Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

i will opt for a hybrid as long as i live, if/when the shit hits the fan, electric vehicles are going to me rendered useless pretty quickly— just ask the rich folks who horde diesel powered vehicles and own bunkers.

going to be*

Venezuela Becomes First Modern Country to Lose All Its Glaciers
https://explorersweb.com/venezuela-loses-last-glacier/

Just v sad, reading that

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/03/opinion/heat-technology-climate.html

can't help but feel that no power is the end of everything. fires, exploding transformers and power stations. lines down. if enough of it happens at once when its really hot...

like my favorite bad apocalypse show Revolution only way hotter outside.

Yeah

More than 250 deaths due to heatwave in UP, Bihar and Orissa, it includes 25 polling officials ; 22 killed as bus falls in a gorge in Jammu ; eight newborn babies killed in a fire breakout in Delhi. The lives of ordinary people that have no meaning

— Rana Ayyub (@RanaAyyub) June 1, 2024

strange way phrase it. maybe their lives are dismissed and devalued in a political context, but those lives had a social context where they held plenty of meaning.

I was going to excuse the odd phrasing until I saw that she's a writer for the Washington Post and New Yorker.

a good example of a writer reaching for an 'effect' that sounded good in the moment they wrote it, but they should have considered it a little longer before committing to it

I don't understand what a bus crash has to do with global warming?

what was your point in posting this here other than to get aimless to respond on the merits of the prose (in which case congrats?)

which 'you' are you talking to?

there was more in that tweet than the bus thing, you know

Not sure what's going on in the comments.

I don't understand what a bus crash has to do with global warming?

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 bookmarkflaglink

What don't you understand about "250 killed during heatwave" across three Indian states.

Aimless gonna be Aimless, not my problem

so the relevance of the tweet to this thread was just the bit before the first semi-colon? the other stuff is unrelated but you communicate via links to tweets? or am I missing something?

It seems you've read the prose of Ed Zitron and its broken you today? Maybe lie down for a bit?

I didn’t read the zitron piece. Gave up on him years ago.

The fire was caused by a welding accident and the bus crash was caused by a bus crash. Those deaths were unrelated to climate change. If her point in relating them is that live if not valued then sure. If it’s that climate change is killing a lot of people then not sure how the other stuff is relevant. Don’t care really. Wonder what your point is though. Tend to assume it’s to get aimless to respond most of the time.

Lol how did I know Aimless was gonna respond to that tweet?

He is not the onky person who throws tantrums over tweets. You just did that.

Still got no idea what your point is.

"Wonder what your point is though."

To save you any more pain: Scott just posted a link last night looking at how heatwaves could potentially kill people where electricity (and aircon capacity) could go off. In the piece it mentions many people go without this anyway, and I saw the tweet from India that talked about heatwaves killing people just now, and yes the other incidents linked into the conclusion of how little ordinary people matter. Aimless and you both tried to rationalise the somewhat emotional conclusion xp

eh I think you’ve misunderstood me but at least I know what your point is now.

I've understood you enough please don't try and say more. Thanks.

hard to follow people who don’t also communicate solely in tweet embeds I’m sure

You struggle reading a blog.

what can I say, I think you post bad links. afaict that’s all you do here. I’ll mute you want and i wish you all the best in your goals (content aggregation?)

You struggled to make a simple link, from what was posted yesterday, and had a tantrum about another poster's reaction. I don't give a shit what you do or think about what I do on here.

But yes I wish you all the best (with your reading comprehension?)

you don't give a shit what anyone does or thinks about what you do on here.

Speaking of posters who throw tantrums..

I've understood you enough please don't try and say more. Thanks.

lol at you not with you

JD going off the deep end here

like, you've always been a dick but lately u seem completely disconnected from any sort of consensus reallity

sorry "JD" = xyzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Tweet’s point being made very nicely itt

and ofc it’s a load of white people queuing up to tell xyzzzz__ he’s not discussing points about climate change in India accurately

lol at you not with you

― z_tbd, Tuesday, 4 June 2024 bookmarkflaglink

At leaat you are nit cluelessly crying about 'AI'

like, you've always been a dick but lately u seem completely disconnected from any sort of consensus reallity

― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 June 2024 bookmarkflaglink

A bunch of ppl wanting to load off in issues with my 'posting style' as a response to a tweet reporting death due to a heatwave and you are telling me I'm not connected to reality?

"Lol at you not with you"

A decade ago, scientists had estimated that the chances of the planet warming 1.5 degrees C by 2020 were nearly zero. Now, the probability of that happening by 2028 is an estimated 8 in 10.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2024/06/05/global-temperatures-1-5-celsius-record-year/

And here is some more on how the high temperatures might've impacted on the vote.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/05/india-election-results-heat-bjp-cllmate-crisis

https://i.imgur.com/zsZt5YO.png

https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/during-year-of-extremes-carbon-dioxide-levels-surge-faster-than-ever

Ralph Keeling, director of the Scripps CO2 program that manages the institution’s 56-year-old measurement series, noted that year-to-year increase recorded in March 2024 was the highest for both Scripps and NOAA in Keeling Curve history.

