US Politics, July 2024 - "Will you just drop out, man?"

he keeps walking in circles! he's so close to everyone.

i wonder what he smells like. he's like two inches from these people. uh oh he touched someone, careful...

He's said "anyway" twice since I posted.

that we’re still tone policing use of the word Zionist while the Zionist entity has murdered nearly 200,000 human beings is completely absurd

There are good Zionist on both sides

“Fine people on both sides.”

Ok, I’ll make it easier. Fuck America, Russia, and Israel. There. Zionism is shit and always will be. The idea that any nation is destined to survive is inherently arrogant and stupid

an ex-gf texted me something like 'the zionists control everything!' and I was like whoa, cool it there proudboy... I get what she's saying but the language is still problematic

she's not talking to me now

he's so close to everyone

Don't stand

Don't stand Joe

Don't stand Joe close to me

bringing it baxk to the thread, i will note that while i am horrified by so many people waving away our president’s support for an obvious genocide, i was equally horrified to watch a NYT video about Arab American voters in Michigan basically saying that they will do anything to defeat Biden…even vote for Trump. which… i may withhold my vote for the Dem nominee but there is no fucking way in hell I would vote for Trump, especially if I cared about Palestine. the binaristic element shown in some understandings of this issue completely blow my mind. like, you’re angry at Biden for supporting Israel, so am I. so you’re going to vote for the guy who does Adelson’s bidding and instituted the Muslim ban? that’s some thickly idiotic reasoning, I gotta say

As I mentioned in last month's thread I'll vote for him because he actually respects the constitution. The bar isn't high, but the table stakes are literally fascism and voting rights. Keeping Project 2025 is entirely what my vote for Biden (if it sadly ends up being him) is for, and that supercedes everything else, including all foreign policy and the terrible immigration policy of late.

I'm taking P25 seriously and wish more people would too. Rule of law is a low bar, but it's either that or let's just go full accelerationism and tear up the Constitution and start over?

Keeping Project 2025 out of the federal government is what I meant to say. The implications of this initiative are far more aggressive than anything we've seen in our lifetimes and will affect blue states rights to things like abortion.

not to mention possibly even more SCOTUS picks

Anyway

^^^

August thread title

A takedown of Heather Cox Richardson:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/07/biden-step-down-history-heather-cox-richardson.html

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, July 12, 2024 11:50 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

solid piece. when I called her the eric fiegl-ding of historians, this is basically what I meant. though honestly I was probably being a little too generous to EFD, who I think even normies figured out was a clown pretty quickly. eric topol or ashish jha would be more accurate maybe

Apparently Biden will be giving a speech in Detroit in which he's going to focus on Project 2025. And tomorrow, we'll get 50 more stories about anonymous Democrat hacks and shitheads in Congress nobody's ever heard of, for good reason, saying he should step down without saying that Harris should be the nominee.

lol

The fact that I've never heard of most of the congressional Dems coming out against him makes me question if they're speaking out to get their names in the press more than they're actually concerned about defeating trump.

if they are in any way typical House reps, they care >>>>>>> more about winning their district than getting the national media attention for half a minute

jim himes is on tv all the time

bringing it baxk to the thread, i will note that while i am horrified by so many people waving away our president’s support for an obvious genocide, i was equally horrified to watch a NYT video about Arab American voters in Michigan basically saying that they will do anything to defeat Biden…even vote for Trump. which… i may withhold my vote for the Dem nominee but there is no fucking way in hell I would vote for Trump, especially if I cared about Palestine. the binaristic element shown in some understandings of this issue completely blow my mind. like, you’re angry at Biden for supporting Israel, so am I. so you’re going to vote for the guy who does Adelson’s bidding and instituted the Muslim ban? that’s some thickly idiotic reasoning, I gotta say

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, July 12, 2024 5:33 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

you live in PA right? you should definitely vote

A NY Times link, so apologies:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/07/12/opinion/biden-trump-electoral-map-outlook.html

― beamish13, Friday, July 12, 2024 3:45 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

tough read. even if they do replace biden, it'll be very hard to win

beamish13 is making me miss Left

The offer of the labor department portion of the 2025 project tried to by my next door neighbors house. I pressured my neighbors so hard to not let him and it seriously stressed me out for a while. It ultimately fell apart thank god

The “author” sheesh

beamish13 is making me miss Left

― flopson, Friday, July 12, 2024 10:50 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol

What do folks think of the unequivocal NYT editorial which makes the startling case that Asshole should not be president? Or was it discussed upthread and I missed it?

