Bring on a hung parliament
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 16 February 2024 10:11 (two years ago)
Bring on the Rochdale by-election.
― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Friday, 16 February 2024 10:14 (two years ago)
Damien Egan said 14 years of Conservative governments had "sucked the hope out of our country"
every time I see Starmer & Reeves doing Labour messaging it feels like another 14 years of having hope sucked out of you, plus boot stamping on yr face
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 February 2024 10:16 (two years ago)
"The voters of [insert name of constituency when the sitting MP has either died or disgraced themselves and which will revert to their party come the next General Election] have sent a clear message to Downing Street..."
Repeat ad infinitum
― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Friday, 16 February 2024 10:23 (two years ago)
great, some dead-eyed unprincipled weasels wearing red rosettes have won a couple of by-elections. I'll bake a cake.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 February 2024 10:36 (two years ago)
Egan's husband is ex IDF and working as a global IDF recruiter, so safe to he's part of Labour's friends of genocide clique.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 February 2024 11:05 (two years ago)
Am I reading that right? the swing in Wellingborough is purely down to Conservatives staying home? Almost no votes going to Labour at all?
― anvil, Friday, 16 February 2024 12:06 (two years ago)
Conservatives to get most seats 7/1Conservatives overall majority 14/1
If so, "to get most seats" looks really good right now, 7/1 with only two possible outcomes
― anvil, Friday, 16 February 2024 12:10 (two years ago)
Yes, just checked, more people voted Conservative in 2019 than voted for all parties combined in 2024, big turnout drop. I'm not sure how common that is for by-elections though
― anvil, Friday, 16 February 2024 12:16 (two years ago)
It's low but not shockingly so - I had a quick look at the by-elections in the 2015-2017 parliament, the drop runs from 20% (Copeland) to 59% (Batley and Spen, the Jo Cox replacement) - 41% for Wellingborough is about middle of the pack - 49% for Kingswood would be second-worse though.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 16 February 2024 13:44 (two years ago)
profiles in courage pt 98273
Labour has called for “an immediate humanitarian ceasefire” in Gaza for the first time in an attempt to head off what threatens to be the biggest rebellion against Keir Starmer since he became party leader.Opposition whips published a 237-word amendment to a Scottish National party motion on Tuesday setting out the party’s stance on the Middle East crisis, which they hope Labour MPs will back instead of a separate amendment from the SNP calling more bluntly for an immediate ceasefire.The Labour wording goes further than the party has in the past in calling for a ceasefire. Last weekend, Starmer said he wanted the fighting to “stop now”, but he has been reluctant to back an immediate and permanent ceasefire given that Hamas has threatened to carry out further attacks like the one on 7 October.While the amendment backs a “humanitarian ceasefire”, it clarifies that it does not want Israel to stop fighting as long as Hamas continues to threaten violence.
Opposition whips published a 237-word amendment to a Scottish National party motion on Tuesday setting out the party’s stance on the Middle East crisis, which they hope Labour MPs will back instead of a separate amendment from the SNP calling more bluntly for an immediate ceasefire.
The Labour wording goes further than the party has in the past in calling for a ceasefire. Last weekend, Starmer said he wanted the fighting to “stop now”, but he has been reluctant to back an immediate and permanent ceasefire given that Hamas has threatened to carry out further attacks like the one on 7 October.
While the amendment backs a “humanitarian ceasefire”, it clarifies that it does not want Israel to stop fighting as long as Hamas continues to threaten violence.
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:19 (two years ago)
"Can I shock you...I love ceasefires." partridge.jpg
― nashwan, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:22 (two years ago)
🚨 Confirmed: Labour is whipping its MPs to *abstain* on the SNP motion if it can't amend it. https://t.co/M8477Qja30— Emilio Casalicchio (@e_casalicchio) February 20, 2024
Wouldn't be surprised if this is what ends up happening because absolutely everything about the Labour Party is a confidence trick
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:32 (two years ago)
unbelievably grim
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:36 (two years ago)
Israel are killing as many people every 4 or 5 days as died in the hamas attack, eat shit keir starmer
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 19:02 (two years ago)
what surprised me was people i assumed were reasonably smart falling for Kieth's "call for a ceasefire" bit in the first place
― wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 19:36 (two years ago)
Semantic hairs split down to the root in equivocating between a cessation of fighting and a ceasefire, these things are vastly important to the electorate of course
― kieth flett (Matt #2), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 19:38 (two years ago)
Yes, bait n switch is now baked into every single public statement, policy announcement, etc
UPDATE I understand Keir Starmer will order his MPs to vote against the SNP’s motion calling for a Gaza ceasefire for the reason I explain below (he hates the SNP’s charge that Israel is engaging in the collective punishment of Palestinians). He knows many of his MPs will rebel… https://t.co/vY1zwPCKOq— Robert Peston (@Peston) February 20, 2024
Our director of strategy Luke Akehurst
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 19:39 (two years ago)
Really told on myself there by saying "our". Something in my Reptilian brain still adheres to the Labour party
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 19:48 (two years ago)
The reptile bit
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 22:06 (two years ago)
Keir Starmer was beaten up as teenager trying to defend gay friend, book reveals https://t.co/5NguE6M5Ba— The Guardian (@guardian) February 21, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:44 (two years ago)
you know that bit in 8 mile when eminem chides that other rapper for being homophobic?
