US Politics, April 2024: "Are You Better Off Today Than You Were <Checks Notes> Four Years Ago?"

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Trump betrayed his deeply held personal principle of being staunchly pro-life?

President Keyes, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:31 (two years ago)

wtf is the word "principles" doing in a headline of a story about Trump, that just seems politically illiterate.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:38 (two years ago)

I loved it, got hard just staring at the headline

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:39 (two years ago)

quiddities and hard-ons of the NYT

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:40 (two years ago)

how many abortions do we think Trump has paid for

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:52 (two years ago)

well, how many did he say he would pay for but never did?

President Keyes, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:54 (two years ago)

five hundred twenty five thousands six hundred 'bortions

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:10 (two years ago)

...and yet Eric & DJTJ made it through.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:15 (two years ago)

Yep first of many “Trump is really a moderate on abortion” articles written by people who just fell off the turnip truck.

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:18 (two years ago)

xpost so maybe it didn't take?

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:21 (two years ago)

lol, was gonna say. They both have a decided air of non-viable fetus about them.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 16:13 (two years ago)

Will the nyt crack new analyzers put the "states decide" position in real perspective?

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/09/1243679136/arizona-abortion-court-decision-ban

rob, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 17:50 (two years ago)

outside of the general awfulness of that ruling, it's gonna light a political fire in the suburbs that the GOP won't be able to extinguish

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 18:07 (two years ago)

yeah that ruling plus https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/arizona-abortion-rights-amendment-backers-says-gathered-signatures-nee-rcna145922

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 18:14 (two years ago)

Looks similar to what happened in Florida.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 18:17 (two years ago)

since the SCOTUS ruling, every time that restoring reproductive rights have been put to the voters, they've won

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 18:23 (two years ago)

Apparently Arizonans need 400k signatures by July to get it on the ballot, but already have over 500k, and it just needs a simple majority to pass.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 18:31 (two years ago)

I won’t let Kari Lake distort the record.

She called this law a “great law” - even though it will ban nearly all abortions, including in cases of rape or incest. pic.twitter.com/lXmtShrtSG

— Ruben Gallego (@RubenGallego) April 9, 2024

President Keyes, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 18:37 (two years ago)

they are continuing to run up the score on signatures to drive turnout iiuc, which seems smart.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 18:38 (two years ago)

I like to see the Dems immediately tying the GOP to this law

President Keyes, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 18:39 (two years ago)

As in, literally yesterday Trump endorsed leaving these decisions up to the states. Well, there you go.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 18:41 (two years ago)

they should start calling Kari Lake 'pro-incest'

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 18:56 (two years ago)

Ol' Incest Lake

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 18:57 (two years ago)

The Arizona AG has announced that she will not enforce the ban.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 19:03 (two years ago)

Lake 2024: You're My Present This Year

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 19:04 (two years ago)

Incest, Lake & Trumper

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 19:11 (two years ago)

lol

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 19:14 (two years ago)

Pictures At An Atrocity Exhibition

nickn, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 19:59 (two years ago)

A lot of online right-wingers think the inbred-as-fuck Habsburgs and Romanovs were the peak of Aryan genetic purity.

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 20:38 (two years ago)

Their blood was so pure it did not clot!

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 20:39 (two years ago)

seems like pure aryans should be out singing Wagner on an icy crag, not hanging out in a chatroom idk

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 20:45 (two years ago)

Jamelle Bouie on Trump's abortion speech (gift link)

The Man Who Snuffed Out Abortion Rights Is Here to Tell You He Is a Moderate

Donald Trump does not speak from conviction. He does not speak from belief or at least any belief other than self-obsession. He certainly does not speak from anything we might recognize as reason; when he’s holding forth from a podium, even the most careful students of Trump the rhetorician will struggle to find the light of complex thought.

You should think of Trump instead as a purely instrumental speaker. It does not matter to him whether a statement is true or false. It does not matter if one statement contradicts another, in the same speech or in the same paragraph or in the same sentence. What matters to Trump is whether the words serve the purpose at hand. He will say anything if it’s what he feels an audience wants to hear or if it moves him one step closer to a personal or political goal.

Trump’s fundamental disinterest in the truth value of his words is the only context that matters for his comments on abortion Monday morning. In a direct-to-camera statement on Truth Social, the former president told his audience that he does not support a national ban on abortion. “My view is now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it from a legal standpoint,” Trump said. “The states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both, and whatever they decide must be the law of the land. In this case, the law of the state.”

...

If you’re not inclined to put Trump’s abortion comments in the context of his habitual disregard for the truth, then you should at least put them in the context of his political coalition, which is dominated by forces and constituencies that want nothing less than the criminalization of abortion, the constitutional protection of fetal life and state regulation of bodily autonomy for the sake of patriarchal gender norms.

