Sense of place, sense of character, sense of humor, sense of tragedy of failed lives: he knows what he's doing, if these things matter to a viewer. Knows it on the level of Chekhov in Sideways, The Descendants, and The Holdovers.
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Sunday, 10 March 2024 21:22 (two months ago) link
Note how the two scenes unfold on a near line-by-line basis: 1. Paul/Wills is working in his room/on the ward. 2. A messenger interrupts him to tell him his boss wants him. 3. Paul/Wills self-importantly tells the messenger to tell his boss he is busy. 4. The messenger tells Paul/Willis he actually must go now. 5. Paul/Wills reluctantly acquiesce
These are all like unbelievably stock scenes that you can find “line by line transpositions” of in films from the 1920s. I almost feel worse for this guy than I would if his movie really had been plagiarized, the deeper you go into detailed examples the more sad/pathetic it seems. Payne-esque, even!
― waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 11 March 2024 16:37 (two months ago) link
Yeah at first I was willing to give it credence because he's not just a random loon but an actual produced screenwriter, but the more you see it it's ridiculous.
― from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 11 March 2024 16:44 (two months ago) link
Paul/Wills is called to adventure.Paul/Wills refuses the call.Paul/Wills embarks on a road of trials.
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 11 March 2024 21:12 (two months ago) link
The but where he’s like “clearly they used software to do this” 🫣Also is the character called fucking Wills or Willis, in the holdovers the guy has the same name all the way thru
― cozen itt (wins), Monday, 11 March 2024 21:17 (two months ago) link
The Plagiarism Today blog has a thoughtful backgrounder on this:https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2024/03/11/why-the-holdovers-is-not-a-plagiarism/
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 10:25 (two months ago) link
Though it contains a qualifier of note:
My Analysis Note: I have not seen The Holdovers nor have I read Frisco. This analysis is based solely on the allegations provided by Stephenson and the follow ups shared by other screenwriters.
― Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 10:40 (two months ago) link
Saw "The Holdovers." I thought it was really well directed and acted, but the story and writing ultimately didn't transcend its more familiar/predictable beats.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 March 2024 03:59 (two months ago) link
Yeah my take too. Also nice to see snow, albeit in a movie.
― from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 17 March 2024 14:10 (two months ago) link
I keep thinking of him saying "your toes would curl!"
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 17 March 2024 18:51 (two months ago) link