Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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That guy is going to end up a right wing grifter talking about how god healed his acorn wound

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 February 2024 00:21 (two years ago)

always worth remembering that pizza delivery drivers have a more dangerous job than these clowns

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 15 February 2024 00:35 (two years ago)

dude needs to lay off the Monster energy drinks

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 February 2024 00:44 (two years ago)

esp since *multiple people* who merely pulled into the wrong person's drive way have been shot by gun-touting homeowners in the last year, each the time police saying "shucks if only we could do somethin"

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 February 2024 00:48 (two years ago)

Not that we want to really amp up every cop’s Delta Force fantasy with more gun training but the yearly qualifications for cops are ridiculously low for a license to carry a gun 24/7 and kill with near impunity.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 15 February 2024 00:56 (two years ago)

dude needs to lay off the Monster energy drinks

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, February 14, 2024 7:44 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Cops drink Bang.

peace, man, Thursday, 15 February 2024 12:36 (two years ago)

https://abc7.com/tennessee-deputy-missing-found-dead-robert-leonard-first-arrest/14429043/

article focuses 99% on the dead cop and gives maybe a sentence to the detainee in the backseat that died because of him, a mother of two

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 18 February 2024 22:06 (two years ago)

Yeah really gross

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 19 February 2024 01:14 (two years ago)

Two stories in a row about new cops endangering/killing people.

I’m sure it’s fine.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 19 February 2024 04:38 (two years ago)

Fuck police

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 19 February 2024 04:44 (two years ago)

There's great pressure to hire more police, and in a shrunken labor pool we are going to be scraping the bottom of the barrel. I expect Republican states to start employing child cops.

My locality is complaining about a persistent shortage of cops (shortage versus ideal staffing levels, whoever determines those) in our otherwise low-crime community. The world has not ended.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 19 February 2024 17:59 (two years ago)

not ended due to the alleged shortage.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 19 February 2024 17:59 (two years ago)

I expect Republican states to start employing child cops.

Not quite there yet, but our county just dropped minimum age to work as a corrections officer in the county jail from 19 to 18 because they couldn't get enough applicants. So now they have 18-year-olds out there "taking care" of prisoners, I'm sure that's going great.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 19 February 2024 18:38 (two years ago)

That episode of South Park surprisingly prescient

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 19 February 2024 18:39 (two years ago)

Also they raised starting salary for the jailer positions to $50k a year, which I'm sure is attractive to an 18-year-old without other good options. If they went and spent five years getting an education degree and a teaching certificate, they'd come out making less. We're really great at prioritizing around here.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 19 February 2024 18:40 (two years ago)

four weeks pass...

Some may have heard about the killing of Tyre Nichols by police in Memphis last year. Five officers are facing 2nd degree murder charges because of it. After debating and in some cases rejecting proposed reforms, one thing the Memphis City Council did last year was pass an ordinance reclassifying minor traffic violations (expired tags, broken taillights, etc) so that they by themselves can't be used as a reason to initiate a traffic stop. (Nichols had been stopped on vague allegations of "reckless driving," which turned out to be entirely bogus when they reviewed the dash cams.)

So, now, because we live in an aspirational police state, our Legislature has passed a bill nullifying that ordinance and saying local governments can't set policy FOR THEIR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENTS that in any way restricts their powers more than existing state and federal laws. This follows a bill last year that took away any (mostly minimal) teeth that our handful of civilian review boards have. Even though local governments and citizens pay for our local law enforcement, the state is telling us that we can't regulate them.

