biden will just stay home and not cast those needed down-ballot votes.

but yes there is a good case to be made there - the debate, the calls for Biden to drop out, the ABC interview, the SC immunity ruling, the NATO speech, the assassination attempt, and now the documents case getting dropped - all this happened in the span of about 2 1/2 weeks. so what little hope I have now leans on pure chaos theory, so much insane shit is bound to happen over the next few months that trying to prognosticate anything is a fundamentally useless exercise

aliens scheduled to attack next week

whatever chaos ensues in the next four months or so what will remain constant is if 2scoops "wins" life will be objectively worse for the majority of americans come (project) 2025

Paul McCartney dies.

events, dear boy

Alfred is the Campari in the Negroni of ilx

i want them to announce that biden is stepping down and kamala is taking over right when trump is accepting the nomination. i don't know why i want that. but i do.

Best to do it right after the convention ends, so days of attacks on Biden are suddenly obsolete.

that would be the smart thing to do

events, dear boy

well played

From today's Garbage Day email:

On stage at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday, former President Donald Trump was shot in the ear. The attack happened while I was on a plane back from the Garbage Day Live show in San Francisco and, as news broke, a man behind me told a flight attendant, “Trump’s been shot,” to which she sort of laughed and excitedly said, “really?!” She then waited a beat and said, “wait, sorry, that came out wrong. That’s scary.”

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum have each been told they won't be former President Trump's choice as vice presidential nominee, Axios has learned. Trump is expected to unveil his running mate on Monday afternoon.

Why it matters: Rubio was on Trump's shortlist but there were concerns over the two sharing the same state of residency, which would draw constitutional concerns and legal challenges. Trump previously said he was concerned by the severity of a near-total abortion ban that Burgum signed in 2023.

Doug Burzum