Interesting use of the word "lawless" there
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Friday, 12 April 2024 14:20 (two months ago) link
hot dog will holler etc
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 April 2024 14:33 (two months ago) link
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0uKpWS1-fiVZNc4GetsybEZRYxkg-jDqWXg&s
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 April 2024 14:34 (two months ago) link
^ lawless
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 April 2024 14:35 (two months ago) link
I met Johnny Cochran at a wedding in Florida a few years before he died. He was charming and funny. I asked him point blank if he thought OJ did it.
He laughed and said, "I can tell you are a smart man. You don't even need to ask me that question!" Then he winked and laughed and that was that.
― I. J. Miggs (dandydonweiner), Friday, 12 April 2024 16:01 (two months ago) link
ah wait that was for the OJ thread lol
― I. J. Miggs (dandydonweiner), Friday, 12 April 2024 16:02 (two months ago) link
It's all good. Was Breyer there too?
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 April 2024 16:04 (two months ago) link
x-post-
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/11/leonard-leo-subpoena-senate-supreme-court-gifts/
The committee did not respond when asked for comment on why only Leo received a subpoena. And when asked why so much time elapsed between the vote and Leo’s subpoena being sent, Durbin’s office declined to expand on his original statement....With Leo’s refusal, Democrats would be forced to hold a Senate vote if they wanted to seek enforcement of the subpoena in court — a nearly impossible task in a narrowly split chamber with 60 votes needed to break a filibuster.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 12 April 2024 19:28 (two months ago) link
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/justice-clarence-thomas-misses-supreme-court-arguments-rcna147826
🤞🏻
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 15 April 2024 15:10 (one month ago) link
Please die mister Thomas
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 15 April 2024 15:14 (one month ago) link
https://www.vox.com/scotus/24080080/supreme-court-mckesson-doe-first-amendment-protest-black-lives-matter
The Supreme Court announced on Monday that it will not hear Mckesson v. Doe. The decision not to hear Mckesson leaves in place a lower court decision that effectively eliminated the right to organize a mass protest in the states of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Texas.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 April 2024 15:25 (one month ago) link
That seems illegal
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 00:36 (one month ago) link
Thomas is just out for a few days receiving a transplant of vital organs from his clone in Clonus.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:16 (one month ago) link
i changed his wiki page to say he was deceased today.
it only stayed up 4 minutes ;_;
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:24 (one month ago) link
Maybe he has one of his law clerks assigned to monitor his wiki page for just such contingencies.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:26 (one month ago) link
Hey guys, I saw on Wikipedia today that Clarence Thomas was DEAD! But then a few minutes later it was gone! Cover-up!
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:29 (one month ago) link
Deep State imo
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:38 (one month ago) link
Derp State
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:42 (one month ago) link
x-post = That Supreme Court majority action to leave in place for now the McKesson 1st Amendment ruling is ridiculous because it comes from the extreme crazy 5th Circuit. As the Vox article explains:
Under that lower court decision, a protest organizer faces potentially ruinous financial consequences if a single attendee at a mass protest commits an illegal act.
It is possible that this outcome will be temporary. The Court did not embrace the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit’s decision attacking the First Amendment right to protest, but it did not reverse it either. That means that, at least for now, the Fifth Circuit’s decision is the law in much of the American South.
For the past several years, the Fifth Circuit has engaged in a crusade against DeRay Mckesson, a prominent figure within the Black Lives Matter movement who organized a protest near a Baton Rouge police station in 2016.
The facts of the Mckesson case are, unfortunately, quite tragic. Mckesson helped organize the Baton Rouge protest following the fatal police shooting of Alton Sterling. During that protest, an unknown individual threw a rock or similar object at a police officer, the plaintiff in the Mckesson case who is identified only as “Officer John Doe.” Sadly, the officer was struck in the face and, according to one court, suffered “injuries to his teeth, jaw, brain, and head.”
Everyone agrees that this rock was not thrown by Mckesson, however. And the Supreme Court held in NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware (1982) that protest leaders cannot be held liable for the violent actions of a protest participant, absent unusual circumstances that are not present in the Mckesson case — such as if Mckesson had “authorized, directed, or ratified” the decision to throw the rock.
Indeed, as Justice Sonia Sotomayor points out in a brief opinion accompanying the Court’s decision not to hear Mckesson, the Court recently reaffirmed the strong First Amendment protections enjoyed by people like Mckesson in Counterman v. Colorado (2023). That decision held that the First Amendment “precludes punishment” for inciting violent action “unless the speaker’s words were ‘intended’ (not just likely) to produce imminent disorder"
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:52 (one month ago) link
https://www.npr.org/2024/04/15/1238351984/supreme-court-transgender-rights-gender-affirming-care-idaho?ft=nprml&f=1070
The Supreme Court majority also let a conservative law go into effect (until later maybe)
The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday granted Idaho's emergency request to temporarily revive a state law banning gender-affirming care for children under the age of 18.
The law, which makes it a felony for doctors to medically treat gender dysphoria in minors, will now go into effect except in the case of two anonymous plaintiffs who have until now been treated with hormones and may continue to receive treatment.
Sotomayor and Jackson did a dissent; Kagan dissented without signing on to the other dissent
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:57 (one month ago) link
Should be a day
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/16/supreme-court-obstruction-jan-6-00152406
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 10:20 (one month ago) link
Ugh .
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:50 (one month ago) link
Alito now going all-in on comparing J6, legally, to hecklers at SCOTUS and protesters blocking traffic on the Golden Gate Bridge.— Mike Sacks (@MikeSacksEsq) April 16, 2024
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:17 (one month ago) link
Totally cool and chill
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:34 (one month ago) link
Hopefully one day we'll be comparing Alito to Tony Dogs in Casino
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:37 (one month ago) link
He was also asking if someone who pulled a fire alarm to delay a House vote would go to jail for 20 years.
