have you quit the labour party yet?

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Apparently this also makes him a grifter? Who knew!

steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 21 March 2024 12:33 (two months ago) link

Meanwhile I'm thinking the lad might still vote for them even after all this

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 March 2024 12:34 (two months ago) link

No, I’m sure a huge part of the reason he’s left is that Emily Thornberry (his MP) has been extremely shifty over Gaza. They have been good friends in the past and often canvassed together. I’m sure people in Labour who are dissatisfied with the direction of the party generally stick around as members if they like their MP.

steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 21 March 2024 12:45 (two months ago) link

"We Deserve Better" looks likely to be effective as "Enough is Enough" in terms of results, but fuck it, if it helps to run scum like Starmer and Streeting close in the numbers, it will have ben worth it. And it may help in Bristol West too. I have to say, I do admire Jones' stances lately, and his videos have been very useful in helping to educate my parents. My mum has really changed her opinion of Starmer and Labour because of him. And I really can't see how this is beneficial to his career, despite solidifying his brand. In any case, it's a good brand.

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 21 March 2024 14:11 (two months ago) link

We all remember his video encouraging us to vote Labour last year - it does genuinely seem to be Gaza which has pushed him over the edge, and you have to respect that.

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 21 March 2024 14:15 (two months ago) link

I’m a big football fan, I go to England games, men, women’s games. And the flag is used by everybody, it’s unifying, it doesn’t need to change. We just need to be proud of it. So I think they should just reconsider this and change it back.

AlanSmithee, Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:35 (two months ago) link

hahaha we're back baby pic.twitter.com/z9QG2TFCE5

— Frank Sobotka (@cymrurouge) March 24, 2024

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 24 March 2024 13:18 (two months ago) link

Bring it on.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 March 2024 13:33 (two months ago) link

Lol I thought they were going to to do Euan Blairs ex

plax (ico), Sunday, 24 March 2024 16:16 (two months ago) link

This is much funnier

plax (ico), Sunday, 24 March 2024 16:16 (two months ago) link

I think Euan Blair’s ex will be running in the constituency where she lives (and ran as a LibDem last time).

steely flan (suzy), Sunday, 24 March 2024 16:29 (two months ago) link

i just don't see Mason happening, he's too embarrassing even for Labour 2024 and doesn't seem to be acknowledged by anybody in the party that matters

strongly hoping for him to get a chance tho, it'll surely be the comedy highlight of the election

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 March 2024 17:20 (two months ago) link

his main problem is that he isn't even a useful idiot for Starmer Labour. Nobody takes him seriously and he didn't come close in his 3(?) previous attempts at standing in low-key seats. God knows why he thinks he can take on the Jam man, who is popular, respected and is taken seriously - especially on his own patch. If Labour right do run him against Corbyn it would be no-risk for them, because he's certain to lose and none of them really give a shit about him. He was an early Starmer adopter and even he doesn't give a shit about him.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:21 (two months ago) link

good thread

That's just the tip of the iceberg.

Here's another selection mentioned in the Telegraph report.

Unless you believe that such a wildly unbelievable discrepancy is in fact plausible, there's only one conclusion: the results have been tampered with. pic.twitter.com/VsYD37Ulc3

— Angus Satow (@AngusSatow) March 28, 2024

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 28 March 2024 13:30 (two months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/30/starmer-faces-discontent-as-labour-mps-criticise-election-flyers-union-jacks

Other Labour guidance to members on branding states that a “primary palette” of colours including “Labour red”, “flag blue” as well as white and black should predominate colour when producing “content or positive messaging”.

