All Series Must Die (Which Is Why There Are New Ones) -- The Game of Thrones Series Spinoffs

And of course the children resemble their respective enemies

The rewatch definitely helped as I understood precisely who everyone was and what their motivations were. There are a lot of characters (like Larys for instance) who I would have totally forgotten.

That said, even on my rewatch over the weekend the twins did not register as serious characters so I still scratched my head for a minute as to who they were or why I should care. But ok, I’m on board with them now, sure.

so much went on in that first season of this that I thought this might be the 3rd one

The gf is out of town and watching any of our current shows would be a hostile act, maybe cramming in a rewatch before the next ep would be doable

I spent most of this episode trying to piece together who the different characters were and what they had been up to last time we saw them. Too many silver-haired weirdos.

― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, June 17, 2024 12:24 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

plus literal twins.

― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, June 17, 2024 12:41 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

reminding my wife that Arryk's brother's name was Erryk felt like the final straw.

But it was I who had to stop the episode cause I was falling asleep.

this week’s ep was the best of either season to date

yeah the bar is v low but it actually NOW feels like an actual show and not a powerpoint slideshow of a family tree

yeah, it was an insane decision to zoom through the first season. there’s still a lot going on, but at least now the action has room to breathe

still struggling to keep all the various blonde weirdos straight in my head

still struggling to keep all the various blonde weirdos straight in my head

I cant keep it straight either. I have to go "ok so we've got one eye, and Matt Smith, and dreadlocks dude, and creepy twins, and some random other blonde girls nfi who they are, and... "

also King Egon (sp?) looks like the lovechild of Gerard Way & Evan Peters

I've noticed as I rewatch s1 that youn Aegon looks more like old Aemond, and vice versa. It's like they got the casting of the younger ones mixed up.

i thought the point was that aemond was a shrimpy, bullied kid who grew up to be a physically imposing adult

Exactly, who would care about Aemond if he couldn’t fight? He’s the second son.

there might be some thematic relevance to the visual interchangeability of the targaryen characters, as the story is about a family tearing itself apart (r.i.p. rryck twins), each side fighting for survival but destroying themselves at every stroke, but yeh it's a lot of pale blondes w/ similar names to trainspot.

ask me questions abt this dumb show if you are confuse! i read a book, once

super dumb question:
are any of these weirdos going to be the Mad King they refer to in GOT or does he come later

aware that maybe this lowers me in your estimation of my comprehension skills re this show but i don’t care lol

He's much later.

ok ty

ya this is like 150+ years before the start of game of thrones

but the mad king wasnt even IN got

so i kinda privately, wrongly, just assumed this series was going to cover him & his whole crazy deal but i guess not

i haven't watched the new season yet (scared to because I forgot everything and don't have the energy to rewatch the first) AND it's been ages since I read the books or saw GOT, but the Mad King was just before GOT. Jamie is "kingslayer" because he killed the mad king right?

Yup!

I mean at this rate I'm waiting for them to do a Blackfyre Rebellion series.

to be fair most of these kings are pretty fkn mad and there are rich veins of crazy to be mined from all these brotherhumpers

the proposed jon snow show's a no go but they're going ahead with dunk and egg/a knight of the 7 kingdoms, a kind of midquel series post hotd and pre got, which will feature the mad king's grandad who is also great (great?) grandson of some hotd characters, should be a good time where nothing bad happens i reckon!

huh! did not know that. that sounds like it could be ok!
*barring speed-runs through family trees lol

they are some nice little novellas and could make another dope series which i am cautiously kind of looking forward to! not so much of the tangled bloodlines, more knightly adventures, kind of like if brienne & podrick roamed the countryside during a less cursed era

there might be some thematic relevance to the visual interchangeability of the targaryen characters, as the story is about a family tearing itself apart (r.i.p. rryck twins), each side fighting for survival but destroying themselves at every stroke, but yeh it's a lot of pale blondes w/ similar names to trainspot.

Oh yeah, definitely intentional! The whole war is based on Allicent not knowing which Aegon her husband was talking about on his deathbed. And then the assassins not knowing which baby was the boy, then the twins killing each other. Not to mention all the incest and inter-marrying! I definitely think all the viewer confusion as to who is who is somewhat intentional.

Huh I never thought of that - that gives the whole plot some better colour.

There are sixteen historical Aegons in ASOIAF, I think, not to mention that Aegon is the name of the tallest hill in King's Landing as well as an island south of the Summer Isles.

The first of them was Aegon the Conqueror, or Aegon I, who was who Viserys was talking about on his deathbed. The current king is Aegon II. Rhaenyra has a son with Daemon named Aegon as well.

i thought the point was that aemond was a shrimpy, bullied kid who grew up to be a physically imposing adult

― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili)

It's not so much the growth spurt that threw me, but the shapes of their faces. Young Aegon has a more narrow, long face, and long nose, and so does older Aemond. Young Aemond has a rounder face, as does older Aegon.

Yes the casting of those young/old characters throws me off too.

r.i.p. to a rhael one

That was a really good episode!

i am now fully given over to being excited for this show

we are so back baby!
the throne is throning, the dragons are dragoning, and the witch is a goddamn barnowl

lets
fkn
go

lol <3

Agree - this is the show I look forward to every week. A far cry from season 1.

I also enjoy listening to the Talk the Thrones podcast the next day as two of the hosts really go deep on their GoT knowledge (without spoilers) and make a lot of connections I’d otherwise miss.

i’m into Ringer’s House of R podcast recaps - they have a weekly scene by scene deep dive that seemed excessive at first but now i’m v into it because I can never remember shit from GOT and I don’t know much lore

although tbh dragon fandom is a rubicon i don’t think i will ever cross

like knowing all their names like my little ponies (sunfire!? lmao)
too much commitment for me

like i dig Aegon’s dragon bc it’s fucking huge.
it’s name? raygar vaygar gaydar idk it escapes me.
Big Fuckoff Dragon wins. the end.

I always refer to Aemond's dragon as Big Honker

i’m into Ringer’s House of R podcast recaps - they have a weekly scene by scene deep dive that seemed excessive at first but now i’m v into it because I can never remember shit from GOT and I don’t know much lore

― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, July 8, 2024 5:02 PM bookmarkflaglink

YESSSS Ringer's House of R is great.

Chris, Mallory, and Joanna recapping it like a sports season always cracks me up.

Mallory predictably reduced to tears describing the bond between rider and dragon

lol yes vmic for Mallory

and i realize i said aegon when i meant aemon re big fuckoff dragon obv

these names are going to kill me

Aegon, Egon, Egg-On, Egg, Ayyyygon and Steve

Rhaegar Eagon Aemon Dozy Beaky Mick And Titch

Talk the Thrones and House of R are the same podcast. TtT is the one-hour instant recap they do, and then later the week they do the epic deep dives. I only do the short ones because even as I’m into the show, I can’t devote myself to a 3.5 hour weekly podcast.

oh lol yr right i forgot that

yeah i started with Talk only, like was repelled by the idea of a 3hr recap

…but i do regularly listen to Bandsplain so it’s not like 3+hr podcasts are not NOT for me

so yeah once i warmed up to their nerdiness i discovered i could cope with the full experience

I am loving just about everything this season, but the one nagging nit for me is Alyn. He seems like a compelling character and someone who I’ll enjoy watching eventually. But they’ve now done exactly one scene per episode with Alyn standing on the dock fixing Corlys’ boat, essentially repeating the same conversation each time but with a different person. This guy needs a new setting with something to do! I imagine following the most recent episode, and Corlys’ inevitable response next week, that will finally change.