Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

Pennsyltucky

I've mentioned in the past that the small town where my mom lives in rural Illinois (1,700 population) has a Trump Store that sells (as far as I can tell from the road, fuck if I'll investigate more closely) flags and stickers and such, in a small strip on the main drag. Whenever I visit I always hope to see it vacant again, but sadly this weekend I saw that it has doubled in size, now taking over an additional storefront. The economy must be booming if there is that much money flowing for Trump merch!

They should sell hams in his image.

that's the thing that the cultists can't understand... we just don't care about Joe Biden that much, but we're still gonna vote for him (at least most of us will)... we won't buy a flag or a bible or wear a kooky Biden hat, he's not that kind of figure. He's just a politician that takes up very little space in my head for the most part

small wonder

He hasn't even inspired a Shepard Fairey piece, ffs.

JOPE

I take that back, he has, but not an iconic one like Obama's

https://cdn.musebycl.io/2021-01/Which-Future-Biden-Greenpeace-30x40.jpg

tHe's just a politician that takes up very little space in my head for the most part

― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, March 28, 2024 3:22 PM (fifty-eight seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

that was bidens promise, which is a typically paltry stupid dem fantasy, but at this point a good chunk his potential constituency actively dislike him, with many feeling much more negative

someone in my neighborhood has the Trump-as-Rambo flag and all I can think every time I see it is if I saw someone do that with Joe Biden that person is either hilarious or needs to be committed

dems should get someone that will inspire that sort of psychosis tho

I mean, if anyone could do it, it would be a Kennedy.

naw kennedys are cooked, fuck a dynasty anyway, need someone whos willing to get in there and mix it up a little

Michelle Obama

yeah she could run on a hugging george w bush platform lol

AOC is 35 in 2028 yeah?

She turns 35 this October

who knows what the real dynamics are but if she was currently in a primary v biden talking about cutting israel off people would be going wild it would be some shit, part of what made trump work was breaking republican taboos and just not being a typical on message politician, idk if theres something out there like that for dems but its interesting to ponder

by teh time millenials get their candidates eligible they won't be cool anymore just warning you about how this shit goes

its politics its not cool

McGovern in '72

the problem is Dems actually care about results and passing bills and stuff with the GOP it's just all vibes which is a lot easier to control

i would argue that the dem party vibe is passing bills and stuff, do they actually pass bills and stuff no of course not, its a shitty vibe technocrats neoliberalism the managerial class etc, from a political perspective its what you could call loser stuff, a party designed to lose, which is what makes it vulnerable to someone who not totally motivated by sitting on corporate boards in retirement

if I saw someone do that with Joe Biden that person is either hilarious or needs to be committed

I think the only equivalent is the Dark Biden meme or whatever it is

that meme only exists to needle people on the right I think

an ironic joke that became post ironic via context collapse as things do

I continue to be surprised that the old Biden 'shops from the Onion never made a resurgence over the past several years.

I think Obama was seen as pretty cool until he started trying to work with the Republicans and kept getting his ass handed to him. Oh, and droning people.

obama ran on hope and change then didnt hope or change anything, he was obvs just a very good electoral politician, but that trick only works once, he had something going but then totally shut it down cause at heart he was another centrist dem with "self" defeating ideas about governing

Yeah, but he became cool again when he started hanging with Lin Manuel Miranda and making Spotify playlists.

i found out about the underground rap artist jay z from obama

bernie is the real proof of concept weird old grumpy man who no one had ever heard of walked out of the vermont woods to give the anointed dem nominee a run for their money, some just completely left field shit, is bernie cool no of course not it doesnt matter

weird old grumpy man who no one had ever heard of

He was in the House of Representatives for almost 20 years and the Senate for a decade before he ran for president the first time.

whats yr point

a big dem impediment to having a good candidate from a voter pov, obvs nothing compared to corporate influence etc haha, is too many dems have expert syndrome they cant just like something they try to nate silver it, absolutely no theory of change just a bunch of cheap heuristics and historical anecdotes they think are universal laws, conclusions worse than if they were just folks

also their messaging sucks

imo thats more a result of the things they want sucking than being bad at messaging particularly

i think if michelle obama ran as an independent that she would win.

imo thats more a result of the things they want sucking than being bad at messaging particularly

― lag∞n, Thursday, March 28, 2024 8:33 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yah for sure. "compromise" instead of, you know, "crazy stuff" (a 32 hour work week is not that crazy. but this will go nowhere.)

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4728

Oh absolutely that bill will go nowhere, but otoh, things like that are what plant the seed for eventual change so... I'm not mad at it, even knowing it's just a symbolic thing at this particular point in history.

i think if michelle obama ran as an independent that she would win.

― scott seward, Thursday, March 28, 2024 4:36 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

other things aside i dont think that coming together as a nation rhetoric plays these days

the example I keep bringing up is how everyone thought "build a wall" was the dumbest shit regardless of political affiliation but once Trump started winning primaries suddenly it became popular on the right. imagine that with an idea that's actually good and can be accomplished

xpost When they go low, we go LOL

xpost I nominate "Soak the Rich"

we as a nation must hug it out

https://i.imgur.com/xZOzv6v.png

you know upon reflection could the country go for another vague inspirational obama campaign, they might im not gonna rule it out, obvs there are other particulars re michelle not being a politician but big picture it could maybe work

I love that all the former living presidents are all buddy-buddy, a club that Trump will never be allowed to join

illuminati application rejected!

https://preview.redd.it/we-know-that-by-the-time-of-its-end-the-stonecutter-v0-29aq4xchdvfa1.png?auto=webp&s=608ddc3f86b5c3a4cb4f32645ac2557295c78585

I love that all the former living presidents are all buddy-buddy, a club that Trump will never be allowed to join

― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, March 28, 2024 3:54 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

To say nothing of the former presidents’ children