“Not only is CO2 now at the highest level in millions of years, it is also rising faster than ever,” said Keeling.

90+ degrees on the last day of spring, just like always. nothing to see here

https://i.imgur.com/32mC0De.png

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/interactive/2024/louisiana-sea-wall-gas-facility-flooding/
(gift link: https://wapo.st/3zq8niG)

The marshes that blanket this pancake-flat parish south of New Orleans stretch for miles, strewn with small streams that flow into the Gulf of Mexico. A lone four-lane road goes south past a Navy air base, an idle industrial site, a coal export terminal and a handful of small storm-battered communities.

Then, suddenly, a gigantic facility rises from the wetlands. Cranes dot the skyline. They hover over crews that are installing a jumble of pipes, pumps, storage tanks and two 720-megawatt power plants — equipment needed to freeze natural gas into a liquid form so it can be shipped around the world.

It might seem like a risky location for a $21 billion liquefied natural gas plant, given this region’s ferocious hurricanes and sea levels that are rising faster than almost anywhere else on the planet. But the company building this plant, Arlington, Va.-based Venture Global, says it has an answer to these threats: a 26-foot-high steel sea wall that surrounds the 632-acre site, twice the size of Washington’s National Mall.

i think we should give the rising fortresses a fair chance!

new all-time record in las vegas today: 120 F, beating the previous mark of 117

i’m sure the local power authority was begging the casinos to limit their peak-hour a/c usage

- Fed Chair's testimony before the house Jul 11, 2024.
- Excerpt from almost the last question after two days and more than six hours of testimony.

Congress: In 2021 you were part of the FSOC report on climate related Financial Risk that for the first time identified climate risk as an emerging threat to climate stability. Do you still agree with that conclusion?

Fed Chair: The conclusion being what again?

Congress Person: That climate change was an emerging threat to US financial stability.

Fed Chair: Yeah.

Congress: I raise that because I've been troubled by some of the letters we've written by this April Bloomberg report that said:
number 1: that fed officials were pressuring the basel committee to make disclosures of bank's transition plans optional and they succeeded,
number 2: that the Fed OCC and FDIC were pushing to limit implementation of the basel committee's climate risk management principals to remove financed emissions, and
number 3: that the US, unlike other countries did not propose that any of its banks be subject to an analysis of how they incorporated climate in their credit risk assessments.
Have any representatives from your agency attempted to weaken the basel committee's work on climate risk including by expressing concern about the basel committee overstepping its mandate with respect to its climate work?

Fed Chair: I guess I would say it this way. The FED does not have an mandate of fostering an energy transition or dealing with climate change. Some of the northern European banks feel that they do. They actually have that. It is in their mandate either explicitly or implicitly but we don't.

Congress: But if we agree that climate change is an emerging threat to the stability of the banking system. Are you saying you are not acting on it because you don't have the authority or you're not acting on it because you disagree with what you said in 2021?

Fed Chair: When you say and I agree there's an emerging threat to financial stability, that's over time. I think looking to the banking agencies to lead the fight on climate change is a big mistake. I think it is a job for elected people. we don't have that mandate in the united states. We can do a very limited thing which is make sure that the institutions we supervise are aware of and can manage those risks. We are not going to be the ones who are forcing them to adopt plans to transition and that kind of thing. That is just not going to happen through the banking agencies without a law change.

Congress: So if it is the view of the rest of the world that climate change is a Financial Risk and we're going to regulate our banks is it the view of the FED that the US GSIB's should not be required to report (about this risk)?

Fed Chair: You know again, we're not going to be climate policy makers at the FED. We are not going to do that. We don't have that mandate. A key to our independence is that we stick to the job you've given us and the idea that we should discover climate and say we're going to lead the fight on climate. If we are going to do things like that we should be part of the treasury department.

Congress: Well, so to be clear, no one's under the illusions that you're the EPA. But I spoke with Janet Yellen about this yesterday. We have multiple states where the insurance industry is collapsing. Something like, as you know well, something like a third to 40% of US wealth is tied up in real estate and okay, US homeowners are not GSIBs but in the 2008 financial crisis we had risk that moved out of the GSIBs onto other entities' balance sheets and we said, 'well we're not responsible because it's an insurance company'. Well, we fixed that. You do have an mandate if there's systemic risk so the question is if we know that risk is moving through the system is the FSOC monitoring that risk or is the FSOC [of the opinion] that, 'if I'm not allowed to look at it, I'm not going to look at it. It is someone else's problem'. Because that somebody else is the person sitting here. Right. We're going to be accountable if that risk, when those chickens come home to roost.

Fed Chair: The banks know their risks pretty well and you see the banks and the insurance companies pulling back from lending in coastal areas and things like that.

Congress: No I agree. But where are they offloading that risk to? We've seen them putting it onto Fanny and Freddie. We've seen Fanny and Freddie try and put it on the reinsurance industry. ***The risk doesn't go away.***

Fed Chair: We don't regulate them.

Jeez. Thank you for posting that.