Hard to see how this could go wrong ...

https://apnews.com/article/tennessee-tyre-nichols-police-memphis-c154e1bde2ddeae5059f42f9e10e27b3

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 18 March 2024 18:07 (two years ago)

Pretextual traffic stops are what made this country great.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 18 March 2024 18:10 (two years ago)

funny i thought we didn’t want the federal gummint telling us what to do

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 March 2024 18:12 (two years ago)

State legislators (and this is a somewhat bipartisan phenomenon, tho more pronounced in the red states) see themselves as the ultimate authority. They see no conflict in saying both that the feds shouldn't tell them what to do and that they should be able to boss around local governments all they want. "It's the United STATES of America," they say.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 18 March 2024 18:17 (two years ago)

Yeah, we had a real pissing match in Georgia during the pandemic between Brian Kemp and the then-mayor of Atlanta, Keisha Lance Bottoms. Needless to say, this was a red/blue conflict as much as it was a turf war.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 18 March 2024 18:19 (two years ago)

Yep, those tensions are always there (see NYC vs. every NY governor), but in the red states where all the big cities are blue, it's much more heightened. We've already had Mississippi state government trying to deploy its own state police in the middle of Jackson, I won't be surprised to see more and more of this shit — sort of a backdoor way to create a state police force, by limiting local control over them.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 18 March 2024 18:22 (two years ago)

Oh, our own governor also wants to deploy some of the state Highway Patrol in "high crime" areas in Memphis.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 18 March 2024 18:23 (two years ago)

hell, DeSantis as usual is one step ahead in turpitude. He's got his own team, the Florida Guard.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 March 2024 18:25 (two years ago)

And of course we have Abbott building a National Guard military base in Texas to "protect the border." These guys are very into having their own military. And this is the kind of stuff that really chips away at what I've always thought was one of our best structural protections against having a real police state, because power over law enforcement is so generally decentralized and historically there's actually been a lot of tension between fed-state-local agencies. To the degree that all of that gets "streamlined" under the command of governors and state legislators, it's obviously bad news.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 18 March 2024 18:42 (two years ago)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/interactive/2024/new-orleans-police-child-sexual-abuse-rodney-vicknair/

from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 00:43 (two years ago)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/03/14/trial-new-orleans-police-child-abuse/

from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 00:44 (two years ago)

one month passes...

Why does this seem vaguely familiar?

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/state/2024/04/26/frank-tyson-police-death-canton-ohio-i-cant-breathe/73466345007/

Lee626, Friday, 26 April 2024 18:11 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...

anybody else following this?

whether they were at the wrong house is kinda irrelevant, they were just itching to shoot him :(

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/experts-gun-justify-deadly-force-fatal-shooting-florida-110137002

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 May 2024 16:55 (two years ago)

I wouldn’t say I’m following it closely but it’s definitely made national news.

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 12 May 2024 17:31 (two years ago)

deputies hoping to prove themselves worthy of gang membership routinely seek out violent encounters with the public, the investigation reports

oh cool

budo jeru, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 21:47 (two years ago)

A detail from another report on the undersheriff gang member

"Burson testified he knew Murakami for approximately 30 years. He told the special counsel that Murakami has a tattoo of a "caveman" on his ankle."

Awwwww how adorable

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 21:48 (two years ago)

sadly, it’s of the Geico caveman

The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 22:29 (two years ago)

Distressing video shows Missouri cop gun down lost 13-pound deaf and blind dog: ‘What am I supposed to do?’ https://t.co/ehZAKmAZHO pic.twitter.com/PKidqdaZhm

— New York Post (@nypost) May 25, 2024

(i have not watched the video in the link and suggest that you don't either)

https://i.imgur.com/e4tfe1V.jpeg

mookieproof, Saturday, 25 May 2024 03:41 (two years ago)

one month passes...

How exactly is this man pleading innocence?

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/23/us/sonya-massey-police-shooting-what-went-wrong/index.html

StanM, Wednesday, 24 July 2024 14:40 (one year ago)

because

a) judging by his tattoos, he is probably a white supremacist
b) cops regularly have been cleared of wrongdoing when shooting unarmed Black civilians
c) he is a sociopath, judging by the fact that he laughs after killing her ("she's done...that's a headshot", *chuckle*)
d) he is going to suggest with his lawyer that a pot of boiling water that the victim was holding across the room was a threat to him despite her never moving like she was going to throw it, and her apologizing and ducking with her hands raised

rick beato meato manifesto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 July 2024 14:43 (one year ago)

one month passes...
three weeks pass...

