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That’s probably in the range of caffeine that’s considered unhealthy, esp if you’re also taking a stimulant. Certainly could be interfering with sleep, increasing anxiety and even worsening your adhd symptoms.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:07 (two years ago)

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Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:09 (two years ago)

Never thought about it making ADHD worse as it usually helps with that for me but I also have GAD so yes. All good points. I will think about this some more this weekend. Maybe the decaf isn't a bad idea.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:12 (two years ago)

I've quit again.

I think I've narrowed down the heartburn that seemed to come out of nowhere to the high acid light roast french press coffee I started drinking during the pandemic. I miss it a little, the ritual and the flavor, but green tea is working for me right now and heartburn sucks.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:18 (two years ago)

coffee is challenging for me

it's basically the only drug i take except for my prescriptions. i got high as fuck last night off some acetaminophen they prescribed me the last time i had my bits cut up. not, just, for the lulz... the pain from my accidentally giving myself a lip piercing monday has made it pretty hard for me to get through this week. i tend to avoid even OTC meds... in this case i got high and went on the sort of depressive spiral that leads my friends to start telling me they're worried about me

(if you're worried about me, sorry for worrying you, i'm going to be ok, i promise)

anyway the challenge with coffee is that i'm in kind of a state of monty burns homeostasis... the 20 pills a day are enough to let me almost function. caffeine... sometimes it gives me the energy to full-on function. sometimes downing my adderall with a cold brew sends me into a full-on panic attack. panic attacks aren't fun, but if i don't run the risk, i never get anything done at all. i kinda have gotten used to it. anyway. most days it's a large cold brew in the am and a mountain dew at lunch. i should probably change the mountain dew, those things are fucking disgusting. i only drank them because i was addicted to diet major melon, which they fucking stopped making.

i don't always sleep great but mostly that's the nightmares, which have nothing to do with my caffeine intake. (seriously, i'm going to be ok, i just gotta deal with some bullshit sometimes)

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:19 (two years ago)

fwiw enbb i find your situation re: caffeine kind of relatable :)

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:19 (two years ago)

you got high af off acetaminophen (tylenol)?

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:22 (two years ago)

x-post - I should prob cop to also drinking between .5l and 2l of diet coke every day on top of the coffee.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:35 (two years ago)

But I'm just normal like this! I'm not running around all speedy all the time. If I cut down am I just not going to be able to function? I don't know who I am if I'm not overly caffeinated at all times.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:36 (two years ago)

cool it turbo tax

calstars, Friday, 10 May 2024 13:50 (two years ago)

lol

I just made an americano. I will stop there and at least it's not espresso?

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 May 2024 14:17 (two years ago)

Also depends on what you call a double. If it's just pressing the button twice, it's going to be more like a lungo and you're actually having five coffees per day, not ten.

You can calculate your true caffeine daily intake by weighing the amount of ground coffee you use per cup, divide by a hundred, and multiply by number of cups.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 10:03 (two years ago)

xpost yes it is! an Americano is an espresso with water added! but there's nothing particularly special about espresso vs pourover or whatever i don't think, in terms of caffeine intake

I like Nabozo's totally unit-less freeform maths

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 10:09 (two years ago)

lol duh of course it is. This machine is some crappy thing where you push buttons so I don't actually see what's happening. I see what you mean about the double and wondered but, again, it's behind the scenes. There's an option for single espresso and one for double but I have no idea what that actually means. WFH and have had 2 coffees. Just normal ones. Because I know you're all wondering.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 10:38 (two years ago)

I've also been drinking caffeine free diet coke. I'm not happy about it but I'm doing it.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 10:39 (two years ago)

xp: I suggest using either the keel, troy pond, pood, corgee, or cullingey.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 11:16 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...

https://www.seriouseats.com/the-case-for-bad-coffee

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 1 June 2024 16:54 (two years ago)

ha, I really enjoyed that, thank you

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 1 June 2024 16:57 (two years ago)

Fresh diner coffee will always have a place in my heart. I also have always liked Chock Full o’ Nuts, and I have nice memories of the first jet lagged, frothy cup of Nescafé with sugar.

