US Politics, July 2024 - "Will you just drop out, man?"

Mixed feelings on this. Obviously, it cherry-picks his single worst moment from the debate two weeks ago; also, he's getting millions and billions mixed up in 2008. If nothing else, though, it's exactly the kind of ad that'll be everywhere in October (and cut to look even worse).

The best thing about it is when you get a couple of shots of Sarah Palin making notes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st7WZ_2L-Y8

wo weeks ago, biden had a chance to defeat trump. now he has zero chance. the reason is that now trump can say, truthfully - "why is biden even in this campaign? most of his own party doesn't even want him there." if i were trump, that's what i'd say. "you're just attacking me because most of the democratic [sic: 'democrat' if it's trump saying this] party wants you gone and you want to change the subject".

he'd be saying it now except he wants biden in the race rather than any other challenger, because with all of the other challengers, he's not able to simply say "biden's own party wants him out of there, it's pathetic"

― z_tbd, Thursday, July 11, 2024

idk I suspect more and more that Biden will not be the nominee

hopefully that goes hand in hand - the realization that biden can't win this race, like...forget the polls, just think about how this is going to play out. that realization will hopefully kick him out very soon, after nato

i don’t think any candidate will ever acknowledge they can’t win. that’s not the kind of thinking that got them here. it’s too much like giving up. biden will never, ever give up because that’s the mindset of a loser, a quitter.

unless you're a broken man like LBJ.

in biden’s mind he’s like, i’ve ridden out bigger storms than this. i’ve been written off before.

I'm sure a lot of people told him not to run in 2020. He showed those losers!

the people will only forgive hunter if he says "dad, i have something to show you. it's on my laptop", and then when he opens the laptop it's a font 144 bold message that says "it's time to drop out, you fought hard, i love you so much. let's go have a catch sometime outside, maybe, just you and me. or maybe we can just roll the ball to each other, or kick at it while we sit in lawnchairs"

or that same letter read aloud by George Clooney

george clooney could probably do a really good hunter biden

Jfc why do these old fucks want to work forever anyways?

They both have that almost-handsomeness.

let's go have a catch sometime outside, maybe, just you and me. or maybe we can just roll the ball to each other, or kick at it while we sit in lawnchairs"

"Cat's in the Cradle," but with a happy ending instead.

it's risky, but could biden's advisors pull the old "write his resignation letter and bury it in a large pile of pro forma paperwork that needs his signatures" trick?

hey, it worked with Trump

the happy ending would be biden showing up outside saying "bye bye me go home now" and everyone goes "awwwwwww...he's a brave trooper now lets go stop trump..." and biden shuffles inside and closes the door and then he runs to the back door of the white house and in the alley out back is an old jalopy with joe's old pals lefty and corn pop and they say "what took you so long...?" and then they roar off and have all kinds of adventures in mexico.

Biden crossing that rainbow bridge in a Trans Am.

Biden drops out of race and then shows up the next day forgetting he did it

^that's a great idea. now we just need to tell him that he dropped out yesterday and today is the first day he forgot it

gaslighting is bad, but this is for national security reasons

lol

Elder Abuse or Patriotism? You be the judge.

Starting on Super Tuesday, I tunneled deep inside Trump 2024 to study the people and priorities driving his campaign.

I found an operation that's been optimized to run a very specific race against a very specific opponent.

Now they just hope he stays in.https://t.co/p1Si4Gqbdu

— Tim Alberta (@TimAlberta) July 10, 2024

i dunno i think he's gonna drop out and i think there are going to be a lot more dems calling for it once nato is over

Haha, I called this shit elder abuse as well!

let's wrap this nato shit up team, we got a resignation letter to write

btw trump is meeting with orban later today. they're gonna talk about the meeting orban had with putin last week

what's more likely -- 2scoops goes to prison or sleepy joe drops out?

sleepy joe drops out by about 1 quadrillion to 1

The way Trump talks about Pelosi and Obama on the stump absent-mindedly, you know he'll keep ranting against Sleepy Joe in the present tense even after Biden's out of the race.

The Orban thing is so disconcerting, as was the Trump plane parked next to the Russian gov plane in D.C. for two days straight.

what's more likely -- 2scoops goes to prison or sleepy joe drops out?

whynotboth.gif

^^^

I want to see how the press conference goes tonight before I lay down any money

The press conference is scheduled for 5:30 Eastern today.

Ah geez he’d be loggy from his 4:30 Salisbury steak

Ever since the absolutely abysmal pro-genocide articles that the Atlantic has been running, I can't bring myself to click on anything they publish. Just abysmal stuff.

The author of that one is a NR refugee so I don’t think it’s going to change your mind.

Tim Alberta sucks, but since Justin Amash’s retirement, he is the public voice for the relatively large Trump opposition in the Michigan Republican Party.

when you cannot see a way to win the game you want keep playing the game. i am not surprised by that klein comment about anon biden defectors at all, because that’s been my mental analogy. biden-defectors think democrats can keep playing the game even if trump wins (and also he might not).

do you think dems or any opposition can keep playing if trump wins? i mean rome didn’t fall in a day. nb i never read gibbon.

Trump will never spend a single day in prison

press conference is 6:30 not 5:30 EST

Doesn't he begin sundowning at 6pm?

The Alberta article is actually interesting, just because it tells you something about what the people working behind Trump are thinking and doing. The short version is, they are pretty sure they are going to win, and they think there’s a good chance they get both houses of Congress too. They are excited. But also a few of them evince occasional bits of worry about what they are putting in motion. That never lasts long though.

Anyway, it was mostly reported and written before the debate blowup, but of course it’s updated at the top with all of that stuff. And they seem a little unsettled at the prospect of having to run against someone other than Biden, because that’s what all of their plans are based on. But they still mostly shrug and say they’re going to win anyway.

The most interesting thing from a strategic standpoint is the campaign is devoting a huge amount of resources to stopping “voter fraud“ at polling places, they are going to have people watching everything everywhere, filing challenges, etc. This is entirely at Trump’s direction, because apparently he really believes all the crazy things he says about vote fraud. So they are spending money on that rather than get out the vote efforts. Alberta kind of presses them on this, like is this really a good idea? But it’s what Trump wants.

Voter suppression instead of GOTV makes a lot of sense. With the right kind of cooperation from your flunkies in state legislatures and the judiciary it's MUCH easier to take votes away from your opponent in selectively targeted precincts than it is to find large numbers of voters who wouldn't have voted without your GOTV efforts.

it makes a lot of sense if you want to lose

Jim Crow vote suppression won a hell of a lot of elections in the old Confederacy states. It was sort of their specialty.

if youre famous and the right type, they (by which i can include scotus) will let you do it.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/07/11/voters-feelings-about-the-2024-campaign-and-candidates/

A narrow majority of voters (53%) say they would replace both Biden and Trump with different candidates if they had the ability to decide the major party candidates for the 2024 presidential election. The share saying this is up slightly from the 49% of voters who said this in April.

That shift is largely due to Biden supporters becoming more likely to say both candidates should be replaced:

71% of Biden backers now say they would replace both candidates, up from 62% in April.
The share of Biden supporters who would keep Biden but replace Trump is down to 23%, from 32% in April.

From Politico:

Democratic lawmakers are making contingency plans in case Joe Biden tanks his highly anticipated solo press conference later Thursday, with at least a half-dozen lawmakers preparing to go public against the president, according to six people familiar with discussions.

Three of those lawmakers’ offices have already drafted statements, according to two people who have been briefed on conversations.

yes, let's give him one more high profile chance to screw up before we act