― Left, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:55 (two years ago)
anyway my first thought was "not hard enough" because I'm a monster
― Left, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:56 (two years ago)
Source: Trust me bro
― anvil, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:04 (two years ago)
I mean boys will be boys something along those lines could easily have happened but so what
a bullied kid aligning himself with the bigger bullies makes enough sense to me as a psychological explanation - not that that's the angle he's going for by (presumably) telling the guardian to highlight this bit
― Left, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:08 (two years ago)
the bit about him getting a good shoeing once could well be true!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:16 (two years ago)
In the book, Keir Starmer: The Biography, Starmer adds: “When I’m told how ‘things were better in the old days’, people forget about the ways Britain has become less cruel and less full of hate. We can all take some pride in that.”
"i'm doing my part to ensure that britain remains steadfast at its current level of cruelty and hatred by refusing to defend trans rights"
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:20 (two years ago)
it's curious that as far as I know this has never been mentioned by Starmer before, there was nothing about it in the Eagleton book either. And he's not exactly a reticent kind of politician when it comes to opportunities for spinning himself as a good guy.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:25 (two years ago)
speaking of spinning himself as a good guy, check out the tone of the author describing starmer's angry reaction to his niece being subjected to a homophobic attack
“Starmer’s anger over what happened to his niece, and – despite his best efforts with the police – the failure to prosecute those responsible, is an emotion you rarely see from him in public,” Baldwin writes. “For my part, I think the argument made casually by a lot of people these days that he stands for nothing is well wide of the mark.”
fuck that, i wanna see kieth go full death wish on the perps
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:29 (two years ago)
the argument that he stands for nothing is well wide of the mark because he didn't like it when his niece was physically assaulted
well i'm convinced lads, he's a man of strongly-held principles after all
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:30 (two years ago)
it puts a completely different light on his right-wing authoritarian cop tendencies and all the vile stuff he did while he was DPP.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:38 (two years ago)
Do you know that Keir Starmer once told McDonalds to go away *swoon*
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:40 (two years ago)
His principled refusal to learn how to copy and paste.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:41 (two years ago)
the highlight of McLibel, well the only clip of it I've watched tbh, revealed that Kieth didn't know how to use floppy discs and created a low level hostile work environment by talking to his staff like they were shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:46 (two years ago)
i'm waiting for "Starmer used to drink 20 pints a day" reveal
― wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:23 (two years ago)
probably best to avoid that line in case he reminds people of the time he decked a deliveroo rider with his car after enjoying a deliciously refreshing non-alcoholic beverage at a nearby pub
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:35 (two years ago)
that's his tough stance on the gig economy i reckon
― wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:38 (two years ago)
what on earth is the need for a big fuckoff SUV when you live in North London other than just making the pissed up arsehole driving it have an inflated sense of superiority . I hate everything about this guy.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:14 (two years ago)
So it seems like Lindsay Hoyle has rewritten the Commons rules, against advice, to save Starmer's bacon. Get rid of the biased cunt.
― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:29 (two years ago)
there needs to be more protection for MPs, it's unacceptable that they receive death threats from members of the, um, Labour Party
― wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:09 (two years ago)
Corbyn 4 Speaker
― nashwan, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:14 (two years ago)
nm he likes being an actual MP too much
― nashwan, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:20 (two years ago)
Can anyone do a tldr on what happened with hoyle today and why i should care? feels like dropping into a shit soap opera.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 22 February 2024 00:02 (two years ago)
I think basically Starmer, acting like a gangster PM elect, threatened ArseHoyle's future speakership if he didn't break with standard parliamentary procedures to protect his ass from a Labour rebellion. The kind of lawless behaviour FBPEs had no truck with when Boris Johnson did it. Probably a poor summary but I don't really gaf what goes on these days.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 22 February 2024 00:24 (two years ago)
This seems like a pretty succinct summary
To clarify, Labour masterminded a parliamentary manoeuvre to avoid a vote on an awkward SNP motion and then instead of owning that they’ve blamed protestors, thus prompting a new moral panic about politically active muslims?— Michael Walker (@michaeljswalker) February 22, 2024
― soref, Thursday, 22 February 2024 01:44 (two years ago)
Labour's message to us?We will not act as an Opposition nor will we let anyone else act as an Opposition. There will be no opposition. Fuck you all.— Priyamvada Gopal © (@PriyamvadaGopal) February 21, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 22 February 2024 09:25 (two years ago)
Also a pretty succinct summary
― wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 February 2024 09:48 (two years ago)
Just the other day I was slightly surprised to find Starmer seemingly on the right side of history on the Operation Spanner Wiki page:
There was immediate criticism of the investigation and trial in 1990, with the Gay London Policing Group describing the sentences as "outrageous" and Andrew Puddephat, general secretary of Liberty, calling for a "right to privacy enshrined in law".[52] Keir Starmer said the judiciary had "effectively imposed its morality on others" and argued the "unrepresentative make-up of the judiciary makes it ill-equipped to do this".[63] The Pink Paper branded the case a homophobic "show trial" designed to "get a clear ruling on the illegality of S&M sex, especially amongst gay men".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Spanner
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 22 February 2024 09:53 (two years ago)
Michael Martin resigned after 22 MPs expressed no confidence in him, Hoyle is up to 53 (and counting)
― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 10:12 (two years ago)
... just gone up to 54!