. . . they ain't too smart

NYPD Farebeating Crackdown Results in Sending a Hail of Bullets Into a Suspected Fare Evader, Subway Riders, and a Fellow Officer

How did a routine police stop for fare evasion on the L train escalate to the point where two NYPD officers shot four people—including the alleged farebeater, two bystanders, and a fellow cop?

At a press conference after the shooting, which happened at the Sutter Avenue L train stop in Brownsville around 3 p.m. on Sunday, Mayor Eric Adams praised the work of the two cops. If you had only seen the mayor's tweet on the incident, you might have believed that a cop had been shot by a suspect. In fact, the cop either shot himself or was shot by his partner—they were the only people to fire their guns in this case.

"First of all, thank God our officers are okay and clearly they averted an even greater tragedy with a person with over 20 arrests, a real career criminal," Adams said.

According to the police department's version of events, two cops from the 73rd Precinct assigned to "quality-of-life" duty on the transit system saw a man, 37-year-old Derell Mickles, enter through the emergency gate without paying. They followed Mickles up the three flights of stairs to the elevated tracks and asked him to stop.

"At a certain point on the platform, the male mutters the words, you know, 'I'm going to kill you if you don't stop following,'" NYPD Chief of Department Jeffrey Maddrey told reporters. "The officers are asking him to take his hands out of his pockets. They become aware that he has a knife in his pocket. They give numerous commands. The male basically challenges the officers, 'No, you're going to have to shoot me.'"

When a northbound L train pulled into the station, Maddrey said that Mickles got on the train, and the officers followed him, commanding him to get off the train and come with them. Both cops shot their Tasers at Mickles, and both were "ineffective."

"The male jumps back off of the train onto the platform, and at one point he's advancing on one of the officers with his knife," Maddrey said. "The officer stands back. He draws his weapon, and then both officers at this point fire. They fire multiple rounds, and the male goes down. They're able to handcuff him and subdue him."

Maddrey said that while the officers were handcuffing Mickles, one realized that he had been shot. Graphic video taken by a bystander and posted on Reddit appears to show this moment, though in the video, it happens on the train, not the platform.

"Dude I'm shot, help!" an NYPD officer says in the video while leaning over Mickles, who is groaning, bloody, and handcuffed. Both cops stand up and examine the officer's wounds. "God dammit!" one says.

"Yeah, cause they shootin' recklessly!" a voice behind the camera shouts. "He shot his own fucking partner!"

Two bystanders, a woman and a 49-year-old man, were also shot. Another graphic video appears to show the male bystander on the floor of a different train car. The woman was "grazed" and is in stable condition, while the man was hit in the head. Mickles was shot "numerous times in the body and in the abdomen area," Maddrey said. Both Mickles and the male bystander are in critical condition as of Monday morning, according to Gothamist. The wounded officer, who was shot below his armpit, is expected to make a full recovery.

At the press conference, the NYPD's deputy commissioner for public information deflected a question about why police Tasers seemingly keep malfunctioning in high-profile shootings—just this past Friday, the NYPD fatally shot 38-year-old Vilmond Jean Baptiste in his bathtub, after he allegedly attacked police with a knife and after a cop's Taser failed to work.

How many rounds did the NYPD officers fire? Why did the cops seemingly fire into a crowded subway car? The NYPD did not answer a list of our questions, and instead pointed us to video of the press conference, and a still photograph that purports to show the knife that Mickles was allegedly carrying.

Mickles's mother, Gloria Holloway, told Gothamist that her son works as a chef and carries a pocket knife for work. Holloway was informed of her son's shooting by a reporter who came to her home to ask her about it. Holloway said that the NYPD merely slipped a business card underneath her door.

"They just shot him, then didn’t bother to get in touch with anybody related to him?" Holloway said. "And left a card here at the damn door?"

Both the mayor and the MTA's CEO, Janno Lieber, said that given the number of cameras trained on the incident, what happened on the train platform will become clear to New Yorkers.

