As an example if Russell Brand becoming born again a grift? and he doesn't really believe it?
I don't think it is a grift. I think his conversion is genuine. But he hasn't converted to Catholicism, Catholicism has converted to Brand. It has been shaped into the form he prefers and he is a genuine believer in that.
― anvil, Friday, 24 May 2024 bookmarkflaglink
I want to pray for you, anvil
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 12:24 (two years ago)
^that's that good faith
― rob, Friday, 24 May 2024 12:35 (two years ago)
finally a lol!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 May 2024 12:53 (two years ago)
I don't think it is a grift. I think his conversion is genuine. But he hasn't converted to Catholicism, Catholicism has converted to Brand. It has been shaped into the form he prefers and he is a genuine believer in that.― anvil, Friday, 24 May 2024 bookmarkflaglinkPlease stop posting.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 24 May 2024 12:57 (two years ago)
has that ever worked?
― nashwan, Friday, 24 May 2024 13:38 (two years ago)
No but it’s always worth a try.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 24 May 2024 13:56 (two years ago)
If Bear Grylls was baptising that fucker it’s a dead cert he’s doing the Alpha course.
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 14:23 (two years ago)
The mad thing is believing this anything about anything other than Brand trying to deflect attention and court religious right sympathy (and funds) after that article the Times published about him. The worse thing is imagining that fundamentalists are the only true believers of any religion, as though the lunatic holdouts who don’t believe in Vatican 2 were closer to the word of God than the rest of us. Church traumatised generations of parents for literal centuries by telling them their babies were going to hell, before they changed course on that belief and now something that my parents were taught as fact in school was something I learned as a relic of the backward past. It is fucking nonsense to be a fundamentalist. It’s fucking absurd to believe in the sincere fanaticism of someone who is a bone-deep cynic.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 24 May 2024 14:38 (two years ago)
I wonder if Andrew Tate's conversion to Islam is entirely sincere too?
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 14:52 (two years ago)
We could leave arguments about ad hom out of the discussion altogether, I still think debating bad arguments simply lends them undeserved power, debate has been a poison word for a long time now
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:54 (two years ago)
you can't just dismiss Toby Young's thought provoking pitch for progressive eugenics, you've got to debate him throw the cunt out of the nearest top storey window after beating him senseless with a lump hammer!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 May 2024 16:07 (two years ago)
debate has been a poison word for a long time now
Debate is too strong a word, and I think here we're talking about interactions and conversations we might have, either in person or online, not public figures as such which is more unlikely (though not impossible I suppose)
I think we're increasingly seeing the writing off of non public figures as being bad faith, which is where I think the mistake is, mostly, as though nothing can be done, everything is a fait accompli. The good arguments don't argue for themselves, they need transmitters and advocates the same as any other arguments. If we collectively lose the ability to do this, I think thats a net negative
― anvil, Friday, 24 May 2024 16:27 (two years ago)
Once again, the people stanning for eugenics being exactly the sort of derp who’d fall foul of their own bullshit standards.
― steely flan (suzy), Friday, 24 May 2024 16:50 (two years ago)
The students keeping silent as someone like Braverman goes around asking about Hamas have it right.
No conversations with vermin, let them rot.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 16:59 (two years ago)
Otm
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 May 2024 17:36 (two years ago)
Talking to friends and acquaintances is different, I agree with you there anvil, but I don't "debate" my friends no matter how shitty their thoughts might be. I'll say what I believe if asked, I'm not in the conversion business
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 May 2024 17:41 (two years ago)
the actual relevant situation here is that your friend/relative is sharing approvingly an article by a British Right-Wing Pundit
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 24 May 2024 17:47 (two years ago)
roll your eyes, tell them to get tae fuck, talk about something else. avoid interaction if the habit gets unbearable
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:13 (two years ago)
From that video I'd say the lessons the younger crowd are learning is to simply cut contact with friends and family who turn into bigots.