A “secondary palette” has been composed to match messaging relating to Labour’s “missions”. They are “growth pink”, “green energy green”, “NHS blue”, “policing yellow” and “opportunity purple”.

soref, Saturday, 30 March 2024 08:04 (two months ago) link

I Am Opportunity (Purple)

soref, Saturday, 30 March 2024 08:05 (two months ago) link

yeah i'm not voting for this brown

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 March 2024 08:20 (two months ago) link

they have exhibited so much islamophobia for decades, like for instance briefing the press that they are "shaking off some fleas" in response to muslim voters rejecting them, and their apologists have the nerve to say they are reclaiming the flag from the far right

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 March 2024 14:18 (two months ago) link

policing yellow of course, who can forget such sayings as the boys in yellow and the thin yellow line

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Saturday, 30 March 2024 14:19 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

:o

Sir Keir Starmer’s Labour party is set to unveil a weakened package of workers’ rights in the coming weeks in its latest softening of radical policies ahead of the upcoming general election, the Financial Times has learnt https://t.co/7QepJW4wLE

— Jim Pickard 🐋 (@PickardJE) May 1, 2024

“The whole tone of everything they’ve been saying on workers’ rights has been attempting to be constructive compared to a couple of months ago,” said one lobbyist.

One business leader said that after several meetings with the party, they were now “pretty relaxed” about its…

— Jim Pickard 🐋 (@PickardJE) May 1, 2024

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 12:13 (one month ago) link

cunts

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 12:24 (one month ago) link

On May Day too; could they be trolling the left again?

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 12:24 (one month ago) link

love to see exploitative millionaires looking relaxed

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 16:26 (one month ago) link

Well. Cameronite inner circle former Conservative MP and former Tory minister Nick Boles introduces shadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves speech on the economy to business… we knew he was advising the shadow team, but still quite something to see him her introducing her. pic.twitter.com/4un3R4KasB

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) May 7, 2024

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 12:06 (three weeks ago) link

Ugh, that nauseatingly smug wanker.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 May 2024 12:18 (three weeks ago) link

But enough about Rachel Reeves

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 12:24 (three weeks ago) link

But enough about Rachel Reeves

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 12:24 (three weeks ago) link

the unauthorised autobiography of Rachel Reeves that is just a series of plagiarised posts and c+ped wikipedia entries put together in a few hours will be very dull, but still you will get a sense of the dark sociopathic void harboured where most humans have a soul.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 7 May 2024 13:08 (three weeks ago) link

🧵1/5: All the warnings Unite made about the dangers of @UKLabour rowing back on its pledges for the 'New Deal for Workers' have been proved right. This new #Labour document on the New Deal, issued to the unions on Monday, is a row back on a row back. https://t.co/2taowMcaOF

— Sharon Graham (@UniteSharon) May 8, 2024

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 8 May 2024 21:34 (three weeks ago) link

2/5: It is totally unrecognisable from the original proposals produced with the unions. UNRECOGNISABLE! Workers will see through this and mark this retreat after retreat as a betrayal. #Labour @UKLabour

— Sharon Graham (@UniteSharon) May 8, 2024

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 8 May 2024 21:34 (three weeks ago) link

idk Sharon maybe stop giving them money or something

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 21:54 (three weeks ago) link

Problem is, members voted against disaffiliation last year. Wonder if they can vote again soon

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 8 May 2024 22:18 (three weeks ago) link

this article about the Labour left doesn't indicate there's much to be optimistic about, although Luke Akehurst still apparently has a touching faith that the Socialist Campaign Group remain a serious threat

https://www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/labour-left-keir-starmer-theyre-sealing-tomb-incinerating-it

Current and former SCG members who are critical of its leadership argue the group is ineffective and irrelevant as a parliamentary force. Some disagree with the policy of SCG membership being invitation-only and believe it should be open to the “soft left”.

“The lack of strategy is mind-blowing,” says one MP, who complains of “back-slapping” and a “dick-swinging competition”.

Some activists on the left are frustrated by what they call a “quietism” strategy from MPs. “Going over the top into machine gunfire… There’s lots of people screaming at us to do that. But is that the right thing to do?” the same MP asks. Another “quiet” Labour MP explains their approach: “People will say ‘where’s your backbone?’ but we employ teams of people and have families to support.”

One Labour source supportive of the leadership says they had expected the Labour left to organise within the party off the back of Starmer’s vulnerability on the politics around Gaza. “I’m surprised at how little they’ve taken advantage of it. If you can’t build a mass movement inside the Labour Party about this, what can you build it about?”

