Whoa! I looked in the mirror at the peak of a migraine aura earlier. Bad trip, man! I couldn't see my left eye, and the right side of my face seemed to have a massive dark crease under my eye and then a glowing bump which loomed out of the dim haze of the rest of my vision. Thought it was light reflecting from the window but shifting my head around didn't move it away from my cheek. Blugh.
And then I went to bed, which is probably where I should still be, because it still hurts even though I can see again now.
(PS I am not on any drugz of a psychedelic nature)
― a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:02 (sixteen years ago)
I've never looked in a mirror during a migraine - I get the big neon lightshow auras - but I'll give that a go next time!
― Master John of Scotland, alias Scotus (snoball), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:10 (sixteen years ago)
shld give it a try as well. but usually i cqan't really see properly: vision seems to have lacy curtain over it. like now. uuuurgggghhhh
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:42 (sixteen years ago)
Lacy curtains? My aura look like this:http://tv.cream.org/lookin/totp/setdesign.htm
― Master John of Scotland, alias Scotus (snoball), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:52 (sixteen years ago)
...which is kind of appropriate as I spent a lot of my childhood watching Top Of The Pops.
― Master John of Scotland, alias Scotus (snoball), Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:53 (sixteen years ago)
I just have difficulty seeing.
Honest to god, when I don't have a migraine, I can hardly explain it. Mostly I can remember "please let me sleeeeeeeeeeeeep"
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:09 (sixteen years ago)
I get the lacy curtain thing, or at least a general fuzziness with a blind spot covering or just to the side of my focus (so I could lie down and look at one foot and not see the other right next to it, or if I'm trying to read I can just about make out a word at a time but can't see the sentence), hence staring at face-reflection and not being able to see one eye.
After a bit of that, the blind spot usually turns into something like a transparent sliding block puzzle rearranging itself in front of my eyes, or sometimes I get a small block of tiny shards of colour shifting around, kind of like if these tiles moved:http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7237/wattsstructure.jpg
Interesting that everyone's seems different. Also I'd like to know if my blind spot or face-numbness is always on the opposite side to the headache side, but, you know, not by having enough migraines to notice that kind of thing.
― a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 13 August 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)
i've never had migraines before but this morning i got this really weird visual blurring/clouding effect towards the right side of my vision. lasted for about 20 minutes probably, got progressively worse then went away.
shortly after a headache on the left side of my head came on, and has been pretty strong for the past hour now. accompanied by general "i feel like shit" symptoms that weren't there this morning when i woke up.
brief online research suggests this might be a migraine? ughh
― mark cl, Thursday, 5 November 2009 17:55 (sixteen years ago)
If it persists, go see a doctor, Mark. No need to wallow in migraine misery. Hugs. Migraines suck ass.
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 6 November 2009 15:05 (sixteen years ago)
this sucks. i am on day 3, responding only intermittently to medication.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:23 (sixteen years ago)
It seems that sinus infections and migraine attacks are sometimes hard to distinguish. I can just say: since July I have had both and IT FUCKING SUCKS. Had migraine attacks all my life of course. Last couple of says I had it so bad, I threw up. FUCK THIS SHIT. I am so fed up with feeling so bad. There are moments I feel mildly sick and then I'm HAPPY. hah.
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:18 (sixteen years ago)
that discussion the other week about pressing eyes to produce phosphenes prompted me to do a little wikiresearch on migraine auras, and some of the artists' renderings give me chills just looking at them. gnarly stuff.
http://i45.tinypic.com/34hg9ad.jpg
it's like seeing THE RING except instead of dying you get to look forward to a day of solitary confinement and barfing and having a dump truck cruise around on your skull.
― iiiijjjj, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:57 (sixteen years ago)
hi i'm the suffering angel here to remind you about your impending suffering, enjoy the show loser
http://i46.tinypic.com/2m50w7o.jpg
― iiiijjjj, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:59 (sixteen years ago)
also apparently aura artists only get auras when they're on vacation (?)
― iiiijjjj, Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:00 (sixteen years ago)
Dear migraine auras: PLEASE FUCK OFF I would like to leave work and go home but I can't navigate the tube with giant glowing neon snakes taking up half my vision.
― pidyn post (Masonic Boom), Monday, 2 August 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)
hot tip somebody gave me feminex for a migraine and this shit is goood
― plax (ico), Monday, 2 August 2010 18:07 (fifteen years ago)
I just got an email where she called it "the wicked deadache" - which I know is a typo but it just absolutely describes it so perfectly.
― pidyn post (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 09:36 (fifteen years ago)
I've been getting opthalmic migraines lately. All the neon snakes without the headache later.
― Melissa W, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 10:06 (fifteen years ago)
My mum is urging me to go to the doctor about them, as they seem to happen with increasing frequency. But I'm not sure that doctors can do anything about them. They're annoying, but not incapacitating, they tend to last about 30-45 minutes. But my head does feel like it's been washed out with battery acid afterwards, even if it's not a headache, it definitely leaves me unable to function properly for hours afterwards. Like, looking at screens becomes really difficult.
