The Bear on FX: aka HEARD! aka YES CHEF! aka Ketamine Gene Wilder cooks for u

I will change my mind if this turns into the "she's not Rachem" thing from Friends but I never read that scene as a door inherently shutting

Strong agree that Syd/Carmy is a terrible idea. It's such a good depiction of a platonic working relationship, which has it's own kind of non-romantic intimacy. Torpedoing that with some cliche romance shit would put me off the show forever.

I think Claire leaving had such a sense of finality simply because it happened at the end of the season. In any other context it would definitely feel more like a temporary hurdle in the relationship.

Camry not being a toxic chef, as far as sexualizing his workplace, has been so key to the show. Yeah, it’ll turn a corner if that develops.

xpost yeah but tv seasons always have *big events* in the season finale that don't always have permanence.

otm, not hard to imagine season 3 opening a few weeks/months after season 2 ended, as they creep up on the actual opening of the restaurant (guessing some setbacks will pop up to delay the official thing), with Carmy and Claire working on patching things up.

absolutely, if Carmy and Syd get together romantically, it will absolutely ruin the show for me. I hope the creators are smarter than that.

tangentially, scenes are being filmed not terribly far from my house, though I haven't seen much signs of it. the crew (sadly no cast) popped into the local brewery I really dig though.

Hell, if they really want to throw people for a loop, S3 could start right after the closing of the new place, with everyone cleaning their wounds and figuring out what comes next.

just do a timejump 11 years into the future, Carmy has a kid, a wife we've never seen before, and a huge mustache, the restaurant is long gone and destroyed in a fire set by Chicago mobsters, Richie has a reality show about managing restaurants, Syd has her own Michelin-starred restaurant, and there's this new character Jules who has a wacky catch-phrase that he invented in the in-between times and since we're not privy to its origins it doesn't make sense

lol. Or maybe it can start with Carmy's kid on a space station, trying to spruce up the bad space food (which may have been an actual plot line of the most recent season of For All Mankind, unless I imagined it).

haha I love that I can find this thread by searching "ketamine"

so there is gonna be a Season 4 too?!?!

https://www.avclub.com/bear-season-4-renewal-back-to-back-1851337717

Yep yep, may be shooting back-to-back.

hay guys what if season 3 starts with a BAD REVIEW in the newspaper and then everybody has to team up to make a really good meal and win the critic over? And then the critic is Carmy’s mom in disguise.
Just putting it out there.

i’m so ready for moar seasons

Chicago news is making sure everyone knows that S3 is filming.

Season three they decide to bail on the Michelin thing and go back to being a beef sandwich joint.

no, time for a fast casual concept.

Richie is replaced by touchscreen terminals.

Fisher Stevens plays an evil beef sandwich restaurant owner from several counties over who is planning on opening a new location....across the street

Mikey faked his death, reopens o.g. The Beef two blocks away from The Bear.

Carm steps away from The Bear to make The Bear, a TV show about a troubled chef who

holy shit, I could totally imagine a future shitty season set in LA, on a set, with Carmy a consultant on a shitty show based on their story, while the rest of the crew tries to open up a new place without him. And of course we all know how that season ends: getting the band back together again.

but he has to solve/commit a murder while in LA

To Live and Fry in LA

Open for service 6/27!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHiwdDFPsZY

YES
CHEF

new trailer looks stressful af and i am here for it

hm
Claire detected

Those bowls are definitely different sizes.

I loved the first 2 seasons and that trailer fills me with dread. Carmy is turning into the Joel McHale character and I don't want to watch that. I don't know if I even want to watch him approach that precipice, wake up and back off.

idk I mean he kinda had a few out of character moments in S2 where he was explosive to his employees to where they quit, before recognizing what he did, owning it and atoning. like screaming at his employee "WHY ARE YOU FUCKING ME RIGHT NOW?" over and over again. still far removed from McHale's "you should die" levels of abuse but far beyond anything he'd done up until that point.

I feel like wrestling w/ the devil is something lots of kitchen managers struggle with, because of its high intensity, and of course the power trip some take w/ it, and unfortunately from my own experience, most of them seem to lose. can't imagine the writers will outright send Carmy completely into that rabbit hole though, it's definitely a show that wants us to root for him.

xp - otm, my first reaction to that trailer was "fuck, I hope they don't lean in to making him a stock asshole chef character" but trailers be trailering

Feels more like coked Gene Wilder by E2?

well by s3 he’s meth gene wilder bc our Carmy has lost his everloving mind

trent & atticus score is uh chefs kiss :D

imo the overall thesis of this series: being a chef at the fine-dining level gives you brain damage

ive only watched s3e1 and i am afraid to watch the rest carmy is going to tank so hard ughhhhhhhhhhh

Oh no, I don't want that. Why couldn't they just have run Chicago's greatest sandwich shop with occasional risotto?

Bc brain damage. I thought the first ep of S3 was sort of boring?

*Slight spoiler for first episode*

Since the show has the convention of the traumatic flashbacks in key moments, 5-10 seconds long in a character's head, I liked how this episode felt like expanding one of those flashbacks into a full stream-of-consciousness episode. I'm still wary about this going from a show about DIY teamwork to one about fine dining (especially getting Amex fine-dining ads, since I'm watching Hulu with ads), but I trust the show knows what it's doing.

Why is it still billed as a comedy??

30-minute Dramas aren't really a thing.

also once a genre is determined it is just locked in, it rarely if ever changes, as far as streaming platforms go

Interesting. So it is I guess. I remember laughing when the ceiling fell.

It's a really funny show, albeit in the same way Hill Street or Mad Men were where they working under a mask of Drama.

i watched one episode from season 1 last night where the toilet explodes, Richie walks into work with these sunglasses on and is all "what's up my replicants" and then gets in a wrestling match with Fak. i laughed a lot

also miami vice password
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"I'm not like this because I'm in Van Halen. I'm in Van Halen because I'm like this."

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The idea of watching this does not seem at all appealing right now, although I'm sure there will be a few great episodes.

it’s fun mixed with mild stretches of occasional boredom, perfect tv!!!

ONE OF US ONE OF US

I watched the first two seasons, I'm just curious if s3 has more or less of the stuff I didn't like about the first two (clipped from upthread):

Finished s2, this is such a weird show. Obviously there's a lot to like, but half the time it feels like watching a WB show. When there's not kitchen yelling happening, it's often cloyingly sentimental with really corny dialogue (just shot in a gritty hand-held close-up that makes it feel arty).

Yeah idk, it just feels like there's a lot of padding around the good and more unique stuff in this show. The dialogue in the Carmy/Claire scenes and some of the Al-Anon monologues is kinda trite, and the montages of people ordering and eating food at restaurants and cafes is nice but could be out of any food/travel show (albeit with more tasteful music here). I really enjoyed the Copenhagen episode, but the random slice of life bits (like the injured cyclist) felt plucked out of other shows like High Maintenance and Atlanta.