My kind of people.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 19:27 (two years ago)
I admire anybody who's able to do that, fuck engaging with a nazi
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 May 2024 20:58 (two years ago)
Yup, its rough
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 May 2024 22:08 (two years ago)
Love this “actually the right are the REAL progressives” line being pushed everywhere
Just say you're voting tory pic.twitter.com/HwJPdFukRk— Generic English Teacher (@TabitaSurge) May 26, 2024
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Sunday, 26 May 2024 12:57 (two years ago)
tragic how these lifelong leftists have reluctantly been forced to side with fascists to protect their hatred-based rights
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 May 2024 14:09 (two years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOswByTWwAAbCBo?format=jpg&name=large
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 08:26 (two years ago)
Born again Christian? Born again cunt more like https://t.co/vrWA9lTQNV— Congolesa Rice (@judeinlondon) June 8, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 8 June 2024 11:50 (two years ago)
I guess Mikey has already "Surprise Surprise"d that shit
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 June 2024 11:52 (two years ago)
yeah, probably as him already doing fawning interviews with Desantis/Bannon is a predictable path to becoming a celeb MAGA grifter
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 8 June 2024 12:01 (two years ago)
... and facing potential rape charges in court as well, of course
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 8 June 2024 12:04 (two years ago)
Unless you're a 70s-era British TV star (and only some of them) there's seemingly no punishment for being a serial rapist at all. So don't get your hopes up about this twat!
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Saturday, 8 June 2024 13:11 (two years ago)
IIRC, London actually stopped existing for a few hundred years and changed location.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 8 June 2024 15:08 (two years ago)
...after the Romans left.
driving this morning and scanning across the radio channels there was Helen Lewis on Radio 4 and Matthew Parris on 4Extra (plus no sport of interest on 5 live / sports extra and Huey playing boring classic rock selections on 6 music) - there is no escaping these fuckers.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 8 June 2024 16:53 (two years ago)
The BBC's decision to relentlessly platform murderous transphobes is entirely neutral and accidental, no doubt
― i love a man in a unicorn (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 June 2024 17:07 (two years ago)
Helen Lewis is a sociopath.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Saturday, 8 June 2024 17:12 (two years ago)
The power of Christ should have compelled Brand to take an occasional shower.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 8 June 2024 23:46 (two years ago)
Not British but..
I am in London for the first time in 5 years. Unrecognizable. Grotesque huge modern buildings looming over historic neighborhoods. No sign of British culture except for vestigial pubs. Huge LED screens in formerly beautiful peaceful streets. People sleeping, living on the… https://t.co/kuyVds5Nr9— Dr Naomi Wolf (@naomirwolf) June 10, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 10:34 (two years ago)
Don't think there was much rough sleeping in London pre-2010 but its so long ago I can't remember.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 10:36 (two years ago)
I've been working in London since 2021 and just in these three years there has been a very noticeable increase in rough sleeping.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 10:38 (two years ago)
I moved here in 2009 and the number of visibly homeless people has skyrocketed since 2010.
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 10:41 (two years ago)
There are usually at least five and sometimes more than 10 homeless people on my walk from my front door to, say, Holborn tube.
― guillotine vogue (suzy), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 11:43 (two years ago)
it was bad in the mid 90's when I lived in Woolwich. I always characterised it as a London thing, like you'd never see the same level of homelessness in Manchester or Leeds back then. Now everywhere is like London. It's so easy to become homeless these days and it's not really a complex issue: Universal Credit is a benefits system that was conceived of and designed by evil cunts.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 11:46 (two years ago)
London has been a dump for years, in fact for the entire time I've lived here, but the levels of homelessness has gone through the roof. However, it's exactly the same in Glasgow which has probably never looked worse and more rundown.
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 11:52 (two years ago)
Lots of rough sleeping in central London in the 80s, 90s - remembering travelling to and from the suburbs into Charing Cross and seeing lots of rough sleepers under the station arches, long since cleaned up and cleared out.
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 11:57 (two years ago)
Yeah my timelines are shot but I'm sure went way down in the noughties and then shot up again sometime after 2010 - really noticeable by 2015 at the latest.
― woof, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 12:08 (two years ago)
Strangely occurring in tandem with Tory administrations then
― prog's nearly man (Matt #2), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 12:10 (two years ago)
Who'd have thought it?
― Poets Win Prizes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 12:20 (two years ago)
"We tried absolutely nothing to beat fascism. Lets elect them, then they will only beat themselves."
The last best hope against populism is to expose it to government https://t.co/DylV2rLRhV— Financial Times (@FT) June 11, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 13:40 (two years ago)
Genius.
― ILX: a violent left-wing mob who hate our country (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 13:49 (two years ago)
still calling fascism "populism" so they can continue with their horseshoe bollocks, fuck the lot of them.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 13:50 (two years ago)
I frequently Deliveroo diet cokes and mini magnums to my home when the Tesco is a 30 second walk away https://t.co/OHvYBIIH9y— Noa Hoffman (@hoffman_noa) June 12, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 15:11 (one year ago)