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:59 (one month ago) link
🐦[Alito now going all-in on comparing J6, legally, to hecklers at SCOTUS and protesters blocking traffic on the Golden Gate Bridge.— Mike Sacks (@MikeSacksEsq) April 16, 2024🕸]🐦
― President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:35 (one month ago) link
Solicitor General did a good job, but the conservative majority seemed determined to nitpick the statute and Justice department enforcement via analogies that were stretches.
Yesterday the same majority allowed an extremist 5th Circuit to restrict free speech protests in that region greatly by reversing precedent based largely on politics and today is mostly more of the same. There are a few issues admittedly with how law at issue today was phrased , but not that substantial.
Clarence Thomas was back at court today and participating even though due to his wife’s involvement in j 6 he should have recused himself
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:41 (one month ago) link
https://x.com/therecount/status/1780305428171174131?s=46&t=u2ZSlsY3trRV36IPP6jNDQ
Clip here has a great response from solicitor general
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:48 (one month ago) link
It's so depressing when you hear these justices and it's like, "Oh you get all your information from Fox News too huh." Long since become accustomed to right-wing elected officials parroting whatever the dumb outrage of the week is, and I know it's increasingly unrealistic to think of the SCOTUS majority as anything but right-wing (un)elected officials, but it's still dispiriting.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:51 (one month ago) link
Scalia was fucking quoting the Ben Nelson carveout in 2012 when the ACA went to court. These guys are droogs.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 22:44 (one month ago) link
At arguments in Grants Pass, Sotomayor, Kagan, and Jackson are pummeling the Gibson Dunn attorney defending laws that punish homeless people who sleep outside. Sotomayor asks: If homeless people aren't allowed to sleep anywhere, are they supposed to just "kill themselves"?— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) April 22, 2024
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 April 2024 15:18 (one month ago) link
literally what i typically ask people who are for rounding up homeless people sleeping on the streets
― ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 April 2024 16:38 (one month ago) link
except people say 'yes' to it quite often, because yes, most people do want them to not exist
(which is fucked up but hey, USA, USA)
Chief Justice John Roberts displayed a alarming lack of humanity throughout the arguments on Monday, strongly fighting the idea that being homeless could ever be a status because a person can get a home at any point. While other justices questioned the implementation or application of the Ninth Circuit’s rule, Roberts, instead, seemed almost incredulous that we were in court hearing this case.
Chris Geidner from Law Dork Substack
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 04:21 (one month ago) link
Yeah I mean why don't they just go home jeez
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 04:36 (one month ago) link
These are the times that the religious justices all agree in a separation of church (ie, Jesus' commandments on helping the poor) and state... not to say they'd do any sort of charity in their private lives either.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 16:03 (one month ago) link
In practical terms a lot of this is going to boil down to the policy question of where the burden of alleviating homelessness falls. On one end, there’s the probably untenable idea that every municipality in America no matter how small or under resourced has to provide a fairly sophisticated shelter system, and on the other end it’s blue cities are going to get stuck with the bill for housing the homeless as red cities and small towns can just force them to move along. Neither is really tenable but those are the practical implications of the constitutional question. Some kind of federal legislation is probably needed to ensure that the cost of housing the homeless is properly spread out.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 16:27 (one month ago) link
Today at the court— After Starbucks fired seven workers who were trying to unionize their Tennessee store, a U.S. government agency obtained a court order forcing the company to rehire them. Now, Starbucks wants the Supreme Court to curb the government’s power in such cases.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/04/23/starbucks-federal-labor-agency-supreme-court/
Court majority was likely sympathetic to Starbucks
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 16:50 (one month ago) link
https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-starbucks-union-fired-workers-tennessee-e373f840987234c84019cd9643ddf2f3
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 21:58 (one month ago) link
And today- Idaho abortion ban vs federal law protecting patients who need emergency care. Supreme Court is holding president immunity hearing till tomorrow Thursday April 25 ( & may take their time issuing a decision to help the court majority’s pal)
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:42 (one month ago) link
Hmm. I may be wrong, but the conservatives (even Alito!) seem to want to make emergency access an exception to their hostility? Alito and Gorsuch and Roberts sound like they're begging the federal government for assurance that this is an exception.
Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar is so good at this.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:23 (one month ago) link
Sounds like they want to be slick and pretend the Idaho law allows for protection of women, and allows doctors to protect the pregnant person , when in fact the Idaho law doesn’t clearly do that and allows for prosecution of doctors.
Alito was focused on the unborn child language in such a way that didn’t seem to show much of any concern for the pregnant person
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 18:20 (one month ago) link
I wrote my post before Alito's DINGO ATE MAH BAYBEE language.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 18:22 (one month ago) link
https://x.com/chrisgeidner/status/1783170516418773488?s=46&t=u2ZSlsY3trRV36IPP6jNDQ
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 18:30 (one month ago) link
https://www.rawstory.com/amy-coney-barrett-2667868611/
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 18:32 (one month ago) link
When I read that Alito was focused on unborn child language am I to assume he was making guttural noises in addition to some combination of moaning and gargling?
― henry s, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 18:40 (one month ago) link
He's the angriest one on the court. The state of Idaho Is arguing for the right of prosecutors (or fearful doctors) to deny patients emergency abortion care, even if it means that they could die, and Alito wants that
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:35 (one month ago) link
But today is the long delayed immunity case that could have been dismissed or held awhile ago, and which needs to have a decision issued quickly, so trials can proceed before the election. But Supreme Court, which has in the past, heard and issued decisions quickly, isn't interested here
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:38 (one month ago) link