US Politics, July 2024 - "Will you just drop out, man?"

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Degenerate gamblers agree

Kamala for nominee futures are skyrocketing right now, doubled since noon: pic.twitter.com/W4sqI25Ez0

— Quantіan (@quantian1) July 2, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 17:59 (two years ago)

These things can happen fast:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/house-democrat-call-biden-withdraw/index.html

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 17:59 (two years ago)

this seems to be the best out of the terrible constrained options here, tbh, I realize everyone has been arguing abt Harris for days but the $200 mil already raised is a big deal

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:01 (two years ago)

yeah I mean it can't be anyone else for that reason alone

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:01 (two years ago)

It feels like anything is possible, in a way that sucks but is also wholly unreal. I guess … we’ll see whatever we’ll see, right?

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:07 (two years ago)

the post on the Future subreddit foreshadows our new xanned-out Dem candidate

c u (crüt), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:12 (two years ago)

its really wild, I mean this is what we all feared in 2016 isn't it? the GOP is willing to blow up whatever norms they need to in order to retain power and punish people, while the Dems would loudly go tsk-tsk and talk about how "no one is above the law" while taking no actual action to reign things in. now that the demise of the country is starting them in the face are they really gonna just sit back and go "oh well, at least we followed the rules"? I mean history says yes but man I dunno with all the calls for Biden to drop out there's a lot of "holy shit do something" out there

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:15 (two years ago)

I mean the situation seems pretty dire

New for @PuckNews:

Leaked polling from Democratic data firm OpenLabs shows Biden sinking in battleground states + putting states like Virginia, NH, New Mexico in play for Trump.

AND now - Harris, Whitmer, Newsom, Pete outpolling him in swing states.https://t.co/10VV6jFlh7

— Peter Hamby (@PeterHamby) July 2, 2024

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:17 (two years ago)

if their own internal polls are showing this...yeah, it'll happen.

perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:19 (two years ago)

Fuck Pete Buttigieg and don’t even joke about him being in contention

beamish13, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:26 (two years ago)

is Puck respectable? I've only seen'em quoted a handful of times over the years.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:27 (two years ago)

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/30/vance-president-immunity-biden-trump-00165948

perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:31 (two years ago)

Sexual assault allegations against RFK Jr.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/rfk-jr-reportedly-shared-photos-of-nude-women-bbqd-dog

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:32 (two years ago)

Sexual assault and animal abuse doesn’t hurt American politicians

beamish13, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:33 (two years ago)

I don't need to click the story -- the url is a delight and water came out my mouth.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:33 (two years ago)

xp Puck is fairly new (launched in 2021) but staffed by people with reputable pedigrees. You might see them quoted more if they weren't so heavily paywalled.

jaymc, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:33 (two years ago)

I think their journalists are mostly refugees from legit legacy publications, but “leaked internal polling” is always going to be fishy.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:34 (two years ago)

Gotcha! xpost

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:34 (two years ago)

RFK's response to the story was literally "I have a lot of skeltons in my closet."

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:36 (two years ago)

skeletons

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:36 (two years ago)

RFK Jr. had sex with a barbequed dog

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:37 (two years ago)

In his closet. Under the watchful eye of Red Skelton.

henry s, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:39 (two years ago)

Barbecue dog is only good if hickory flavored

perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:41 (two years ago)

Ok so now we need a 4th of July unity rally where Biden hands off to Kamala, she names Andy Beshear as veep candidate, and Bruce Springsteen and Taylor Swift sing the Battle Hymn of the Republic. (If one thing I didn’t think could happen actually might, might as well go all the way.)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:43 (two years ago)

I guess the next question is how much pressure will there be on Harris to remain the candidate or, for whatever personal reasons, step aside.

the possibility of relaxing (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:44 (two years ago)

I’m old enough to remember when (male) candidates had to drop out of races because they had an affair with an adult woman or smoked a joint.

Dick Cavett Poo Party (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:44 (two years ago)

Why are people talking like Biden's stepping down? Because a Congressman from Texas said he should?

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:46 (two years ago)

A congressman who looks like Garrison Keillor's stunt double I should add

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:48 (two years ago)

He wasn’t president when he was paying a porn star. What is there to delay and review in this?

― The transparently flimsy and misleading (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, July 2, 2024 9:34 AM bookmarkflaglink

Mr. Trump’s lawyers proposed filing their court papers on July 10, and the district attorney’s office said it would respond two weeks later.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/nyregion/trump-sentencing-hush-money-trial.html?unlocked_article_code=1.4E0.4spB.kjsRzMDCFCdS&smid=url-share

Ok this isn't that long of a delay.

