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Corbyn 4 Speaker

nm he likes being an actual MP too much

Can anyone do a tldr on what happened with hoyle today and why i should care? feels like dropping into a shit soap opera.

I think basically Starmer, acting like a gangster PM elect, threatened ArseHoyle's future speakership if he didn't break with standard parliamentary procedures to protect his ass from a Labour rebellion. The kind of lawless behaviour FBPEs had no truck with when Boris Johnson did it. Probably a poor summary but I don't really gaf what goes on these days.

This seems like a pretty succinct summary

To clarify, Labour masterminded a parliamentary manoeuvre to avoid a vote on an awkward SNP motion and then instead of owning that they’ve blamed protestors, thus prompting a new moral panic about politically active muslims?

— Michael Walker (@michaeljswalker) February 22, 2024

Labour's message to us?

We will not act as an Opposition nor will we let anyone else act as an Opposition.

There will be no opposition. Fuck you all.

— Priyamvada Gopal © (@PriyamvadaGopal) February 21, 2024

Also a pretty succinct summary

Just the other day I was slightly surprised to find Starmer seemingly on the right side of history on the Operation Spanner Wiki page:

There was immediate criticism of the investigation and trial in 1990, with the Gay London Policing Group describing the sentences as "outrageous" and Andrew Puddephat, general secretary of Liberty, calling for a "right to privacy enshrined in law".[52] Keir Starmer said the judiciary had "effectively imposed its morality on others" and argued the "unrepresentative make-up of the judiciary makes it ill-equipped to do this".[63] The Pink Paper branded the case a homophobic "show trial" designed to "get a clear ruling on the illegality of S&M sex, especially amongst gay men".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Spanner

Michael Martin resigned after 22 MPs expressed no confidence in him, Hoyle is up to 53 (and counting)

... just gone up to 54!

Well no worries, he's got the full support of (checks notes)

Lindsay Hoyle has been an exemplary Speaker the best I have known he is always fair & even-handed & has taken the most active role in the care & support of all Members he should be thanked & supported.

— Barry Sheerman MP (@BarrySheerman) February 21, 2024

calzino's pal

Extremely good and tenable position for a speaker to be in, all parties but one calling on him to resign and the other party saying he's great what's the problem lol

I'm always hearing that Starmer's a reluctant leader who's only doing it out of a sense of duty etc, he sure doesn't act like it! Proper shakedown. Anyway good to hear the UK political class are so earnestly concerned about the situation in Gaza they're prepared to put aside ideological differences to propose a ceasefire motion that Israel won't care about.

love to see our leaders fighting viciously over exactly what form of doing absolutely nothing they will adopt

heh, the moral support from a doddering relic of the Labour Right who announced he was stepping down 2 years ago (to the unanimous applause of his constituents) will be a huge boost for Speaker Arsehoyle. Which has reminded me that Frank Field is still alive, or was he ever alive?

She claims that at least Jeremy Corbyn, the previous Labour leader, genuinely believed in his positon on Gaza. She claims Keir Starmer was not sincere in his position, and that this shows he is not fit to lead.

Penny Mordaunt otm

a bold stance to take less than 24 hours after starmer's biographer assured us that he is in fact a man who believes in many things, eg his niece being beaten up is bad not good

Starmer categorically denies threatening the Speaker. I think we can take that as a confession then.

Hoyle is now saying he did it because he wanted to protect MPs from possible repercussions, I assume from evil Muslims, after the vote. Sack the cunt.

god forbid mp's should vote on anything difficult or consequential eh? what kind of argument is that? these fucking pricks.

I remember when Corbyn looking at an MP the wrong way was enough to draw cries of authoritarianism, but this shit with the votes is fine. Great preview of the next government, can’t wait.

I have lost count of the number or times you have told me, "the door is over there". I don’t think you realise how disrespectful and intimidating this is to me as a Black woman on the Left. Or perhaps you do. 5/6 pic.twitter.com/6MxhbVEXht

— Bell Ribeiro-Addy MP (@BellRibeiroAddy) February 23, 2024

this guy seems like a total prick and should stop tweeting, but it's weird to see left-wing twitter go all-in on describing this as harassment when they've spent the last few days warning against conflating harassment with criticism of MPs. What definition of harassment would you come up with that includes this guy but doesn't include e.g. someone tweeting repeatedly at an MP who's a spokesperson for Labour Friends of Israel or something? (and yeah, I know part of the issue is later is seized on as a threat to democracy and the former gets quietly ignored, but is there any principal here except that it's bad when it happens to people you like and good when it happens to people you dislike?)

piling onto a racist Starmer supporting prick is fine, no tedious self-reflection is required here imo.