― The Wicked Deadache (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 10:10 (fifteen years ago)
So. Beta Blockers. Do they work? I've been given a prescription for them but I'm nervous to start any long-term medication again. It's called PropranoLOL which makes me LOL.
I like the sound of something that stops anxiety as a side effect, but don't like the sound of something that makes you tired all the time and gives you crazy nightmares.
Anyone?
― ALTERN K8 (Masonic Boom), Monday, 16 August 2010 11:49 (fifteen years ago)
i've had like three migraines in the past two weeks (and one more migraine that i was able to get rid of in the aura stage). but reflexology does help, kinda...
http://www.livestrong.com/article/12881-use-reflexology-migraines/
― 808s and Hatebeak (get bent), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 08:06 (fifteen years ago)
i was able to get rid of in the aura stage
I always get the headache first for 15-20 minutes, then the aura starts up. Maybe that's because my main trigger is a blocked sinus.
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 09:06 (fifteen years ago)
i have bad sinuses too but my sinus headaches are distinctly different from my migraines. it's another set of pressure points, and my sinus headaches have no aura.
― 808s and Hatebeak (get bent), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 09:37 (fifteen years ago)
Kate, I have heard great things about betablockers but I am weary of'em. I mean, shit, those are some strong meds. My neighbour once fell asleep at the table with his bookkeeper. lolol
Now I don't know what'what: sinus or migraine. I thought I had a sinus problem but no gunk came out. :-( I do have to say that now that I am antidepressants, I feel a LOT better. Less migraine attacks due to less stress. YAY. I think they put some speed in my meds cause I love to work.
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 10:06 (fifteen years ago)
i have this. had an op a year or two ago for my sinuses as they said it was a deviated septum but it helped a bit, and now its bad again. doctor wants me to get another op but ive been putting it off as i dont want to have another op. maybe i should. but lack of sleep kills me and gives me awful head pains. have an inhaler but i cant tell if that helps anymore or not. so i just take paracetamol and do lots of deep nasal breathing.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 11:05 (fifteen years ago)
My mom's speech teacher says humming helps for bad sinuses. I wonder if she's just testing how far she can pull my mom's leg (or would that be nose?). I mean for chrissakes, HUMMING? Anyway yeah sinuses suck as much as migraines :-(
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)
I had been suffering from an apparently migraine attack the last couple of days. I had a prescription for some hardcore meds. But I was in doubt: if it wasn't a migraine attack, it wouldn't help and they are some hardcore meds (the list of side effects seem endless). My friend said: why the fuck do you read the paper, just pop the pill. I finally did. I feel so happy, like walking on clouds. Fuck me, migraine-less me is feeling happy happy. Now I realize how fucking crap migraines are. It really drains you.
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 14 April 2011 15:08 (fifteen years ago)
Anyone get Cluster Headaches?
Usually get them every other year but am getting "warning signs" that I'm going to get them a year early.
― djh, Thursday, 15 November 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)
^ Getting them now. Fucking fuck.
― djh, Friday, 7 March 2014 18:46 (twelve years ago)
Had mine from Christmas to the end of January, waking up every bloody night feeling like there's a knife in my eye. But it's over again for the moment. You never get used to them.
If only I could send this message to StanM 2009 : it's not trigeminal neuralgia you've got, even though some of the symptoms point that way, it's cluster headaches after all. Your beta blockers didn't actually help, you only thought so because it was just the end of that particular cluster. You'll get them every 2 years and they'll last for about a month, if the next five years are anything to go by. (oh, and try and lose some weight if you don't want to get a hernia in about 3 years)
― StanM, Friday, 7 March 2014 19:00 (twelve years ago)
How were you treating them? I used to only get mine in the night but they have moved to every 7 hours or so.
(Similarly, was prescribed antibiotics for years and always thought it just took six weeks worth ...)
― djh, Friday, 7 March 2014 21:15 (twelve years ago)
I didn't take anything because of the uncertainty (if it helps, is it the pills or the end of the cluster?), the only thing that worked was to either sit upright in bed (it would slowly fade away in waves during the next hour or so) or walk around (but it's not obvious to go walking around a quiet part of town at 3 or 3 AM without looking like a burglar looking for a target).
Good luck! Try everything you can think of that isn't dangerous or illegal and don't give up!
― StanM, Friday, 7 March 2014 21:34 (twelve years ago)
2 or 3 AM
― StanM, Friday, 7 March 2014 21:35 (twelve years ago)
Try everything: drink a lot of water, drink less water, skip meat, eat more meat, more vegetables, less vegetables, nuts, no nuts, greasy food, no greasy food, bread, no bread, fish, no fish, milk, no milk, be outside more, higher or lower temp on the thermostat, etc etc etc, I'm convinced there's a pattern or trigger but I haven't found mine yet.
― StanM, Friday, 7 March 2014 21:39 (twelve years ago)
I usually treat cluster patients for prevention with verapamil (take every day to keep the cluster away), or a short course of the steroid dexamethasone (start only when the cluster starts, to interrupt the cycle).