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 9 May 2024 06:35 (three weeks ago) link

A widely held forecast from the hopeful left goes as follows: Labour wins, but the honeymoon is short; the party is forced to choose between sinking in the polls and changing tack; deep divides with Starmer’s own cabinet come to the fore, weakening the Labour right; with public services still collapsing and local government in crisis, the leadership turns to the left for policy solutions. With free school meals extended, public ownership revived, and wealth taxes introduced, the Labour left is victorious.

this seems like castles in the air stuff, but idk maybe it's not any more implausible than the idea of building up a viable left party outside of Labour

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 9 May 2024 06:41 (three weeks ago) link

I think we have seen more than enough evidence that the right wing establishment of the party are more than happy to scuttle the ship and let the tories in rather than have the left get anything at all.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 9 May 2024 08:19 (three weeks ago) link

They have deliberately barred progressive wards from meeting, citing vague "recruitment irregularities", they have deselected left candidates, they have distanced themselves from trade unions - they have done far far more to actively undermine the politically organised left in this country than any Tory has even dreamed of

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 May 2024 08:27 (three weeks ago) link

People will say ‘where’s your backbone?’ but we employ teams of people and have families to support.

Absolutely baffling line of defense. Can't think of another country where failing to stand up for the ideals you got voted in for is met with a "listen, we got mouths to feed".

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 9 May 2024 08:53 (three weeks ago) link

Despicable, like any of these cunts are going to struggle to find cushy jobs if they're no longer MPs.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 09:06 (three weeks ago) link

Despicable, like any of these cunts are going to struggle to find cushy jobs if they're no longer MPs.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 09:06 (three weeks ago) link

And I third what these two gentlemen have just said.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 09:07 (three weeks ago) link

I’m sure Luciana is hiring over at InHouse:

https://inhouse.london/informed/inhouse-hires-former-labour-mp-luciana-berger-as-new-ceo/

steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 9 May 2024 09:20 (three weeks ago) link

Richard Burgon has a similar analysis. “When we hopefully get into power, we’re going to inherit a mess, and the left can play an important role in developing the ideas to help Labour meet the challenge it faces in office. We believe we can be useful for that end and have a significant input,” the SCG MP says.

“The left needs to have confidence in its ideas. Some of the stuff [Tony] Blair’s government did, particularly in its first term, like the national minimum wage and devolution, it was a lot of the stuff Tony Benn and the wider left had been talking about in the 20 or 30 years before. We’re not seeking to be oppositional; we’re seeking to be propositional.”

I know that this kind of talk is largely tactical, and they started doing it when Corbyn still was leader as a way of selling policies that opponents were trying to frame as extreme, but the amount of time some people on the left spend talking about the progressive aspects of the 1997-2001 Labour govt seems like a telling sign of how bad things are for the left at the moment

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 9 May 2024 10:07 (three weeks ago) link

it's a shame the CPoGB are so so shit, it should be a boom membership period for them with all these angry young commies about. but none of the smart and angry ones would touch 'em with a bargepole it seems. I'm guessing they have always been bad, at least since they supported the Molotov/Ribbentrop carve up of Poland. I tried to join them one night when I was a bit drunk and their system took a £1 admin fee off me without sending a confirmation email to me. That's not going to bring down capitalism to its knees!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 9 May 2024 11:13 (three weeks ago) link

Kieth promising more police state, what a party

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 May 2024 12:13 (three weeks ago) link

polis polis, get tae fuck
polis - get tae fuck

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 May 2024 13:04 (three weeks ago) link

Lisa Nandy is an utter scumbag.

glumdalclitch, Friday, 10 May 2024 14:00 (three weeks ago) link

just cut to the chase and announce the gunboats already u fucks

https://x.com/MikeTappTweets/status/1788893449384562863

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 10 May 2024 14:06 (three weeks ago) link

The Labour Party will secure the border under Keir Starmer, using a Border Command, including MI5.

My speech today.#securetheborder #Immigration #Tapp24 #Dover #Deal https://t.co/CjuGhkeKbW pic.twitter.com/PE7vUT4s5v

— Mike Tapp (@MikeTappTweets) May 10, 2024

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 10 May 2024 14:06 (three weeks ago) link

This is like when John Kerry appeared on stage with a phalanx of navy officers and saluted the Democratic National Convention as the confetti came down

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 May 2024 14:08 (three weeks ago) link


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