"We have cameras on the platform, cameras in the mezzanine, so there will be no question of what took place," Lieber said.

The MTA referred our request for the footage to the NYPD. In a statement to Hell Gate, agency spokesperson Tim Minton cited a completely different incident in a different borough, on a different day, in which police apparently took a loaded gun off of someone trying to evade the fare on a bus on Monday in Queens. "The NYPD is responsible for transit fare evasion enforcement, which has frequently resulted in arrests of felons with active warrants and, as recently as earlier today, recovery of weapons that otherwise could have risked riders' safety," Minton said, not mentioning the fact that it was cops shooting guns in the subway system that actually, not hypothetically, "risked riders' safety."

Minton added, "We are grateful that when officers stopped a fare evader Monday morning on a Q113 bus, they not only removed a wanted criminal, but also seized his loaded gun, removing a threat to other riders."

The NYPD did not respond to our request for camera footage. It's also unclear if the police department even has the knife that Mickles was allegedly carrying.

In 2023, the NYPD spent an extra $151 million on overtime so that officers could patrol the subways and address "quality-of-life" crimes like farebeating, resulting in 1,900 more arrests for fare evasion and 32,000 more summonses—which works out to around $4,200 per arrest or summons, to catch people whose total unpaid fares only amounted to roughly $104,000.

Brooklyn Councilmember Sandy Nurse, whose district includes the Sutter Avenue station, said she was "outraged and saddened" by the shooting.

"A person’s life is worth more than a $2.90 fare," Nurse wrote in a statement. "We urgently need a full independent investigation and the immediate public release of the involved officers' body cam footage to assess how this incident unfolded. No one's life should be endangered over fare evasion, and our city and state must confront the pressing need for free, accessible public transit for all New Yorkers, ensuring that it is not just a privilege for those who can afford it."

mookieproof, Monday, 16 September 2024 23:13 (one year ago)

read some figure that the amount they are spending dwarfs the amount they are recovering by more than 100 times. so there’s the obvious horror that a person may die over $2.90, but there’s also the horror that the public is paying out the ass for state violence that isn’t even effective!

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 00:06 (one year ago)

“The male”

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 00:26 (one year ago)

They can’t call him a man

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 00:27 (one year ago)

The cops said today the knife disappeared and must have been stolen from them.

O 'Tis Redding (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 17 September 2024 00:30 (one year ago)

yeah

In 2023, the NYPD spent an extra $151 million on overtime so that officers could patrol the subways and address "quality-of-life" crimes like farebeating, resulting in 1,900 more arrests for fare evasion and 32,000 more summonses—which works out to around $4,200 per arrest or summons, to catch people whose total unpaid fares only amounted to roughly $104,000.

also the 'male bystander' and/or his family are going to sue the city for much more than $104,000. which, of course, will not come out of the cops' budget

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 September 2024 00:35 (one year ago)

two months pass...

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2024/11/18/florida-deputy-stands-trial-after-using-taser-at-gas-station-setting-man-on-fire/

her pal Santa falls to the floor (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 November 2024 21:22 (one year ago)

Jesus Christ

DJP, Wednesday, 20 November 2024 21:29 (one year ago)

When a dedicated police officer has concluded that a reckless driver with brown skin must be tased into submission, nothing else can penetrate his narrow focus on enforcing the law. Not even the fact that his taser is soaked with gasoline.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 November 2024 21:36 (one year ago)

First comment in article - "why was the victim covered in gas"

And we're done here.

her pal Santa falls to the floor (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 November 2024 21:39 (one year ago)

A Missouri Family Called 911 for a Domestic Dispute. Police Arrived and shot a 2-month old baby in the head, then shot and killed her mother.https://t.co/mD9AHWbiXF

— The Kansas City Defender (@KCDefender) November 19, 2024

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 22 November 2024 06:26 (one year ago)

calling the cops was a great idea, grandma

StanM, Friday, 22 November 2024 06:32 (one year ago)


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