The Bear on FX: aka HEARD! aka YES CHEF! aka Ketamine Gene Wilder cooks for u

Open for service 6/27!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHiwdDFPsZY

YES
CHEF

new trailer looks stressful af and i am here for it

hm
Claire detected

Those bowls are definitely different sizes.

I loved the first 2 seasons and that trailer fills me with dread. Carmy is turning into the Joel McHale character and I don't want to watch that. I don't know if I even want to watch him approach that precipice, wake up and back off.

idk I mean he kinda had a few out of character moments in S2 where he was explosive to his employees to where they quit, before recognizing what he did, owning it and atoning. like screaming at his employee "WHY ARE YOU FUCKING ME RIGHT NOW?" over and over again. still far removed from McHale's "you should die" levels of abuse but far beyond anything he'd done up until that point.

I feel like wrestling w/ the devil is something lots of kitchen managers struggle with, because of its high intensity, and of course the power trip some take w/ it, and unfortunately from my own experience, most of them seem to lose. can't imagine the writers will outright send Carmy completely into that rabbit hole though, it's definitely a show that wants us to root for him.

xp - otm, my first reaction to that trailer was "fuck, I hope they don't lean in to making him a stock asshole chef character" but trailers be trailering

Feels more like coked Gene Wilder by E2?

well by s3 he’s meth gene wilder bc our Carmy has lost his everloving mind

trent & atticus score is uh chefs kiss :D

imo the overall thesis of this series: being a chef at the fine-dining level gives you brain damage

ive only watched s3e1 and i am afraid to watch the rest carmy is going to tank so hard ughhhhhhhhhhh

Oh no, I don't want that. Why couldn't they just have run Chicago's greatest sandwich shop with occasional risotto?

Bc brain damage. I thought the first ep of S3 was sort of boring?

*Slight spoiler for first episode*

Since the show has the convention of the traumatic flashbacks in key moments, 5-10 seconds long in a character's head, I liked how this episode felt like expanding one of those flashbacks into a full stream-of-consciousness episode. I'm still wary about this going from a show about DIY teamwork to one about fine dining (especially getting Amex fine-dining ads, since I'm watching Hulu with ads), but I trust the show knows what it's doing.

Why is it still billed as a comedy??

30-minute Dramas aren't really a thing.

also once a genre is determined it is just locked in, it rarely if ever changes, as far as streaming platforms go

Interesting. So it is I guess. I remember laughing when the ceiling fell.

It's a really funny show, albeit in the same way Hill Street or Mad Men were where they working under a mask of Drama.

i watched one episode from season 1 last night where the toilet explodes, Richie walks into work with these sunglasses on and is all "what's up my replicants" and then gets in a wrestling match with Fak. i laughed a lot

also miami vice password
GOFASTBOATSMOJITOS

"I'm not like this because I'm in Van Halen. I'm in Van Halen because I'm like this."

<3

The idea of watching this does not seem at all appealing right now, although I'm sure there will be a few great episodes.

it’s fun mixed with mild stretches of occasional boredom, perfect tv!!!

ONE OF US ONE OF US

I watched the first two seasons, I'm just curious if s3 has more or less of the stuff I didn't like about the first two (clipped from upthread):

Finished s2, this is such a weird show. Obviously there's a lot to like, but half the time it feels like watching a WB show. When there's not kitchen yelling happening, it's often cloyingly sentimental with really corny dialogue (just shot in a gritty hand-held close-up that makes it feel arty).

Yeah idk, it just feels like there's a lot of padding around the good and more unique stuff in this show. The dialogue in the Carmy/Claire scenes and some of the Al-Anon monologues is kinda trite, and the montages of people ordering and eating food at restaurants and cafes is nice but could be out of any food/travel show (albeit with more tasteful music here). I really enjoyed the Copenhagen episode, but the random slice of life bits (like the injured cyclist) felt plucked out of other shows like High Maintenance and Atlanta.

xpost uh i misposted i thought i was on the dr who thread which is why none of that makes sense lool sorry

Why is it still billed as a comedy??

― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, June 27, 2024 9:43 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

30-minute Dramas aren't really a thing.

― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, June 27, 2024 9:57 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

also once a genre is determined it is just locked in, it rarely if ever changes, as far as streaming platforms go

― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, June 27, 2024 10:21 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

The Bear also competes in comedy categories at the Emmys and other awards shows, I suspect because the producers think it will be more competitive in comedy categories. It also used to be the case that a half-hour show was automatically considered by the Emmys as a comedy, and although that rule was changed a few years ago (before The Bear's first season), the fact that most half-hour shows *are* comedies probably helps them justify that decision.

look i’m 3 eps deep and there are for sure nourishing belly laughs to be had here
so its maybe
not NOT a comedy

Fak with the mirepoix broth? L M A O

Watched the first one, I liked it! Nice to have a reflective episode (with many beautiful shots) to contrast the craziness and tension that is surely coming later

The thing I like most about food shows is the drama of the food prep and the glory of the presentation at the end— the whole series could be like Episode 1 and I’d be happiest

Article in Slate claiming the show is bad; most of the issues taken are with the music supervision, which is interesting! I’ve never read a piece hate on music supervision so specifically before

https://slate.com/culture/2024/06/the-bear-season-3-fx-hulu-bad.html

i couldn’t disagree more with that piece and even though i read i think i can file this under “i’m not reading all that but i’m sorry that happened to you”

Heh I definitely agree about the music supervision.

I watched ep1 of the new season last night and the entire time was thinking about the scoring, it's an interesting brief to have the same four bar piano loop going for literally the entire episode, with almost zero dialogue. They did a pretty good job with slight variations so as to not make it interminable, and the strings following the rise and fall of the scenes.

I certainly didn't mind the repetition of the music, suited the flitting nature of the episode. felt very much like a dream

I thought it was something from The Social Network score at first, which it wasn't, but it *was* Reznor/Ross -- a track from Nine Inch Nails' Ghosts V.

episode 1 was a failed experiment imo. it felt like an overture, which is an interesting way to approach the first episode of a bingeable season of tv, but i only had time to watch one episode and was left pretty unsatisfied!

It was too long. At the first commercial break, I thought "wow, cool way to open the season," and then the rest of the episode was exactly like those first 10 minutes.

i thought it was a really unique thing to do in a tv show

and i found it so sad & really moving

but i am also deeply Bear-pilled so ymmv

which it wasn't, but it *was* Reznor/Ross -- a track from Nine Inch Nails' Ghosts V.

Ohhhh. Damn, those records keep giving for them. Score one for the music supervisors, minus one for the composition team. They must have edited to the music then rather than the reverse.

ohhh Ghosts V! … ok i lost track of the online releases at some point.

anyway it’s a fucking beautiful choice imo

I didn’t recognize it and thought it was original, and remarked “wow they really gave the composer a TASK with this episode”

They must have edited to the music then rather than the reverse.

Thought about this in episode 3 when Carmy is finishing plating the same dish five or six times, and it's absolutely timed with the classical piece underscoring it.

Jordan's WB comparison is coming to mind the more the season goes on (I'm on e5, and I'm sure there are more tonal shifts on the way). I wish the people outside the main characters were less "normies" and just had more interesting ways of having a conversation. (Imagining Carmy dating a female equivalent of Fak or S1 Richie.) It's not that they need to be ~colorful~, it just makes me think how Joe Swanberg (especially in Chicago-centric Easy) can make intimate conversations pop while still being credible, and this could use that.

I’m on episode 8 and i have been crying my face off, it’s so crazy. I have hella mom issues so this one hit me where I live

Jamie Lee Curtis really nails this personality type <3

and Abby Elliott is the busines, what a fucking g

I enjoyed season 2 but it did feel like a step down. Too many cameos (I didn't like the family dinner episode at all) and a turn towards sentimentality.

the bear video game actually looks pretty cool pic.twitter.com/pijrftMFDr

— Michael Kandel (@K_A_N_D_E_L) June 28, 2024

lmao

Ahahaha, holy shit

lol