Trump embraced this movement and its demands as president, and there’s every reason to believe he’ll do the same with another four years in office. Put another way, when has Trump ever bucked anyone who defends him, supports him and showers him with praise?

We do not have to speculate about Trump’s relationship to abortion and reproductive rights as leader of the Republican Party. He is, after all, a former president of the United States. We already know what he wants, what he’ll do and what he’ll sign. Trump landed a major blow against legal abortion during his first term. If given a second, he will land another.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 21:48 (two years ago)

Arizona Republican Reps. Juan Ciscomani and David Schweikert react to the Arizona Supreme Court ruling reviving an abortion ban that traces back to the 1800s. Both represent swing districts up for grabs this fall. pic.twitter.com/0G5Ry5oxws

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) April 9, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 23:26 (two years ago)

yeah, this is a big 'dog catches bus' moment and it's fun to watch them squirm

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 23:33 (two years ago)

was thinking that exact thing earlier today

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 23:37 (two years ago)

The man will say anything to stay out of prison, and could care less what the consequences are.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 23:41 (two years ago)

David Schweikert and Juan Ciscomani are abortion extremists who are now masquerading as moderates

And Kari Lake, who praised the 1864 law in her race for Governor in 2022 (it's on video), has done an about-face now that it is in effect. Like them she has no principles, the position will be whatever gets her elected

Dan S, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 23:44 (two years ago)

Life in Texas? Kinda shitty! (Rick Perlstein interviews an unnamed TX journalist.)

I was having beers with another guy and...We’re both Democrats, and we were both saying we figured we’d stay here until, you know, Texas decided to change on us. I’m not resigned yet, but I don’t feel very good about it. Watching this last election, and watching the final guardrails come off the system was not uplifting. And then, honestly, I think fellow Democrats’ refusal to really recognize how bad things are about to get is in its own way kind of depressing. Talking to a lot of people, and hearing them say, “Well, we didn’t do well in this election, we’ll keep coalition-building and hope for better in the future!” It’s like, we might be about to see public education as we know it not exist anymore—it feels like we ought to have more alarm bells ringing than we do.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 21:32 (two years ago)

Arizona GOP just voted unanimously to block Dem attempt to repeal the abortion law. And assholes like Joni Ernst going all in on supporting it, too: "I am a mom; I am a brand-new grandma. and I support life. Senate Republicans, the GOP, and President Trump really worked hard to overturn Roe v Wade. So, we returned that back to the states. That is the law of the land with that Supreme Court decision. So, the states are handling that. But again, we worked very hard to get this result." These goons can't help themselves. Very "he admit it!" meme.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 21:43 (two years ago)

How far away are we from one of these States just full on voting to say "Democrats can't have any say in government at all"?

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 21:47 (two years ago)

Hi from Florida!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 21:55 (two years ago)

lol (but not really), I just meant even more openly and blatantly than the barely disguised ways they've been doing so far!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 21:59 (two years ago)

The situation in TN: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-04-05/tennessee-legislature-s-2024-session-is-a-lesson-in-extremist-politics

With a Republican governor and a supermajority in the state House and Senate, the party’s near-absolute control of the state allows lawmakers to pretend they are the patriarchs in a long-ago revolution. They act as if they need only listen to those who sound and look like them.

On a more personal level, two of my friends were on a Facebook thread today glumly talking about plans to leave the state with their kids because they don't want to bring them up surrounded by all this terrible shit.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 21:59 (two years ago)

I read those comments, tipsy. Grim.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 22:05 (two years ago)

Damn, that American Prospect piece.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 22:17 (two years ago)

Yeah, fucking bleak.

Another: “I also just finished a story about how domestic violence homicides are through the roof in Texas (even as overall homicide rates have declined), but we don’t have the infrastructure to really know how bad conditions have become. It turns out when you turn women into second-class citizens and make guns easily accessible, that doesn’t go well.”

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 22:30 (two years ago)

Ha, I'm loving this new dance: The Arizona Squirm

“I oppose today’s ruling,” added Kari Lake, a Republican running to represent Arizona in the US Senate and a Donald Trump loyalist. Lake called on the state legislature to “come up with an immediate commonsense solution that Arizonans can support

“This is an earthquake that has never been seen in Arizona politics,” said Barrett Marson, a Republican consultant in Arizona, of the decision. “This will shake the ground under every Republican candidate, even those in safe legislative or congressional seats.”

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 23:06 (two years ago)

omg they did it again. This feels like trolling at this point.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/10/us/politics/two-imperfect-messengers-take-on-abortion.html

https://i.imgur.com/ASnCh3D.png

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 11 April 2024 00:37 (two years ago)

truly, who among us is perfect

symsymsym, Thursday, 11 April 2024 00:39 (two years ago)


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