US Politics, April 2024: "Are You Better Off Today Than You Were <Checks Notes> Four Years Ago?"

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Not sure I buy this. I’d guess that MAGA ppl want Trump to rise to power and all their political bad guys to be vanquished and pwned. That’s not the same thing as chaos.
― tobo73,

It's not zero-sum; it can be both. We can go back to 2010 where the NYT and other publications interviewed voters who wanted legislators to gum up the works.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:39 (two years ago)

xp - The constitution leaves it to the congress to devise the rules under which it operates, so it depends on what rules have been adopted. They can change.

fyi, usually at the start of each new congress the proposed rules are brought to the floor as the first order of business after electing a house speaker and a senate majority leader. The rules were drawn up by the Rules committees of each chamber and whichever party controls each chamber controls that committee and gets to tailor them to suit themselves.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:45 (two years ago)

So even if there were, say, 20 members of congress left, they could change the rules to say that 20 members of congress is all that is needed to pass laws?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:51 (two years ago)

The rules are always going to define a quorum, so (theoretically) if the membership of congress somehow fell to the point where a quorum was no longer possible, then voting on legislation would (theoretically) be suspended until a quorum was achieved. But I doubt this problem will ever arise outside of imagining it.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:58 (two years ago)

So if a congress, for example, constantly churned through speakers and barely participated in its constitutional duties, while wasting time on bullshit and theater, there's no remedy or way around it until the next election?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:02 (two years ago)

bingo!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:04 (two years ago)

I nominate myself for speaker

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:09 (two years ago)

lmao

Biden says if Trump's Truth Social stock 'drops any lower he might do better under my tax plan than his'

— Danny Kemp (@dannyctkemp) April 16, 2024

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:09 (two years ago)

oh snap

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:41 (two years ago)

Relatedly, this is amazing.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:47 (two years ago)

"Spooning dogs" is exactly how I imagine Trump's sex life.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:48 (two years ago)

Not sure I buy this. I’d guess that MAGA ppl want Trump to rise to power and all their political bad guys to be vanquished and pwned. That’s not the same thing as chaos.

Not 'chaos' but an ineffectual federal government because the feds in their view only obstruct their goals. If you're the local car lot magnate, in your view the damn regulatin' feds can only stand in your way (and lock up your dear leader and possibly you if you didn't wear a mask on a certain day in January).

Up to 2016 Republican politicians could walk the line of capitalism needing structure and a functional state and their hooting masses of primary voters who played tapes of Reagan saying "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" to help them sleep but the hooting reactionaries got too much power.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:51 (two years ago)

xpost This probably explains that image:

And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
--Matthew 15:27

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:51 (two years ago)

"Jesus Fed My Designer Dog"

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:59 (two years ago)

Up the Irish:

The foreperson who was just selected — that’s juror one, the de facto leader of the group who will likely help steer deliberations — works in sales and enjoys the outdoors. He is originally from Ireland, but will help decide the former American president’s fate.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:02 (two years ago)

there's enough detail about that guy that his name will be published before end of day

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:03 (two years ago)

My first thought was 'AI-generated comedy image'. But then I looked at the hands and must conclude that it was lovingly painted by a true believer.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:03 (two years ago)

yeah why are they publishing so much info

a (waterface), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:05 (two years ago)

treating it like a game show

a (waterface), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:05 (two years ago)

"Works in sales and enjoys the outdoors"
Swipes right

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:08 (two years ago)

I read that New York law is not like other states in terms of juror privacy, so it can vary.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:08 (two years ago)

I was listening to a former AUSA who basically said all these jurors will be known to the public (if you look for it) within the next few days.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:25 (two years ago)

Quite a media diet:

The first six jurors have been selected for Trump's hush money trial.

The foreperson is a man originally from Ireland who now lives in West Harlem and works in sales. He gets his news from The New York Times, the Daily Mail, Fox News and MSNBC.

— Zach Schonfeld (@ZachASchonfeld) April 16, 2024

jaymc, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:03 (two years ago)

That sounds suspiciously like someone who wants to be on that jury.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:06 (two years ago)

"Good information on both sides ..."

nickn, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:07 (two years ago)

Mr. Bothsides

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:08 (two years ago)

Now I’m falling asleep
And I’m going to trial

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:12 (two years ago)

Looks like they’ve got Matt Drudge on the jury

paisley got boring (Eazy), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:33 (two years ago)

The amount of info provided re: each juror just to goose the engagement that poster gets is a great way to set up invalidating the entire trial to those in the losing side to bang on about

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 22:33 (two years ago)

wtf kind of irish gets his news from the daily mail

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 23:30 (two years ago)

kingfish otm, this is gonna be a mistrial and the fascist takeover will continue as intended

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 23:41 (two years ago)

trump will be made speaker of the house and mike johnson's head will be put on the end of a stick and trump will declare all trials officially phony and very bad. end of movie.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 23:55 (two years ago)

If the Tarzan Yell Freedom!!!! Caucus bozos keep up their hijinks all through this election year they might manage to get themselves so widely hated by the nation at large that the Republicans lose control of the House.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 00:49 (two years ago)

it only takes, what, three seats lost? we can do it!

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 00:56 (two years ago)

Thomas Massie is such a total ding dong. Between him and James Comer, they must have to use a bunch of sippy cups at House Ky GOP meetings.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 07:14 (two years ago)

Dems massively outraising Republicans. even in Texas (!) it's close. is this because a bunch of R donations are getting gobbled up by the Trump campaign or are they just not getting donors?

https://i.imgur.com/QE7Ovf8.jpeg

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:46 (two years ago)

whoa @ Sherrod Brown's figures

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:48 (two years ago)

Rick Perlstein was interviewed for a new PBS documentary on William F. Buckley, and he's not happy with the final product. (Surprising footnote: he's apparently a Henry Rollins fan!)

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:10 (two years ago)

Great piece.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:10 (two years ago)

Made me want to know more about Willis Carto, who is only familiar to me as a reference (William Gibson named a character in Neuromancer after him).

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:18 (two years ago)

Re: donations: you can’t get blood from a stone. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/01/trump-republican-small-donations-problems/

President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:28 (two years ago)

That Rick Perlstein post is nice, and matches up with Danny Bessner says in this conversation on “Time to Say Goodbye” last week, that American liberalism from the post-war onwards has to continually prop up respective reactionary types because it can’t function without some position or some cohort to be _against_.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:12 (two years ago)

"We need a functioning Republican Party."

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:17 (two years ago)

we need a Republican Party and its convention needs to be held on NY Subway train tracks

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:18 (two years ago)

all kinds of hilarity in the House Oversight committee today

Wow Raskin and Comer are going at it pic.twitter.com/JalLGlLiF4

— Acyn (@Acyn) April 17, 2024

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:39 (two years ago)

Comer is like smooth(er) brained Newt

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:48 (two years ago)

there's a bunch of other clips out there that are equally entertaining

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:48 (two years ago)

it's wild, they're acting like 4th graders. but Raskin is right! they have nothing!

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:17 (two years ago)

I recall a time when even the biggest fools in Congress knew enough not to act like three-year-olds throwing mashed potatoes at the dinner table.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:26 (two years ago)

re: fundraising...are actblue and the DNC doing a good job raising out of state funds for these contests? I've removed myself from every single dem mailing list so now I don't know how much they are pestering people.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:27 (two years ago)


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