50 years ago today
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 April 2024 11:22 (four months ago) link
will head to my local portuguese cafe-bar for lunch :)
― imago, Thursday, 25 April 2024 11:48 (four months ago) link
hopefully the proprietor isn't a salazar fan (i suspect he isn't)
― imago, Thursday, 25 April 2024 11:50 (four months ago) link
Wish him a happy 25th and find out :)
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:13 (four months ago) link
After an initial "Oh yes, I didn't know it was the 50th" and an initial "I was a little boy in South Africa then, wasn't a big deal to us", uncorked a resounding "all it did was create all these bloody corrupt governments!" x_x
Cited Jose Socrates. I nodded and smiled. Not my area of expertise. But...hmm
― imago, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:25 (four months ago) link
Anyone running a small customer-facing business has at least a 60% chance of being a reactionary crank, regardless of nationality.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:31 (four months ago) link
Sounds like a Chega voter all right!
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:51 (four months ago) link
Happy 50th!
I was in Porto a couple of weeks ago having a marvellous time. That is, until a full-on (and pretty terrfiying) ne0 n4z1 protest started taking place right outside our apartment window. earlier in the day we'd also spotted a totally separate anti-abortion march going through the city. no it won't do
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:03 (four months ago) link
Sad stuff. Friends back home are mobilizing against it and I feel a bit of guilt over not being there to contribute...not that things are great here either.
I do think (hope?) that the anti-abortion stuff is gonna turn more ppl off these fash wankers than anything else.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:51 (four months ago) link
Damn. I'll be there in a few weeks (Lisbon > Madeira > Porto > ???), excited.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:44 (four months ago) link
lisbon is great, just so great
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:07 (four months ago) link
I really loved my mere week in Northern Portugal, want to go back and see Lisbon, Evora, etc.
― Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:48 (four months ago) link
Where did you go in the north besides Porto?
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 25 April 2024 16:53 (four months ago) link
The Douro valley, Vila Real, and Coimbra (which isn’t really that north)
― Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 April 2024 18:21 (four months ago) link
Oh nice, we're definitely planning on Douro and I want to go to Coimbra too.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 25 April 2024 18:39 (four months ago) link
We only stopped in Coimbra for lunch (and unluckily it was graduation day or something and packed with berobed students & their families), but it seemed really nice. I'd recommend this place if veg/an appeals: https://veg.fangas.pt/home-en/
― rob, Thursday, 25 April 2024 19:44 (four months ago) link
My wife is vegetarian, thanks!
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 25 April 2024 19:46 (four months ago) link
I have Lisbon vegetarian recommendations too...just give me a sec
― rob, Thursday, 25 April 2024 19:49 (four months ago) link
I'm having trouble figuring out the names of some places we went, but I can say:
Ao 26 was the best strictly vegan place I went to, and what's cool about it is they do vegan versions of some of the trad Portuguese stuff you otherwise can't eat (e.g., francesinha).
Senhor Uva is good too (both of these are on the fancy side though), though it's tapas & wine and we were all still a little hungry at the end of the meal -- in contrast, Ao 26 was very filling.
But mostly I'd just say that it's easier to be vegetarian, even vegan, there than people who haven't been recently will tell you. Even down in Faro I got by okay
― rob, Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:14 (four months ago) link
Excellent, tysm!
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:19 (four months ago) link
my pleasure! we were there last May, which is a great time to visit
― rob, Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:23 (four months ago) link
rob, I went to Fangas Veg too! It's great, and the people are really nice!
― Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:34 (four months ago) link
that's true, they were nice! there were also beautiful lace scarves hung up all over town the day we were there
― rob, Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:49 (four months ago) link
I went to Portugal in 2005, a friend was involved in a garage rock festival in a place called Barreiro, I stayed in Lisbon and took the ferry across there each day. On the last day we had dinner with one of the bands playing, which meant I ate fish pie with Billy Childish, not a lifelong dream, but still very cool times. After the bands had all played I hung out with them until the sun was coming up, then made my way back to the ferry, there was literally one every 15 minutes but for some reason I decided to drunkenly run to catch the one that was leaving, tripped over a bit of pavement and landed straight on my face. Somebody helped me up and I said "am I ok?" and they looked at me grimly and shook their head. The ferry people called an ambulance and half an hour later they had taken the stones out of my face and sewn me up, I still have a scar on my chin but thankfully that's all - though for the next two weeks a few people asked me if I'd been in a motorbike accident and I had to say "no I just fell on my face." Anyway it's still a good memory overall and I think about it any time I see the (not disfiguring) scar in the mirror.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:57 (four months ago) link
Just found out Nuno Espírito Santo is from Barreiro, nice!
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 25 April 2024 20:59 (four months ago) link
xp That sounds like something I would've done in 2005
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 April 2024 21:35 (four months ago) link
https://keithfullertonwhitman.bandcamp.com/album/lisbon
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 25 April 2024 21:54 (four months ago) link
people have had more lethal encounters with billy the kid tbf
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:35 (four months ago) link
Fwiw it's my dream to emigrate to Portugal one day for some reason. I have been three times since 2018, falling in love with the country on my first visit. Can't wait to go back again
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Friday, 26 April 2024 00:05 (four months ago) link
huh.. I've been to Spain but never Portugal, maybe I should go check it out
but I drink more sherry than port
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 April 2024 00:07 (four months ago) link
Enjoyed this piece, and I don't read Jacobin that often.
https://jacobin.com/2024/04/portugal-revolution-military-coup-anticolonialism
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 April 2024 09:52 (four months ago) link
There's a bust of Willy Brandt in Porto, somewhere near Serralves, whose presence is explained by the SPD intervention that article mentions.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 26 April 2024 11:00 (four months ago) link