US Politics, July 2024 - "Will you just drop out, man?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9LZXheHddI

I mean some people (including some itt) probably do actually "hate Biden," but there are a whole bunch of us who voted for him once and will again if that's the option who think he's just a bad candidate. That's not "hate," it's not personal except in the sense that he personally is polling badly and performing badly in public and doesn't seem up to making his own case for reelection. I'm irritated at him for running and putting us all in this situation, I think he's being myopic and egotistical and putting his vanity ahead of the country, but that's situational — I don't hate him, I disagree with his decisions.

What I think is weirder is the devotion to him personally I've seen from some people (including some itt, but less so here than elsewhere), like there's something iwe owe to him. I don't think anyone owes him shit, he's there to do a job as nominee and he's doing it poorly.

Jon Stewart looks like Hunter.

I don't think most of the NYT writers calling Biden to drop out hate him, either! But they do hold Biden do a higher standard than they do Trump, and they also know that they have far more actual influence with the Democratic Party than with the Republicans.

emphasizing abortion, the chaos and lawlessness of Trump, and general looming apocalypse

i don't think roe v wade will be as helpful as it was in 2022. different electorate in a general election vs midterm, plus trump got the gop to moderate on abortion in their platform, and biden's response in the debate when trump dramatically oversold the extent of moderation was to pivot to immigration. trump's legal problems don't seem to have hurt him in the polls much, but they did cause his donations to explode, closing his funding gap. all the polls we're seeing now from swing states are from a context where almost 100% of ads are run by democrats

+ Biden's presence actively undermines arguments about chaos and looming apocalypse (ie the strongest Democratic arguments)

Trump got the gop to moderate on abortion in their platform,

I don't think anybody not in Trumpworld believes this; the people for whom this most counts are the ones reading the prestige newspaper home pages whose stories are pointing out Trump's cynicism too. But we'll see.

i regard the democratic party like i'd regard any normal party, one to be held to a higher standard, and they frequently disappoint me and anger me. i regard the republican party like a drug cartel, where nothing is beneath them at this point, expect the worst and they'll sink to a new low you didn't see coming. so in that light, I don't hate Biden, I personally will vote for him and tell everyone i know to do the same (except that one weird wing of my family who probably thinks i'm a woke cuck), but he's infuriating and i think it would be the best for him to drop out immediately, albeit in a careful strategic fashion.

If you can overlook all the usual Stewart schtick, that clip has some amazing stuff--I felt bad for laughing at it. Also a great rejoinder to the "How come nobody is going after Trump?" complaint.

damn i hadn't realized biden lost colbert

Colbert finished his monologue by solemnly saying, “I believe he’s a good enough man. He is a good enough president to put the needs of the country ahead of the needs of his ego. And however painful that might be, it is possible that handing leadership to a younger generation is the right thing for the greater goodest. Or good as. Either one.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/stephen-colbert-suggests-it-might-be-best-for-biden-to-step-down

“I thought the war would help me win.”-George H. W. Bush, reminiscing in hell

Lost John Stewart, Colbert, Yglesias, AND the NYT??? That's unironically more damning than all the official polling combined...

* Jon lol

Democrats can’t keep campaigning on reproductive freedom when they wouldn’t codify it into law for 50 years. Assholes like Biden were among those standing in the way of this. Gotta earn that communion wafer

yglesias tweeted that joe should step down the night of the debate, and stewart has been pretty critical of biden's age for a while (first segment in his first episode back was about the special counsel that called biden a "well-meaning but forgetful old man"). and the nyt editor had some interview ranting about how biden won't grant them an interview. but colbert is the GOAT biden suck-up. makes me wonder who is even left

it doesn't matter. he won't go unless he is actively pushed out by dems. it has to be regicide. other parties in other countries have a lot of experience in this but it is hardly ever done in the US. nobody has the muscle memory, the templates.

I can tell you who is left, it’s all of the resistance libs in my Facebook timeline. Lots of comparisons to “but her emails” and all that.

nobody has the muscle memory, the templates.

or the flair for drama. the dnc has no drama. a little bit would probably help them a great deal.

i think it is great that congressional dems are leaking privately that he should drop out, while supporting him publicly, making sure all the headlines are negative and that his status as the nominee solidifies. real double whammy

xxp tipsy don't forget the inspirational RBG memes (barf)

they are GREAT at begging for money though, i'll give them that. very experienced at it.

xps- isn't colbert like the king of the resistance libs?

Brutal new poll from @AARP in WI, considered the best of the blue wall states for Biden. In a field w/3rd party choices, Biden trails Trump by 6; Biden attracts only ~3/10 of young voters, men, indies and non college voters. Poll done by firms polling for Biden & Trump campaigns

— Ronald Brownstein (@RonBrownstein) July 9, 2024

When the AARP thinks you're too old

Ridin with Biden is going to be such a self own and totally in character for these silly fools

I'd rather not ride with someone who should not be driving

If we encourage him to drive more maybe he hits a tree...

^lol. I imagine Biden plowing into several dozen people like that octogenarian in Santa Monica

get in loser we're going for ice cream

I don’t even have the heart to see if the Onion is having fun with recent events

Make sure there are no pro-Palestine protests within a hundred miles of Joe's Camaro

The free speech zone was moved to Canada

xp

Biden Team Holds Rapid-Fire Series Of Public Events Featuring President Waving From Very Far Away

They should get him out there looking youthful, riding a skateboard, doing TikTok challenges…

"hello, fellow kids"

You know honestly I feel like the chances of them pulling some stuff like that aren't as low as we might hope

did i dream it or were they already using some AI stuff with him?

Joe's other dogs were a failure but he could expropriate the skateboarding bulldog I see on Tiktok.

A jaw harp on Jimmy Fallon could win over America.

they should construct an entire "village" full of fake buildings and campaign volunteers to wave at biden as he drives through! you're doing your best and that's good enough, sir!

NEW: After today’s House Democratic caucus meeting, @RepJeffries tells me: “We had a caucus meeting today that gave members an opportunity to express themselves in a candid and comprehensive fashion. And those discussions will continue throughout the balance of the week.”

— Nikole Killion (@NikolenDC) July 9, 2024

That seems...good? It's not "we're all on board and moving forward."

I saw a quote saying the vibe was like a funeral in there

xp - it's worse, as carne said some posts back, the public-facing backing while leaking and grumbling privately is the worst combo. All the negative stories, still going to be stuck with Biden.

IMO, it's a waste of energy now - if he was going to go quietly it would have happened and the Democrats aren't going to be willing to do anything else.

I'm holding out one hope: that polls keep coming out that are worse and worser. Mondale/McGovern/Goldwater-level bad.

they'd also have to show Harris doing measurably better than him though, if we have a couple weeks of polling showing that Biden is toast but Harris has a good shot the news will pick up on that and I feel like pretty much everyone will turn against Biden then

it won't matter. we are talking about the Democratic Party here.

unsurprisingly, I hate Biden and think he belongs in a cell at the Hague, but since “human rights” is a concept for the west to utilize in disciplining foreign colonies, that will never happen. Fuck Joe Biden.

*former foreign colonies

And the news will absolutely not report on any positive developments for the Dems. I think the last few weeks have only underscored just how badly every major media outlet in the country is positively salivating at the eyeballs and clicks of another Trump presidency.