Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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“Who Will Buy My Memories?” (Mar A Lago remix featuring Pit Bull).

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:18 (two years ago)

The January 6 Hostage Choir- "I Ain't Got No Home in This World"

President Keyes, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:24 (two years ago)

Haha this is pretty obviously the guy himself calling into the NY Post and trying to spin this.

https://nypost.com/2024/03/20/business/donald-trump-may-not-pay-bond-and-instead-let-letitia-james-seize-trump-tower-insiders/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:43 (two years ago)

xpost

Donald Trump may not pay bond — and instead let Letitia James seize Trump Tower: insiders

As Donald Trump faces a Monday deadline to post a $454 million bond in the civil fraud case against him in New York, insiders said he may be weighing a little-discussed option: Doing nothing.

The ex-president reportedly has been struggling to raise the cash for the bond — either from banks or wealthy friends — with his lawyers claiming on Monday that it was a “practical impossibility.”

While some reports have raised speculation that Trump may “go nuclear” with a Chapter 11 filing to protect his prize real estate assets across Manhattan, experts said bankruptcy would create unwelcome complications as the 2024 election season comes to a head.

“He’s been there and done that,” one insider close to Trump said, dismissing the prospect of a Chapter 11 filing.

A third possibility, however, is to let the deadline pass, leaving it to New York Attorney General Letitia James to seize Trump’s bank accounts or buildings — including Trump Tower, from which he declared his 2016 presidential run, and which famously includes his personal penthouse.

It’s an option Trump appears to have considered – partly because he believes the chances are good that he could recover the assets on appeal, even if he is forced to take his case to the US Supreme Court, according to friends.

“Even if there is a taking, it doesn’t mean he can’t take it back later,” a source close to Trump told The Post.

A decision to do nothing poses risks of its own — among them that the New York AG’s Office has the right to sell off any properties it confiscates in order to recover the cash penalties it is owed.

“They are going after the money and that’s all he has a right to get back, not the buildings — unless the judgment is reversed before they are sold,” said Adam Leitman Bailey, a New York-based attorney who’s focused on the commercial real estate sector.

Sources friendly with Trump say the ex-president believes he has a strong case. Among other considerations, if the decision is not overturned, “it will have a chilling effect on people who do business in New York because it could happen to anyone,” according to one insider.

“There will be severe consequences — not an insurrection. People will stop doing business in New York. No one will take the risk, and lenders are now spooked. The real estate market is already a disaster, with office buildings worth a fraction of what they were once worth, and there are metastasizing effects when a large part of the city’s budget is from real estate.”

One source close to Trump insisted that he could raise funds from wealthy “friends and supporters,” but so far has not chosen this path.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:44 (two years ago)

I think he should definitely test these theories

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:46 (two years ago)

Yeah, not surprised that he's thinking that he can just bank on the Supreme Court he handpicked to bail him out.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:47 (two years ago)

as with all major and continuing crimes that we all commit on a daily basis, there shouldn't be any penalty or repercussions, but instead a third national election to decide our fate, after the first two ended with 1) losing and becoming president and 2) losing and not becoming president

z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:48 (two years ago)

“He’s not an ‘I’m passing the hat’ man — he doesn’t want pity or for anyone to feel sorry for him,” the source claimed.

He's a fuckin' grifter and so are you.

Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:53 (two years ago)

hot too hot too skimadee bing bong boom hot too

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:56 (two years ago)

lol at the NYAG responding that there is not reason Trump needs a $450 million bond when he can simply pursue multiple smaller denomination bonds.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:00 (two years ago)

lmao @ this "no one's gonna want to do business in New York if they can't commit massive fraud" line of reasoning here

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:01 (two years ago)

That's sort of the implicit "everybody does it!) defense of the (iirc?) Shark Tank asshole who keeps making the rounds, for some reason.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:05 (two years ago)

haley got 150k votes in the florida primary yesterday. the primary was closed (GOP) only, and voting began after haley withdrew. probably nothing.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:08 (two years ago)

Classic John Barron in that NY Post article.

Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:16 (two years ago)

xpost From the WaPo:

Yet again, we saw more Republican primary voters voting against Trump than Democratic ones voting against Biden.

About 1 in 5 voters voted against Trump in Arizona, Florida, Illinois and Ohio. And about one-quarter voted against him in Kansas.

By contrast, Biden ceded closer to 1 out of 10 votes in most states holding primaries Tuesday.

A few observations from the results and exit polls:

There has been some question about just how much Nikki Haley’s showings owe to early voters who cast ballots before she dropped out. But about half of Ohio’s early voting took place after she dropped out, meaning a significant protest vote appears to remain.

Exit polls there also showed 75 percent of Republican primary voters said they would “definitely” back Trump, with 9 percent “probably” backing him. The rest said they were leaning toward Biden (9 percent) or wouldn’t vote for either (7 percent).

It’s possible that includes many voters who were predisposed to voting against the GOP nominee and showed up to register their dismay, as appears to have happened in Georgia. But Florida’s primary Tuesday suggests there might be something more significant at play.

Nineteen percent of Florida GOP primary voters voted for a candidate not named Trump. (That included 4 percent for home-state Gov. Ron DeSantis, who dropped out of the race two months ago and whom Trump has attacked recently.)

That was actually less of a protest vote than in Illinois and Ohio. But crucially, Florida has closed primaries. That means only registered Republicans could vote. In many of these other states, independent voters and even Democrats could come out to vote against Trump, but that wasn’t the case in Florida.

Florida also began its mandatory early-voting period after Haley dropped out, meaning this appears to be more of a pure protest vote from actual Republicans.

If the trend holds, it appears as if about 1 in 5 GOP primary voters are just going to keep voting against Trump.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:13 (two years ago)

Also saw something about the Biden campaign focusing on Texas and Florida, not to win them, per se, but to force the (underfunded) RNC to spend there.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:15 (two years ago)

I was going to post something similar about The State With the Prettiest Name. I'm still not convinced that in November these anti-Trumpers won't vote for the fucker again b/c Biden the socialist is worse.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:20 (two years ago)

what did you want to say about idaho, soto?

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:30 (two years ago)

“He’s not an ‘I’m passing the hat’ man — he doesn’t want pity or for anyone to feel sorry for him,” the source claimed.

Oh wait, we must be talking about some other Donald Trump, one who doesn't bleat like an infant with colic over every tiny self-inflicted infraction he's ever suffered.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:06 (two years ago)

definitely feels like Trump could win back some of those voters by moderating his message instead of going with this "America sucks and everyone is laughing at us" thing, but he's now referring to the J6ers as "hostages" so I don't think that'll happen

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:12 (two years ago)

passing the hat w/ Trump is when somebody passes him the hat to pay what he owes them and he then walks outside Mar-a-Lago and hands the hat to the groupies standing outside, and then after collecting money and the hat owners come to pick up the hat and the money inside, and Trump says it's actually his hat, his dad gave it to him, everybody knows it was his hat.

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:14 (two years ago)

"America sucks and everyone is laughing at us"

this is the go-to line that my well-educated, very successful, and in almost every other way very thoughtful, and kind trumpy relations validate their trumpiness. to the extent they bother justifying it to me. my attempts to reason with them, or altly, to shame them, get sad eyerolls.

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:26 (two years ago)

"America sucks and everyone is laughing at us”.


It’s true, but for different reasons than they think.

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:29 (two years ago)

he's been using that line for a long time, dating back to at least the late 80s. in 2016 i watched a bunch of old videos of him and in the 80s he was obsessed with japan being evil and always said that everyone there was "laughing at us"

z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:41 (two years ago)

Most countries are rolling disasters, I don't think "they're laughing at us" has ever had much juice (even though both parties deploy it as they deem useful).