Apparently Biden will be giving a speech in Detroit in which he's going to focus on Project 2025. And tomorrow, we'll get 50 more stories about anonymous Democrat hacks and shitheads in Congress nobody's ever heard of, for good reason, saying he should step down without saying that Harris should be the nominee.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, July 12, 2024 3:22 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

those must be some pretty light goalposts

Tyler Austin Harper of The Atlantic’s brilliant rundown of how Biden’s handlers are gaslighting us

Here's a list of things Biden defenders expect us to believe. 🧵

1. The Biden we see on TV – rambling, exhausted, confused – has no relationship to the Biden that is running the country. He's too old to campaign vigorously but not too old to be president, which is less taxing.

— Tyler Austin Harper (@Tyler_A_Harper) July 12, 2024

I could watch Jake Sullivan grabbing his chin in horror 1000 times lmao pic.twitter.com/vz6BpNoRNz

— 𝙅𝙊𝙃𝙉 𝙎𝙆𝙅𝙐𝙇𝙏 (@skjultster) July 12, 2024

many xposts: flopson, that’s for me to decide.

And tomorrow, we'll get 50 more stories about anonymous Democrat hacks and shitheads in Congress nobody's ever heard of, for good reason, saying he should step down without saying that Harris should be the nominee.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 12 July 2024 bookmarkflaglink

In a political party which was functioning and was geared towards the membership this wouldn't be happening.

Lol hadn't the Japan - Korea bit till now.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/13/opinion/joe-biden-president.html

That’s it imo. He’s the nominee.

caek has seen enough!

The little bitches crying for a new candidate at this stage are fuckjng morons. Certain loss if Biden dropped out now. At least they make themselves easy to spot.

^that’s one way to make others respect your opinion. Christ.

Why are you talking about ppl itt like that aren't here xpost

Fuckjng morans

He's just role playing as the angry Biden people were hoping for.

the convention hasn't happened, yet, so there's still some hope, but conventions have been heavily scripted events and can't turn on a dime to accommodate a different script. if it's Biden we get, then I'll dutifully vote for him, but if he digs in and stays in he fucking well better win in November. another Trump term would wreck what little is left is still functional in our federal government and fly it right into the mountainside.

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Thank you. I will never understand why Democrats are so scared to make enemies. I guess they think they might win Republican votes, so they don’t want to piss them off? But you define yourself by who you are fighting against. Somebody has to lose. Politics is about choices, and power, and who wins and who loses. You have to be willing to point the finger and say these guys over here have been getting away with too much for too long. How about this, how about instead of winning votes from Republicans by acting like a Republican, you make them ashamed of having anything to do with Republicans. So they no longer want to identify that way. There’s more then one way to skin a cat and some are more cowardly than others

As we know from Republicans, they not only skin the cat they grab the p-----

I will never understand why Democrats are so scared to make enemies.

Yeah I feel like my entire adult political life has been defined by Democrats being afraid that someone's going to call them communists or socialists or even *gasp* liberals. Then you back to FDR and he's like "come at me motherfuckers."

In this thread alone, one former ilxor kept saying we shouldn't impeach Trump cos Republicans would retaliate against civilians

Well not this months it was years ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/13/opinion/joe-biden-president.html

That’s it imo. He’s the nominee.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 13 July 2024 17:06 (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I have to say, Sanders is so much more eloquent when he's defending Biden than Biden is when he's defending himself.