Right, I think the Manchin is helping to provide cover to other senators who are not comfortable with losing the filibuster.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:28 (two years ago)
also just the legislation he was blocking was stuff that for sure at least a handful of other dems were probably not enthusiastic about
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:30 (two years ago)
Right.
At any rate he and the seat are gone in November, so the Dems will find another Trojan horse.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:39 (two years ago)
hey I didn't know anything about James Hemings until today*, so thanks Donald Trump thread Josh!
* pedantic note: saying he "invented" ice cream is not accurate—it had existed for thousands of years before he was born—but he did introduce it, macaroni and cheese, french fries, and a bunch of other French dishes to the US
― rob, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:45 (two years ago)
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, February 21, 2024 9:39 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
theres a term for it i was trying to google it only turned up heat shield but i dont think thats it
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:47 (two years ago)
I think Jefferson/Hemings are credited with popularizing it in America, that's why he gets a lot of credit. This is a good history:
https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/ice-cream/
A little later another Black White House chef, Augustus Jackson, is credited with modernizing it in the US:
Jackson worked in the White House, too, as a chef for the First families, including James and Dolley Madison. (Apparently, the First Lady had eclectic taste that included ice cream studded with oysters.) After his tenure, he launched an ice cream business in Philadelphia, where many other Black pastry chefs and confectioners specialized in ice cream. One of Jackson’s big innovations was making ice cream more stable by adding salt to the recipe, which lowers the freezing temperature. It also enhances other flavors. But that’s not all that Jackson did for ice cream.While most early ice creams were frozen egg custards, Jackson developed a lighter kind of ice cream. “It was this eggless, uniquely American style,” Hopkins says. “And at some point, we made an industry out of it.” Jackson is the reason why many ice cream recipes now do not have eggs.Jackson prospered by selling his ice cream to parlors and ice cream vendors in Philadelphia who were predominantly Black. And as Black ice cream entrepreneurs moved north during The Great Migration, as Hopkins’ podcast details, they spread ice cream culture.
One of Jackson’s big innovations was making ice cream more stable by adding salt to the recipe, which lowers the freezing temperature. It also enhances other flavors. But that’s not all that Jackson did for ice cream.
While most early ice creams were frozen egg custards, Jackson developed a lighter kind of ice cream. “It was this eggless, uniquely American style,” Hopkins says. “And at some point, we made an industry out of it.” Jackson is the reason why many ice cream recipes now do not have eggs.
Jackson prospered by selling his ice cream to parlors and ice cream vendors in Philadelphia who were predominantly Black. And as Black ice cream entrepreneurs moved north during The Great Migration, as Hopkins’ podcast details, they spread ice cream culture.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:58 (two years ago)
the First Lady had eclectic taste that included ice cream studded with oyster
baller move
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:03 (two years ago)
At any rate he and the seat are gone in November, so the Dems will find another Trojan horse
That being once again being the minority party in the Senate, no?
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:05 (two years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut6MSMqxmlE
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:05 (two years ago)
ah yeah I read about Jackson too! Super interesting history
trenchant thought: historians should stop doings surveys on which slaveowning aristocrat and/or war criminal presidents had the best vibes, and start telling us about the history of mac and cheese
― rob, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:10 (two years ago)
Does any other nation have such a robust canonical survey mechanism for ranking their own heads of state?
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:11 (two years ago)
Of course not -- we are, to quote Agnew, the greatest country in the history of the nation.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:13 (two years ago)
need to be ranking byzantine emperors instead, this guy went to harvard and sat on the boards of weapons manufactures after he left office who cares, lets talk about guys who had their step mothers blinded and sent to nunneries
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:15 (two years ago)
Yeah holding the Senate seems like mostly a lost cause. I got a lil shiver the other day at the prospect of waking up in November with Republicans actually in charge of everything, which is clearly a non-zero possibility. I do think the Dems will take back the House, but who knows.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:20 (two years ago)
he inspired the classic song i cant drive 5 by sammy the red rocker hagar xp
Talk about the nanny state
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:09 (two years ago)
what was he driving, a lawnmower?