I like the simplicity of my one cup pour over system though.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:25 (two years ago)

i grew up on instant though i am not really nostalgic for it tbh but i do enjoy diner coffee

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:30 (two years ago)

I believe it was in orbit who said that bad coffee is really its own beverage category: “hot brown liquid,” and sometimes that is all you need ( or want)

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:35 (two years ago)

If you add chickory to bad coffee it becomes a little better. If I ran a diner I would do this

calstars, Saturday, 1 June 2024 18:30 (two years ago)

Sorry I meant cinnamon

calstars, Saturday, 1 June 2024 18:31 (two years ago)

I also grew up on instant, plus the same supermarket brands the writer mentions, but it's difficult to imagine regressing back to that stuff as one's daily intake. Like, really difficult. Diner coffee is fine if fresh (though I'm seldom in diners anymore).

Josefa, Saturday, 1 June 2024 21:24 (two years ago)

Baristas who think“Room for milk” is like a centimeter of space at the top just kill me

calstars, Saturday, 1 June 2024 21:28 (two years ago)

Chock full has vanished here as of the pandemic. Was my go-to for cold brew partly bcuz i remember my parents, when it became available in Cali in the late 1970s, acting as it was holy grail for coffee. They otherwise brewed Yuban. I just got a 3# tin of Kirkland ground for my next cold brews. . .

gneiss, gneiss, very gneiss (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 1 June 2024 21:49 (two years ago)

Chock full of deez nutz

calstars, Saturday, 1 June 2024 21:50 (two years ago)

I believe it was in orbit who said that bad coffee is really its own beverage category: “hot brown liquid,” and sometimes that is all you need ( or want)
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie)

Did ***I*** say that?? How odd. Maybe! There's definitely good bad coffee and bad good coffee.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Saturday, 1 June 2024 23:15 (two years ago)

instant coffee tastes best out of a styrofoam cup walking on a dilapidated pier on a cloudy day

brimstead, Saturday, 1 June 2024 23:26 (two years ago)

Great piece.

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 June 2024 23:41 (two years ago)

The best coffee is any that’s accompanied by a smoke

calstars, Saturday, 1 June 2024 23:58 (two years ago)

xps I usually come across Chock Full at places like Costco and BJ's rather than the grocery store, and yes, I cannot see the name without thinking of Dre or this NewsRadio moment for that matter.

birdistheword, Saturday, 1 June 2024 23:59 (two years ago)

What is the type of person who would want this Willy Wonka-esque Stag kettle I just got an ad for

https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/440965724_944182827713582_7332153558600439641_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=LsgqPSZuFjYQ7kNvgE3E57C&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AYBoO5mg4iDxjfxBWTsoWeo0hThD-0LvrXmuykJp3uIMGA&oe=66654C13

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 21:02 (two years ago)

I don't love that specific color combination but I have nothing against a brightly colored kettle in theory.

default damager (lukas), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 23:58 (two years ago)

I like it! definitely know some people who could fit it into their kitchen style

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 5 June 2024 00:23 (two years ago)

isn't that more for the electric kettle thread?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 00:24 (two years ago)

just got around to checking out the piece upthread, great read, thanks

sknybrg, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 01:20 (two years ago)

Yes, great piece, quincie.

Reminds me of the big Chock Full O Nuts painted sign that was in New York, not sure if it's still there or when

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Chock_fullof_nuts.jpg?20120831120154

Horn & Hardart, the venerable automat brand that featured in so many 1930s-1960s movies about life in New York City is testing the market for bringing back the automat and starting with branded coffee.

https://hornandhardart.com/blogs/blog/reviving-horn-hardart-why-automat-coffee

Joan Crawford drinking coffee at an automat in Sadie McKee (1943)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FMv2Oqko5Q

felicity, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 07:30 (two years ago)

I’d welcome the return of the automat! Not sure anyone under the age of 50 knows what it is tho

calstars, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 11:51 (two years ago)

I really liked that article, but though I don't see eye-to-eye with the author about coffee. When I talk to people about coffee, the first thing I usually ask is if they drink it black. If they put sweetener and/or whatever type of milk, then I know we're looking for a slightly different experience.

