another maniacal Armond White review, this time "Fahrenheit 9/11"

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Apparently Armond doesn't subscribe to Netflix.

He would argue that you can't review a film you haven't seen on a theater screen, which is an ideal I subscribe to (that is not practicable for all but a few people).

I think saying that "Oscars matter" sentence OUT LOUD and getting something short of a punch is good fortune.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:35 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i forgot--it's not like they were at a meeting of professional film critics.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:36 (sixteen years ago)

seeing a lot of movies in the theater is really hard if not impossible b/c of terrible distributing of smaller films, and yet, asking for screeners to give these films their due means you're "in bed with hollywood"?

goole, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:39 (sixteen years ago)

that's bullshit, morbs. if i was in a meeting and someone said that, you can just have a lol and debate their weird point (if she even said that, and her point was in fact weird) instead of assuming the worst in people. guy seems like a sociopath.

omar little, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:40 (sixteen years ago)

anyway if armond white really feels that way about theater screens i wonder why he bothers to write up essays for criterion on occasion, because only a fuckin philistine would watch the movie on a small screen.

omar little, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:41 (sixteen years ago)

goole: yes, bcz they are promotional devices geared at awards/promotion. That's his position.

srsly, I wouldn't frame it that way, but the serious cinema conversation from November thru Oscars was not utterly monopolized by the Trophy Carousel 30, 20, even 10 years ago. It makes me ill.

well, in the case of CCs, you are NOT going to see the films any other way unless you live near a rep venue.

JOEKS re the punching.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:44 (sixteen years ago)

don't hit me, dogg!

omar little, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:44 (sixteen years ago)

yeah well that's a dumb position. who gives a shit what they're geared at, if they're you're only way of seeing a film, watch it. any individual film print is basically a tool to get 9.50 out of me anyway, so what

goole, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:47 (sixteen years ago)

i'm a lover, not a sociopath. xp

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:48 (sixteen years ago)

ha, Lisa Schwarzbaum is horrible tho

velko, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

Armond has gone on the record basically saying you can not be a cinephile (in America, at any rate) unless you live in New York.

― sir-mounter (Eric H.), Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:18 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

did any of u guys see that documentary about cinephiles in new york - Cinemania, i think? anyway AW reminds me of the crazy broad from that movie

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:53 (sixteen years ago)

always wanted to see that movie!
maybe i'll go hunt for it

heavin' flho (s1ocki), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:57 (sixteen years ago)

acc to James Redd, that "crazy broad" just died.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:58 (sixteen years ago)

Was it Orly Taitz?

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:59 (sixteen years ago)

We should a RIP thread.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:59 (sixteen years ago)

everyone in it was pretty depressing but she was the least grounded, most insane seeming one... that poor-ass monster.

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:01 (sixteen years ago)

Is it worth watching? Is she the really old with the glasses?

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:09 (sixteen years ago)

old lady

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:10 (sixteen years ago)

no, she wasn't that old iirc, just kinda middle aged and wiry catlady-ish... when they show her apartment though it's terrifying. she had a thing about keeping all her ticket stubs, and there's a story about when she physically attacked an usher who dared to tear her stub in half

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)

Jesus that's bonkers.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)

Roberta Hill, a former mail carrier in her early 60's, lives in an apartment crammed with promotional junk and bric-a-brac, including the ticket stubs for every movie she attends. (She shuns television.) Hot tempered and imperious, she was banned from the Museum of Modern Art after attacking an usher who unwittingly ripped her stub in half.

velko, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

these people sound sad and depressing.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

really does kinda sound like AW tho

heavin' flho (s1ocki), Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:29 (sixteen years ago)

Armond would have just called the usher a cunt and then written a blog post bad-mouthing ushers in general for wrecking the currents of museum culture though.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:30 (sixteen years ago)

she reminded me a lot of my mom... hit a lil 2 close 2 home imo

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:54 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i saw her at a lot of screenings. as i related on the film snob thread i vividly remember her loudly kvetching about the air conditioning at anthology before a screening

The Collected Works of Fun Fun (donna rouge), Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:59 (sixteen years ago)

Ebert: Not In Defense of Armond White

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Friday, 14 August 2009 12:36 (sixteen years ago)

that's funny but im not sure Ebert is really the paragon of good taste (though i often enjoy his reviews).