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:12 (two years ago)
nah even that would get higher than 5
Maybe drunk driving an electric wheelchair around Cabo Wabo
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:14 (two years ago)
french fries, and a bunch of other French dishes
But not, apparently, French dressing.
Anyway back to the most important topic - which is, of course, ice cream.
There was a 19th century custom where you got a glass container called a penny lick; they were intentionally designed to look more full of ice cream than they actually were. Generally I think you were supposed to return them.
Sometimes (apparently) a boy would follow you to retrieve the cup.
St. Louisans sometimes claim that the ice cream cone was invented for the 1904 World's Fair. Which is not quite right, but some St. Louisans just can't ever shut up about the Fair. There are some good things about that city, but. If I had peaked 120 years ago? I might start looking for new things to talk about.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:44 (two years ago)
Yeah the World's Fair story is Italo Marchiony erasure: https://www.idfa.org/the-history-of-the-ice-cream-cone
(I was just reading about the history of ice cream cone production for work-related reasons not long ago.)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:57 (two years ago)
Yes, waffles already existed, and pastry-based cones are an ancient concept.
Trying to swerve back to the topic, Donald Trump likes McDonald's and McDonald's prefers to sell its ice cream-esque products in cups, rather than cones. Their milkshakes contain algae, and they seem to have stopped including a maraschino cherry. I choose to blame Donald Trump.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:14 (two years ago)
those milkshakes bring all the puke to my mouth
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:21 (two years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI-xhtOhvGg
Conspiring with Grimace on his deadly milkshakes
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:24 (two years ago)
McDonald's makes concrete milkshakes to throw at cops, boycott this woke corporation
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:29 (two years ago)
McDonald's prefers to sell its ice cream-esque products in cups, rather than cones… and they seem to have stopped including a maraschino cherry.I haven’t been inside a McDonalds since the 20th century, but turns out I still have the capacity to find their regional variations fascinating
― bae (sic), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:46 (two years ago)
idk if they still do but I've been inside at least one McDonald's in Miami that has their own version of a Cuban sandwich.
it was, however, dogshit. i don't even think they used the right bread
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:47 (two years ago)
So you were not...
Lovin' it?
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:48 (two years ago)
Any time I've been in a McDonald's recently there's been a fight
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:57 (two years ago)
Who have you been fighting?
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:13 (two years ago)
Hamas
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:14 (two years ago)
It's pronounced "HAM-bur-gers"
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:32 (two years ago)
clam chowdare
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:33 (two years ago)
“Americans can expect that immediately upon President Trump’s return to the Oval Office, he will restore all of his prior policies, implement brand new crackdowns that will send shock waves to all the world’s criminal smugglers, and marshal every federal and state power necessary to institute the largest deportation operation in American history,” said Trump campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt…she seems nicehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/20/trump-mass-deportations-immigration/
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:57 (two years ago)
will they use cattle cars?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:59 (two years ago)
What are the odds on Kyle Rittenhouse being in the administration?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:08 (two years ago)
In the Department of Street Justice
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:09 (two years ago)
I mean, of course he’ll have a seat at the table.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:15 (two years ago)
Would love it if Kyle was ground into street tacos #onethread
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:18 (two years ago)
"Tastes like freedom!"
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:33 (two years ago)
serve him w/ freedom fries on a freedom bun
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:34 (two years ago)
leavitt out
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:36 (two years ago)
https://es.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/cckr.jpg
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:38 (two years ago)
^^ wtf is that?!?
