Now I know he's going, I kind of want Rusty to go overboard and just make it as overblown as possible.
I'm sure I've heard of planets being dragged across the galaxy and hidden in Doctor Who before, can't remember where though.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 12 June 2008 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link
The Pirate Planet
― HI DERE, Thursday, 12 June 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link
And The Mysterious Planet (the first chunk of Trial Of A Timelord). I haven't watched the rest yet, so I still don't know why earth was 2 light years away from where it should've been. And I've got a feeling it might not even get explained.
― JimD, Thursday, 12 June 2008 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
and of course in the first two episodes of this series
― Alan, Thursday, 12 June 2008 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link
uh waht
― HI DERE, Thursday, 12 June 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
How did I miss the planet abduction bits of "Partners in Crime" and "The Fires of Pompeii"?
― HI DERE, Thursday, 12 June 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
It's been the running theme through the entire series.
The Adipose lost their planet, the Pyrovilles lost heirs, the Sontarans wanted to transform Earth, the people who had travelled in the Doctor's Daughter lost theirs, the Vespiform lost the planet it came from, the Library was lost to the shadow things... it's Rusty's Big Thing this year. Also, missing bees have been in all (?) the episodes this series.
― aldo, Thursday, 12 June 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link
And of course the shadow things had their forests destroyed to make the books.
― Chess, Thursday, 12 June 2008 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
xp OH WOW OF COURSE
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 12 June 2008 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link
ok I was being superliteralist and thinking there was some subplot abt planets getting dragged across the universe in "The Fires of Pompeii" that I'd forgotten
― HI DERE, Thursday, 12 June 2008 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link
That is a cool explanation – clever!
Can we have a Dalek moratorium for a while though?
― Brakhage, Friday, 13 June 2008 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes Russell/Steven, please just don't use them for about 500 yrs.
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 13 June 2008 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link
I distinctly remember reading it being a condition of use by the Terry Nation Estate/T1m H4nc0ck that the Daleks were in every full series made to get to use the license.
So they won't be in the specials (possibly) but will be in Moffat's first full series. Probably.
― aldo, Friday, 13 June 2008 05:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I'm just being ridiculously hopeful.
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 13 June 2008 06:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Just listened to the Paul McGann "Neverland" audio drama, which has Romana (II) in it. I can't believe the two guys Lalla Ward married were tom baker and RICHARD DAWKINS, of all people.
http://www.brighton.ac.uk/news/2004/images/dawkinsward.jpg
― kingfish, Saturday, 14 June 2008 08:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Guardian preview for tonight:
"Outside nothing can survive, so why is there banging on the ship's hull?"
Anyone get the feeling the Daleks are arriving early, in Master Utopia stylee?
― Matthew H, Saturday, 14 June 2008 10:49 (fifteen years ago) link
No. This is the "budget-lite" episode.
― aldo, Saturday, 14 June 2008 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe just an eye-stalk?
― Matthew H, Saturday, 14 June 2008 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link
No. This is like a one scene play.
― aldo, Saturday, 14 June 2008 11:31 (fifteen years ago) link
featuring Mark Addy´s wife from The Full Monty - just when i couldn´t think of any more people who should be in this. altho i think that guy who played Chris Finch in The Office should get a look in soon.
― blueski, Saturday, 14 June 2008 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought last week's didn't hang together as well as some people did, and I do worry that Moffat is overmining some seams, BUT I can't get Donna's dream world out of my head. The immediate movement from one scene to another and, especially, Miss Evangelista pointing out that all the children were the same. That such a thing could be suddenly the case was so on point. I can't think of dream logic being so well portrayed on film, not even in David Lynch.
― Alba, Saturday, 14 June 2008 12:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Probably Captain Jack trying to get in. I fully expect him to turn up at some point very soon.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 14 June 2008 13:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Not for two weeks yet.
― aldo, Saturday, 14 June 2008 13:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I think it will be an elaborate set-up for the "Knock knock. Who's there. Doctor." joke.
― Alba, Saturday, 14 June 2008 13:34 (fifteen years ago) link
It's the B-52s thinking it's the loveshack.
― ledge, Saturday, 14 June 2008 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link
-- aldo, Saturday, 14 June 2008 23:30 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
― Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 14 June 2008 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link
I think it will be an elaborate set-up for the "Knock knock. Who's there. Doctor." joke
Just got back from betting my house on this happening.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 14 June 2008 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Was Blink the budget-lite ep last time?