I will say that I've always repped for diner coffee and I agree with the author that I have far more memorable positive experiences drinking improvised whatever-is-around coffee than high-priced hipster stuff, which when I travel almost always tends to be afternoon coffee and therefore a bad idea (for me). I always enjoy the first morning cup more than the lunchtime cup if I'm honest. I don't know why I still insist on having that second cup. Maybe it's addiction.

beard papa, Wednesday, 5 June 2024 19:44 (two years ago)

one month passes...

I tried this new thing called Cometeer - they basically flash freeze supposedly premium coffee into little pucks and then you just pour hot water on them to get a cup of coffee. I wanted to see if it might make a good office coffee option since I hate the keurig and theres no good coffee place near my office.

Verdict: not really worth it. They came out to about $2.50 per cup (at the 4-pack price, maybe cheaper if you can order a larger one). The taste is somewhere in between instant and fresh. It’s a notch better than the Starbucks Via Colombian, which is the best instant I’ve tried, but it still has this slight instant-tasting staleness to it. And each pod only makes a 6-8 oz cup. So you’re not paying that much below a NYC price for an 8oz coffee from a Joe or coffee project type place and you’re getting a significantly worse cup. Makes much more sense for me to just bring extra pour over brew in a yeti.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 29 July 2024 12:30 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

Ordered a cappuccino at this cafe, it came in a massive, wide, low cup. Beyond a latte, this is coffee soup.

default damager (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2024 18:46 (one year ago)

STarbucks espresso really does smell liek the store when you brou it at home

| (Latham Green), Monday, 12 August 2024 22:02 (one year ago)

I just got back from Korea and I was surprised how big coffee was there. (I spent a week in Seoul and traveled around the country for the other week, so it wasn't just Seoul.) I don't really drink alcohol anymore so it was kind of nice to see so many coffee shops instead of bars. Not expensive, and it was much needed to help cope with a busy schedule and jet lag.

FWIW, I highly recommend this place if you're in the area: https://www.instagram.com/khakimoon_official/

It was next to our car rental place, which is the only reason why I found it, and not only is it a beautiful, little shop, the coffee I had was amazing. There were several other coffee options surrounding it, but the presentation drew me in. (One of the options was a Nata O Bica, which has other locations in Seoul, but I only went to this one and they make a DAMN good Portuguese egg tart, so I highly recommend that as well.)

birdistheword, Tuesday, 13 August 2024 01:52 (one year ago)

(just to clarify, went to Khaki Moon for the coffee, then when I walked back to the car rental place, I stopped at the Nata O Bica for a tart.)

birdistheword, Tuesday, 13 August 2024 01:54 (one year ago)

I should add, besides having so many coffee shops (there was at least two or three between every intersection where I was staying in Seoul), further outside of Seoul, it wasn't unusual to see coffee shops with two stories, sometimes three. Starbucks even has a presence in Korea and apparently they do crazy business there. 70% of the country is forested mountains, so depending on where you are, you could have a fantastic view while sipping on some coffee.

Really lovely country, I can't emphasize how wonderful it was to be there. I was also highly impressed at how diligent they were about recycling, which extends to the coffee shops as well. Most of the country's trash is actually recycled or composted, with a projected rate of 80% by 2026 - pretty mind-boggling! Rationally it makes sense - when you're a relatively small peninsula, you probably have far less resources to waste.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 13 August 2024 02:07 (one year ago)

cooffee is essential to a productive society

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 14 August 2024 13:32 (one year ago)

Just out of curiosity, I wondered what it's like to get coffee in North Korea, and there was actually a blog entry on it from a German tourist's perspective. I haven't read the whole blog, but it's sent my head spinning that there's an agency dedicated to traveling to the least desirable destinations in the world.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 14 August 2024 22:36 (one year ago)

Correction, he's Irish born. (The brief reference to Berlin at the bottom threw me off.)

birdistheword, Wednesday, 14 August 2024 22:38 (one year ago)

Dubbed North Korea’s first “hipster cafe”

love the idea of N Korean hipsters

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 August 2024 22:43 (one year ago)


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