That picture:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1897/armondwhiteisntinsane.jpg

ryan, Friday, 14 August 2009 14:27 (sixteen years ago)

id say the "good movies" column is much more damning than the "bad movies" column. Rise of the Silver Surfer? ugh.

ryan, Friday, 14 August 2009 14:29 (sixteen years ago)

That good list is WAY more selective than is accurate.

sir-mounter (Eric H.), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:39 (sixteen years ago)

btw go see You, the Living

Ebert asks some good questions in there.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:40 (sixteen years ago)

you the living is amazing. i dont think it's even available on dvd in the states (or canada for that matter). songs from the second floor is out of print too. this is an injustice imo

heavin' flho (s1ocki), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:50 (sixteen years ago)

xpost Sorry, not on local radar. Apparently even the Walker feels it more important to run a retrospective of the Coen brothers.

sir-mounter (Eric H.), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:50 (sixteen years ago)

I suppose I could check for torrentz, et al ...

sir-mounter (Eric H.), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:51 (sixteen years ago)

you should see songs first if poss

heavin' flho (s1ocki), Friday, 14 August 2009 14:56 (sixteen years ago)

id say the "good movies" column is much more damning than the "bad movies" column. Rise of the Silver Surfer? ugh.

it's true that armond's one reliable use is that if you happen to hate some movie lots of other people love, his predictable trashing of it can give a certain amount of satisfaction. but it always feels like a cheap thrill.

flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Friday, 14 August 2009 15:01 (sixteen years ago)

It will be interesting to see which of his '00s hobby horses make it onto his 2012 S&S list a la A.I. in '02.

sir-mounter (Eric H.), Friday, 14 August 2009 15:03 (sixteen years ago)

Ebert asks some good questions in there.

yeah, i love the big about "pre-fans" who are so totally in the tank for a movie they haven't even seen yet. those people always weird me out.

some dude, Friday, 14 August 2009 15:03 (sixteen years ago)

big=bit

some dude, Friday, 14 August 2009 15:03 (sixteen years ago)

fer sher.

heavin' flho (s1ocki), Friday, 14 August 2009 15:09 (sixteen years ago)

i havent read any fanboy reaction but excoriating AW for bringing up apartheid in the D9 review is headinhands.jpg

heavin' flho (s1ocki), Friday, 14 August 2009 15:10 (sixteen years ago)

u know if i was trying to think of "people who i would be more likely to disagree with than armond white" the aint it cool news brigade would be pretty high up on that list

max, Friday, 14 August 2009 15:15 (sixteen years ago)

Too true.

Alex in SF, Friday, 14 August 2009 15:37 (sixteen years ago)

You the Living is just getting theatrical engagements in the US; I saw it Yuesday at Film Forum on the last day of a 2-week run.

When mine was the first pan of "Humpday" to go up on RT, some "user" emailed me "Thanks for ruining the perfect score."

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 August 2009 16:06 (sixteen years ago)

Yuesday, how fitting. ;)

Alex in SF, Friday, 14 August 2009 16:07 (sixteen years ago)

should have emailed back "dealwithitdog.gif"

omar little, Friday, 14 August 2009 16:08 (sixteen years ago)

are there really people who care about a perfect score on rotten tomatoes. that is very bizarre!

ryan, Friday, 14 August 2009 16:15 (sixteen years ago)

imo having the lowest-rated review on something like metacritic or rotten tomatoes is a good thing more often than not -- lotta times i actively seek out the lowest scores just to see what they have to say

some dude, Friday, 14 August 2009 16:16 (sixteen years ago)

^^ yeah reading the dissenting voices can be valuable on those aggregation sites and with user reviews too

max, Friday, 14 August 2009 16:18 (sixteen years ago)

are there really people who care about a perfect score on rotten tomatoes. that is very bizarre!

I was a half-star away from getting clubbed by Trekkies over that ST movie. They threw up hundreds of posts about AW's pan.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 August 2009 16:19 (sixteen years ago)


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