I agree, let's see Trump's legal team lock him into their legal positions on this July 10. Judicial estoppel worked so well for them in the interplay between Trump's representations about his net worth in the E. Jean Carroll case and the damage award in the civil forfeiture case.

I want to hear them go through each of the 34 felony convictions in an excruciatingly detailed and highly public way, so we can understand exactly which of the jury findings are considered official acts and which are not.

As an added bonus, these legal positions will help the current President (whether Biden or Harris) understand better exactly how far their current presidential immunities go, according to Trump.

felicity, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:49 (two years ago)

I’m old enough to remember when (male) candidates had to drop out of races because they had an affair with an adult woman or smoked a joint.

― Dick Cavett Poo Party (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, July 2, 2024 11:44 AM bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, "Monkey Business" was considered a reason to drop out. How quaint.

My siblings were saying there is no way Al Franken would resign the Senate in today's climate, nor would he be hounded to do so.

felicity, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:52 (two years ago)

Why are people talking like Biden's stepping down? Because a Congressman from Texas said he should?

mostly vibes tbh

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:53 (two years ago)

Anyway I did all I could and emailed my Congressman and called my senators to call for Biden to step aside in favor of Harris. If it doesn’t happen, I guess I wasn’t forceful enough.

Dick Cavett Poo Party (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:55 (two years ago)

Clunker’s statement, if not taken out of context, is big.

Dick Cavett Poo Party (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:55 (two years ago)

Clymer

Dick Cavett Poo Party (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:55 (two years ago)

Hunter Biden has joined meetings with President Biden and his top aides this week at the White House, four people familiar with the matter tell my colleagues, who are told the reaction from some senior White House staff has been,  “What the hell is happening?”

— Ken Dilanian (@KenDilanianNBC) July 2, 2024

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:55 (two years ago)

I still hate what the DNC did to Katie Hill. She won a deeply conservative district. Fucking Pelosi

beamish13, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:56 (two years ago)

I watched him at some hurricane warning center today and it just felt like everyone in the room was watching and waiting for him to fuck up or perhaps stand out as fit and the whole thing felt uncomfortable.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:56 (two years ago)

I still hate what the DNC did to Katie Hill. She won a deeply conservative district. Fucking Pelosi

yeah, that was a huge shame.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:59 (two years ago)

I watched him at some hurricane warning center today and it just felt like everyone in the room was watching and waiting for him to fuck up or perhaps stand out as fit and the whole thing felt uncomfortable.

― (•̪●) (carne asada),

I think Hunter's off coke iirc.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:02 (two years ago)

If I liked the things Hunter likes and was facing a long prison sentence, I'd be inclined to go wild and plan to rehab behind bars.

the possibility of relaxing (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:04 (two years ago)

To be fair to Doggett, he’s not just some random Democrat, he’s a 77-year-old white guy and longtime congressman who supported Biden in 2020. He ought to be Biden’s core political demographic. But it’s also significant mostly because he’s a crack in the dam, and those have a way of spreading.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:07 (two years ago)

I don't know. I prefer Mulder.

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:08 (two years ago)

Clyburn was saying immediately after the debate, Biden or Harris, either one, so I didn't put much into his statement today

felicity, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:15 (two years ago)

Why are people talking like Biden's stepping down? Because a Congressman from Texas said he should?

― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, July 2, 2024 2:46 PM bookmarkflaglink

Biden's literal campaign co-chair said he'd support Harris if he stepped down. after two days ago publicly pooh-poohing the idea. you don't think a lot of discussion happened behind the scenes for him to say that publicly?

perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:17 (two years ago)

The one state I don't believe in that Puck poll is New Mexico. Really?

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:23 (two years ago)

Doggett's been a Texas House rep since 1994, and he's very well-liked and not prone to saying bullshit for attention

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:24 (two years ago)

I take Clyburn's statement as a shot at the folks talking up Whitmer and Newsom over Kamala.

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:25 (two years ago)

Whitmer would be a good choice

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:26 (two years ago)

sentencing pushed until September, gives them 2 more months to figure out how to squash it entirely

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-hush-money-sentencing-immunity-b2572660.html

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:27 (two years ago)

Whitmer would be a good choice

no, because then the $200 mil already raised is wasted, we've been over this

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:30 (two years ago)


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