― chap, Saturday, 14 June 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Think so, yes. 4 costumes and a couple of props, 2/3 sets with minor props?
― aldo, Saturday, 14 June 2008 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
In that case I say slash the show's budget by 50% - leave enough for a couple of two-part CGI fests, but fill the rest of the series with small-scale spookiness.
― chap, Saturday, 14 June 2008 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link
SO FUCKING GOOD.
Safely RTD's best ever.
― JimD, Saturday, 14 June 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
And tell you what, if this leads to a "doc falls out of love with humans" arc, that could be LOADS of fun.
― JimD, Saturday, 14 June 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Wow! Agreed that it's RTD's best, and also best of series 4.
― chap, Saturday, 14 June 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah Rusty really raised his game with that one, genuinely fucking creepy in a totally unexpected way. Loved the way the Doctor seemed more freaked out by the growing mob mentality of the other people in the cabin than the creature itself. Ten minutes in I thought it was going to be awful so well played turning that round.
The supporting actors weren't great but otherwise yay.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 14 June 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link
I'd expected cheap budget Alien meets Snakes on a Plane or something so unexplained creepy psychological horror was very welcome.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 14 June 2008 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link
It was wonderfully directed as well.
― chap, Saturday, 14 June 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link
His dialogue is still a bit Disco Dad in places and sub-Lucas in others, but that was just fine. Enjoyed that more than anything since Blink.
― aldo, Saturday, 14 June 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link
ANd see this is the sort of thing I've been complaining abuot. You don't need lots and lots of CGI (three matte shots in this?), you don't need clumpy aliums, you don't need OOH I'M SO CLEVARR I HAS BEEN DROPPING HINTS FOR WEEKS (although HI DERE to Lost Moon of Poosh and Billie in Series Arc territory and you definitely don't need DEUX FUCKING EX MACHINA.
You just need a good script, good acting and good direction. It's not fucking hard.
― aldo, Saturday, 14 June 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link
All those things are actually quite hard, hence the problem.
― chap, Saturday, 14 June 2008 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Well they seem to be when Rusty and his mates do it.
― aldo, Saturday, 14 June 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Or rather, they seem to be when Rusty doesn't know what they are (which appears to be almost all the time).
Also, did we notice Gay Agendar this week? "She left me, went to another planet." Didn't spot Atheist Agendar, will wait for the experts to do that.
― aldo, Saturday, 14 June 2008 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Ah, come on aldo, it's not like old who had those three things very often either. (Also aldo, I agree that it'd be good if you could ease off with the spoilers here a bit (wrt to your upthread comments re Captain Jack, etc)).
― JimD, Saturday, 14 June 2008 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link
I think this episode might still be a hint of what's to come - there have been a couple of flickers of it earlier in the series but the Doctor going "ooh I'm so clever" and then being led to the brink of death by something he totally failed to get the measure of only to be bailed out by something else might certainly be foreshadowing of whatever happens to him next week.
I love the hint dropping and big clumpy aliens though and am not ashamed. This series has been better at getting the balance right than most though.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 14 June 2008 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
They've definitely toned down the All Powerful Jesus Doctor this year THANK FUCK, maybe they realised they went a bit overboard on it last time round and Newly Falliable Doctor is the result.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 14 June 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Is it a spoiler if the BBC have formally announced it?
That's the thing, the old series did have them that often. It had masses of clunkers too, I'm not denying it did.
― aldo, Saturday, 14 June 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
When the angry mob were saying how up himself the Doctor is, you were kind of thinking OTM, and I think you were supposed to.
― chap, Saturday, 14 June 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Loved this, but it does seems like half this series so far has ended with a minor character’s heroic self sacrifice on behalf of the doctor saving the day.
― nari, Saturday, 14 June 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link
One of the things I love most about Doctor Who is the amount of different types of story it can act as a vehicle for, it's almost multi-genre (or multi-subgenre, at least).
― chap, Saturday, 14 June 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh. Um, dunno then, technically. But I didn't know about it, so it's a spoiler for me.
Well, doesn't matter, not like it'll hurt me to just avoid this thread for a few weeks, if need be. Or, you know, you could just flag them anyway, to be on the safe side, and then everyone's happy.
Also great about this one: Doc goes off without companion and gets into all sorts of trouble. Nice way to reinforce the idea that he needs his companions, and that they're not just there to ask daft questions for us.
― JimD, Saturday, 14 June 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link
so strange to this american viewer, who's used to commercial breaks! i was waiting for a moment to go to the bathroom.
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 14 June 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link