From that article about Trump's money squeeze, this line is hilarious: "People will stop doing business in New York." I could be wrong because it's not like I know any of them, but I really really do not think that many prominent business people see Trump's legal woes as indicative of anything except the consequences of being a bullshit artist, rapist and insurrectionist.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:42 (two years ago)

he was obsessed with japan being evil and always said that everyone there was "laughing at us"

he's been faking having hair for decades, i'm p sure people have always been laughing at him

Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:43 (two years ago)

People have been laughing at us for decades. Mostly because of Adam Sandler.

President Keyes, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:47 (two years ago)

Obviously America sucks, just look at NYC, where no one wants to live or visit because you run the risk of someone unhinged and crooked Very Unfairly taking your beautiful, perfect building from you.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:57 (two years ago)

Any voter who cites "other countries are laughing at us" as their reason to vote for Trump are just using it as a convenient blanket statement expressing their messy, incoherent emotions about the world around them, but the bulk of those emotions are fear, hatred, greed, and confusion because that's the whole basis of Trump's appeal.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:26 (two years ago)

you think you're gonna take America away
with your money and your cocaine

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:31 (two years ago)

It wasn't that long ago that assembled world leaders did, in fact, laugh at him.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:43 (two years ago)

the it could happen to anyone part of the "one insider"'s quote from that Post article is killing me

dell (del), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 19:22 (two years ago)

they asked melania if she was going to campaign with her husband all she said was: "Stay tuned"". still waters run...still.

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 19:26 (two years ago)

that's literally all she said. i think that's all she has said in public since Trump was actually President.

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 19:26 (two years ago)

Melania & Kate up in heaven smoking blunts.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 19:30 (two years ago)

Waiting for when he finally refers to his youngest tallest son as Barack

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 19:31 (two years ago)

lol

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 19:36 (two years ago)

The tone is getting a little Jack Lemmon-in-Glengarry Glen Ross, honestly.

Donald Trump sent out a frantic fundraising plea centered around the possibility that Trump Tower might be seized as part of the massive New York fraud judgment leveled against him.

The former president's lawyers notified the court that none of 30 underwriting entities they approached would finance the half-billion bond he needs to pay as he appeals the fraud judgment, which means the New York attorney general's office could begin seizing his properties next week if he fails to pay by Monday's deadline.

"KEEP YOUR FILTHY HANDS OFF TRUMP TOWER!" reads a fundraising email sent to supporters. "Insane radical Democrat AG Letitia James wants to SEIZE my properties in New York. THIS INCLUDES THE ICONIC TRUMP TOWER!"

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:00 (two years ago)

COVFEFE is for closers

President Keyes, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:05 (two years ago)

not sure if "donate now to help me keep this giant building" is an effective fundraising strategy

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:06 (two years ago)

ironic trump tower

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:07 (two years ago)

Maybe Trump should try to sell some single smokes outside Trump tower to raise some funds or open up an Only Fans site.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:09 (two years ago)

How many two dollar donations will it take to save this iconic skyscraper?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:09 (two years ago)

xpost - I think it's more the continued grift to his supporters of, "if they can do this to me, they can do it to you too! don't let them seize my property or they'll come for you next". always gotta milk that righteous indignation

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:09 (two years ago)

Next week the Donald will have to move into Trump Trailer if things don’t work out.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:11 (two years ago)

Hoping George Soros buys the iconic tower

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:12 (two years ago)

I still remember the first time I visited New York, circa 1989, and was struck by just how ugly Trump Tower is. It looks like a giant turd on Fifth Avenue.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:13 (two years ago)

Which is what made it all the more surprising when the Trump tower in Chicago didn't look like dogshit. That is it didn't before he had to piss his name all over the side in giant letters.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:14 (two years ago)

Hoping George Soros buys the iconic tower

and immediately demolishes it

walking on the beach in a force ten gale (Matt #2), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:18 (two years ago)

it's a very sad situation

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:27 (two years ago)


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