― tobo73, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:32 (two years ago)
Not really up on him these days, but I stopped on Jimmy Kimmel last night and he was showing a clip of Trump selling shoes recently at "Sneaker Con." Truly, truly bizarre--maybe this was discussed already.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:39 (two years ago)
he was booed at SneakerCon, but also applauded.. sneaker fans are a mixed batch
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:40 (two years ago)
It's the politics of the sneaker gimps.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:47 (two years ago)
He'd have done better if he'd made Velcro versions of the sneakers and sold them in The Villages.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:47 (two years ago)
Yes, Newsweek is now a right-wing trash fire squatting on a once-worthwhile domain, but this is still pretty funny:
Donald Trump Wants to Negotiate with Judge Engoron
Donald Trump's attorney requested to propose a new judgment on Wednesday in the former president's civil fraud trial ruling, in which Judge Arthur Engoron ruled that Trump will be fined roughly $355 million.Context:In a lawsuit filed in September 2022, New York Attorney General Letitia James accused Trump, his two adult sons Donald Jr. and Eric, The Trump Organization and two firm executives, Allen Weisselberg and Jeff McConney, of fraudulently overvaluing assets to secure more favorable bank loans and taxation deals.On Friday, Engoron ruled that Trump will be fined roughly $355 million and barred from doing business in New York for three years after a monthslong civil trial from late last year into early January. The trial was to decide the damages Trump would face after Engoron found that he committed fraud by inflating the value of his assets. The other defendants in the case have also faced financial penalties and been barred from doing business in New York for periods of time.Trump, the current GOP frontrunner in the 2024 presidential election, has maintained his innocence in the case and claimed it was politically motivated.On Wednesday, Clifford Robert filed a letter in the New York City civil court addressed to Engoron which argues Trump was "deprived" of the chance to speak out against the ruling before it was filed.According to court records, Roberts requested the chance to propose a "counter-judgment" to Engoron's ruling, adding that it would be "contrary to fundamental fairness" if not allowed to submit a counter-judgment."Defendants therefore request that the Court set a return date for the Proposed Judgment that affords Defendants sufficient time to submit a proposed counter-judgment. To deprive Defendants of the opportunity to submit a proposed counter-judgment would be contrary to fundamental fairness and due process."
Context:In a lawsuit filed in September 2022, New York Attorney General Letitia James accused Trump, his two adult sons Donald Jr. and Eric, The Trump Organization and two firm executives, Allen Weisselberg and Jeff McConney, of fraudulently overvaluing assets to secure more favorable bank loans and taxation deals.
On Friday, Engoron ruled that Trump will be fined roughly $355 million and barred from doing business in New York for three years after a monthslong civil trial from late last year into early January. The trial was to decide the damages Trump would face after Engoron found that he committed fraud by inflating the value of his assets. The other defendants in the case have also faced financial penalties and been barred from doing business in New York for periods of time.
Trump, the current GOP frontrunner in the 2024 presidential election, has maintained his innocence in the case and claimed it was politically motivated.
On Wednesday, Clifford Robert filed a letter in the New York City civil court addressed to Engoron which argues Trump was "deprived" of the chance to speak out against the ruling before it was filed.
According to court records, Roberts requested the chance to propose a "counter-judgment" to Engoron's ruling, adding that it would be "contrary to fundamental fairness" if not allowed to submit a counter-judgment.
"Defendants therefore request that the Court set a return date for the Proposed Judgment that affords Defendants sufficient time to submit a proposed counter-judgment. To deprive Defendants of the opportunity to submit a proposed counter-judgment would be contrary to fundamental fairness and due process."
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:56 (two years ago)
― tobo73, Wednesday, February 21, 2024 3:32 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Authorities in Argentina this week raided a cultural center named after Kyle Rittenhouse—the American teen known for shooting three people, two fatally, during a Black Lives Matter protest.
Police confiscated an 83-millimeter mortar shell from the center’s building in La Plata, about an hour outside of Buenos Aires, La Nacion reported, adding that the police planned to destroy the shell. It’s unclear if Rittenhouse is aware of the cultural center or has any ties to it. Attempts to reach him through social media and his former attorney were unsuccessful.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:59 (two years ago)
the clips in this monologue are all completely bonkers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52xuwD_xx0s
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 21:27 (two years ago)