US Politics, July 2024 - "Will you just drop out, man?"

if presidents are immune from prosecution, biden could kill the 6 justices who gave him that power, right?

people keep saying that -- Biden is a Democrat. Democrats won't be weaponizing this ruling, as they absolutely immediately should. I don't mean he "should" kill anybody, but there's so much this ruling opens up -- it's not good! the stuff it opens up is fucked up! and a party that wanted to retain power would jump in with both hands; it's what an (R) admin will absolutely do. but I don't think there'll be any actual "how do you like your ruling now?" stuff from Team Liberal. we just don't work like that. we'd rather lose! after all, we have our standards.

they go low, we go die

cool

🟡 NEW: The next Republican Party platform will be written behind closed doors.

In a break from decades-long precedent, reporters and spectators will not be allowed to watch next week’s party platform committee proceedings, @daveweigel reports.https://t.co/I7MafQywLw

— Semafor (@semafor) July 2, 2024

which means several of them have spouses/girlfriends/mistresses getting abortions and they're calibrating how to hide this from their voting public

Totally normal and cool

I've seen a lot of weird talk on Twitter about how this ruling means that Biden can issue a bunch of executive orders on anything. I mean sure, he can order that all immigrants in the country are now citizens, but it would still be overturned by the courts.

the talk of Biden doing anything extralegal to expose the stupidity of the ruling/restore balance is entire fan fiction that people are using as a coping mechanism, I doubt anybody (or hope nobody) believes he's going to do any of these things.

the message is going to be...

...as always...

..."we need to show up at the ballot box"

But how can Biden keep reaching across the aisle and following Michelle fucking Obama’s words of wisdom?

looking at 3-way voter polls, it seems less like Trump picked up much after the debate, but Biden lost support. Kennedy's numbers jumped in several polls, including one having him at 13%.

that might be why, uh, having him step down might be a good idea, because people not fleeing to Trump, but to a shitbag third party.

meanwhile, Giuliani disbarred

I hope this ruling doesn’t lead to unthinkable practices like targeting an american citizen in a drone strike! (being facetious — this is awful)

the fallout of the immunity ruling on the hush money sentencing continues:

NEW YORK — Donald Trump’s sentencing in his N.Y. hush money case may be postponed from next week in light of Monday’s Supreme Court immunity ruling, with the Manhattan district attorney saying he is not opposed to a delay requested by Trump’s lawyers so they can seek to vacate his conviction.

The district attorney’s office noted in a letter to the court Tuesday that sentencing would have to be delayed from July 11 for the defense to make its case about how the Supreme Court’s decision could impact Trump’s state court prosecution.

Trump’s conviction on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records was based in part on evidence of meetings and communications that occurred while he was president.

In a historic and far-reaching decision on Monday, the Supreme Court ruled that presidents have broad immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts, and that evidence cannot be used to prove alleged private criminal activity if that evidence is part of a president performing his official duties.

New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan has previously ruled that Trump’s conduct in the falsifying records case has nothing to do with his official duties as president, a decision Merchan made when rejecting a request by Trump’s lawyers to postponed the trial until after the Supreme Court’s ruling on immunity. The Supreme Court ruling was sparked by a different Trump criminal case, his federal election-interference trial in D.C. But it may impact his other cases as well.

Merchan must now rule on whether to formally adjourn the sentencing.

Even as they said they would not oppose a delay, prosecutors also said in their letter that the defense arguments about how the Supreme Court ruling should impact the New York case are “without merit.”[/q]

oh my fucking god

I'm going back to hoping they both die before the election

You know I’m now thinking that they need to replace him with Harris now, in light of the shock of the Supreme Court ruling. It actually might inject some new energy, even if Harris isn’t exactly someone to get excited about. That is, if she wants it and the Democrats are capable of actually doing something bold (I know, they aren’t).

the conversation around it is going to get louder, and not quieter. I don't know if it results in anything actually happening, but as much as Nancy/establishment/Biden want the convo to die down, the next week or two of polls is going to make the screams louder

Yeah, I saw that

Out of words.

Based on the rate of news in the past week alone, we're about 30 months out from MAGA squads knocking on doors to make sure the Trump portrait is hung to specs in all living spaces.

don't worry the Democrats have a comprehensive four year battle plan to deal with the fallout of another Trump administration. they've got this.

I look forward to seeing friends die as they’re nestled in their concentration camps

You make it sound kind of cozy.

How will the televised military tribunals work in the era of streaming? Will we all be required to subscribe to Trump TV? Will they be aired on every service?

I was alluding to my favourite episode of Strangers With Candy

He wasn’t president when he was paying a porn star. What is there to delay and review in this?

I keep picturing that scene from The Office where Michael declares bankruptcy by shouting out, "I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY", with Trump just pacing around yelling, "THIS IS AN OFFICIAL ACT" before everything he does.

He was President when he paid back Michael Cohen and labeled it a campaign expenditure.

Paying Stormy Daniels was not the crime.

To me, something like this would seem hard to ignore (even though Biden's defenders quite likely will):

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/cnn-poll-post-debate/index.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8mduTEvnU0

“Top campaign officials briefed donors in a call Monday evening. A person familiar with the call said the campaign stressed that Biden knows he needs to do better after the debate and that they plan to have him out more. “

RUH ROH

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"dear Ralston, I just sent you a letter about razor blades I found in my cereal. thank you for sending me more boxes of cereal with razors in them"

Beamish: I should have recognized that it’s only my favorite show ever :(

pic.twitter.com/WtAQyt5CwV

— soylent spleen (@beeofstagnancy) July 2, 2024

I lolled

Future 2024. A Percocet and stripper in every home.

and Gucci flip-flops

wow it really is a possibility he drops out, i would have never thought it

Future to Biden: "You deserve it"

When clyburn says this, it might be happening

“I will support” Vice President Kamala Harris if President Joe Biden “were to step aside,” Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC), Biden-Harris campaign co-chair, told Andrea Mitchell earlier on MSNBC.

— Gary Grumbach (@GaryGrumbach) July 2, 2024

Degenerate gamblers agree

Kamala for nominee futures are skyrocketing right now, doubled since noon: pic.twitter.com/W4sqI25Ez0

— Quantіan (@quantian1) July 2, 2024

These things can happen fast:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/house-democrat-call-biden-withdraw/index.html

this seems to be the best out of the terrible constrained options here, tbh, I realize everyone has been arguing abt Harris for days but the $200 mil already raised is a big deal

yeah I mean it can't be anyone else for that reason alone

It feels like anything is possible, in a way that sucks but is also wholly unreal. I guess … we’ll see whatever we’ll see, right?

the post on the Future subreddit foreshadows our new xanned-out Dem candidate

its really wild, I mean this is what we all feared in 2016 isn't it? the GOP is willing to blow up whatever norms they need to in order to retain power and punish people, while the Dems would loudly go tsk-tsk and talk about how "no one is above the law" while taking no actual action to reign things in. now that the demise of the country is starting them in the face are they really gonna just sit back and go "oh well, at least we followed the rules"? I mean history says yes but man I dunno with all the calls for Biden to drop out there's a lot of "holy shit do something" out there

I mean the situation seems pretty dire

New for @PuckNews:

Leaked polling from Democratic data firm OpenLabs shows Biden sinking in battleground states + putting states like Virginia, NH, New Mexico in play for Trump.

AND now - Harris, Whitmer, Newsom, Pete outpolling him in swing states.https://t.co/10VV6jFlh7

— Peter Hamby (@PeterHamby) July 2, 2024

if their own internal polls are showing this...yeah, it'll happen.

Fuck Pete Buttigieg and don’t even joke about him being in contention