"worst general election result in the history of our glorious democracy" is strangely reluctant to question what it means when Starmer inevitably gets significantly less votes than Corbyn at the next GE

he will get less votes than Corbyn did and do better, these cunts would be happy with the lowest turnout of the postwar era as long as they win. At the time Prof D Edgerton pointed out that the goal of of democratic parties should be to get the support and votes of as many of the voting population as they can, and on that metric Corbyn's worst ever election had a larger popular vote than Blair's last winning election.

well exackly. and this raises a shitload of questions on what the "winning is everything" camp want and believe, but they are questions that they're strangely incoherent on or refuse to answer

So there is actually a Legal Immigration Minister and an Illegal Immigration Minister. The latter wants locking up in that case.

But are there two Shadow Immigration Ministers as well?

The vote share stuff seems largely to be a factor of if the Liberal Democrats are a factor or not but in raw numbers both Corbyn and May did pretty well in 2017 on relatively high turnout (highest of any of the post 1997 elections)

Turnout is pretty interesting, huge drop off in 2001 at 59%, first time below 70%. Has recovered back above 60 since then but never 70. 1951 the highest at 83%

https://I.imgur.com/FmrLjze.png

Lol. Shadow Illegal Immigration minister is like WaLuigi, the inversion of an inversion

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2024/feb/23/charlotte-benton-obituary

Read this obit with some sadness. The life, opportunities that are now being denied.

Illegal Immigration Minister get's paid cash-in-hand and arrives late for work every signing on day and is commiting housing benefit fraud, human rights obligations? fuck that shit as well!

The market is working

Absolutely devastating stat for the government today: in the 12 months to 30 Sep 2023, more people were made homeless than bought their first home.

164,630 households owed a homelessness relief duty by their council
126,100 households claimed First Time Buyer Stamp Duty Relief

— Dan Wilson Craw 🇺🇦🥑🏘 (@danwilsoncraw) February 29, 2024

Devastating stat for the government, I'm sure they've mandated mourning dress

Lol

GEORGE GALLOWAY HAS DIFFERENT CAMPAIGN LETTERS FOR WHITE AND MUSLIM HOUSEHOLDS IN ROCHDALE 😭😭😭😭😭😭 pic.twitter.com/swSsfQxf2t

— saad 🇬🇧 ⸆⸉ (@crowndefensx) February 29, 2024

Father-of-six George Galloway in!

did I really see a video of Liz Truss describing Galloway as a "hardcore Islamist" to Bannon in front of a crowd of braying US white supremacists - have no idea what is real any more. Might have even dreamt it.

Hardcore opportunist more like

Still, lol Labour

Congratulations to <checks notes> Elvis Costello

Rochdale got me thinking about how Leadbeater is on borrowed time and somehow I missed that Batley & Spen is getting split into two new constituencies, now it will be Batley + Dewsbury and Spen Valley. "After months of “soul searching” Ms Leadbeater" i.e. blatant career self-interest she decided that the rather more white Spen Valley is where she will be standing at the next GE.

LOLbour in fourth place, even the Tories beat them. Reform 6th, even the Lib Dems beat them.

I'm calling it "the worst by-election result for Labour since the 1930's" even if it isn't.

George Galloway won by appealing to disaffected white voters as well as Muslim ones – sharp on-the-ground analysis by @Anoosh_C. https://t.co/pCnk5Jfull

— George Eaton (@georgeeaton) March 1, 2024

In Rochdale, he used anti-woke talking points, and spoke about tackling grooming gangs: a racially tense aspect of the town’s recent history.

Useful to be reminded what a prick he is while so annoyingly OTM about one big issue.

Pretty sure he’s a terf as well

He's vile, that's for sure.

he's an opportunist + a bigoted piece of shit, but when I said this to an Asian woman this morning I think she took it that I was saying this as a Labour supporter. Didn't have time to explain I'm not polarised on this matter, lol