Acute treatment is tricky because the episodes are usually brief and medications take awhile to get absorbed from the stomach. Subcutaneous or intranasal sumatriptan is the fastest-acting option. 100% O2 by mask is effective in research trials but impractical in real life.
Cluster is circadian and related to hypothalamic/autonomic function, not typically associated with environmental triggers like migraine. Smoking and hard liquor are risk factors (but not necessary to develop the disorder). Milk, fish and bread or whatever are probably not the issue. Interestingly, hazel eyes, ruddy skin and furrowed facial features ("leonine facies") have been described as associations.
/neurologist
― Plasmon, Friday, 7 March 2014 23:42 (twelve years ago)
Thanking you!
Nothing skin- or face-related here. My partial heterochromia (brown sector in otherwise blue eyes) IS on the same (right) side my migraine is on, though.
― StanM, Saturday, 8 March 2014 02:17 (twelve years ago)
Yes, I use Sumatriptan 50 mg tablets plus oxygen or Sumatriptan injection. Problematically, I'm getting three or four attacks a day at the moment(which would take me over the allowed prescription of the injections). Didn't get on with Verapamil or steroids, at all.
― djh, Saturday, 8 March 2014 03:57 (twelve years ago)
If you're having that many attacks, you're in the middle of a cluster and steroids are indicated to interrupt the pattern. They usually work.
If you're having frequent clusters (ideally, you'd have 1-2 or fewer clusters -- bouts where you have 1 or more attacks per day on most days -- per year), you should be on an ongoing preventive like verapamil. Verapamil is usually effective even at modest doses, tends to be well tolerated.
If you get on the right regimen (sometimes easier said than done), you might be able to reduce the number of attacks to a handful per year, or even go a year or more between attacks.
― Plasmon, Saturday, 8 March 2014 05:34 (twelve years ago)
I'm apprehensive about taking something that fiddles with my heart like verapamil for the rest of my life for something completely different just because it happens to inexplicably seem to work :-/
― StanM, Saturday, 8 March 2014 05:51 (twelve years ago)
OK chief, that's your call.
― Plasmon, Saturday, 8 March 2014 07:43 (twelve years ago)
I'm lucky to only have it for about a month every couple of years at the moment, I might change my mind if it was more often.
― StanM, Saturday, 8 March 2014 07:48 (twelve years ago)
So what you need is a order for steroids that you can start as soon as the cluster does. Cut that month down to a couple of days. Stay off preventives (verapamil etc) if you can go years between clusters, they're only needed if the clusters are more frequent. When it finally recurs, knock it back again with the dex. Whack-a-mole style.
For people whose clusters are predictable by season (only get them in the fall or whatever), I put them on verapamil just during that window and then stop it until the same time next year.
― Plasmon, Saturday, 8 March 2014 07:51 (twelve years ago)
Thank you so much! ^ why can't I buy this person a gold star?
― StanM, Saturday, 8 March 2014 08:04 (twelve years ago)
Spoke to OUCH (Organisation for the Understanding of Cluster Headache)(UK)'s helpline today. They suggested not bothering with Sumatriptan tablets (too slow) but using the injections. They also suggested using Oxygen but continuing use for ten minutes after the pain stopped (likely to reduce rebounds). They mentioned the possibility of using Frovatriptan, which has a longer "shelf life" than Sumatriptan. They also mentioned Verapamil and steroids.
― djh, Saturday, 8 March 2014 21:27 (twelve years ago)
Frova's a decent idea for bridging during recurring attacks, because it stays in your system for 24 hrs or so. It's quite slow to start working, so it's next to useless for acute treatment of an attack that's just started. But it would likely prevent further attacks in that 24 hr window.
You're probably better off with a short course of steroids to interrupt the cluster: way cheaper than brand name triptans and very effective. Once the cluster "breaks", it often goes quiet for a nice long time.
Acute treatment in cluster should be considered as rescue therapy -- if needed more than rarely, it's a sign that other measures have failed.
― Plasmon, Sunday, 9 March 2014 01:47 (twelve years ago)
Ta.
(Yes, once I get to the end of this, it'll be two years before they happen again).
― djh, Sunday, 9 March 2014 20:58 (twelve years ago)
First migraine in two years. My main trigger is blocked sinuses, so I attribute this one to a very dry September where it hardly rained at all suddenly shifting to being very rainy today.
― wackness unlimited (snoball), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 20:08 (eleven years ago)
i've been getting migraine symptoms without the headache. light sensitivity/blurry vision/aura. am i going blind?
― Highland-Camrose Bungalow Village (get bent), Thursday, 4 December 2014 07:03 (eleven years ago)
curious about the post just above mine that mentions the change in the weather -- we just went from a long period of drought conditions to heavy rain.
― Highland-Camrose Bungalow Village (get bent), Thursday, 4 December 2014 07:05 (eleven years ago)
Sounds like: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acephalgic_migraine
Barometric pressure changes can be a trigger for all sorts of migraine, including visual aura w/o headache.
― Plasmon, Friday, 5 December 2014 03:15 (eleven years ago)