U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Ginsburg Edition

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Scalito may be the best celebrity portmanteau since Bennifer. Discuss amongst yourselves.

Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 8 February 2024 16:33 (two years ago)

Tholito

Rich E. (Eric H.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 16:34 (two years ago)

-lito works almost every time, we can all agree

Rich E. (Eric H.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 16:35 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIu0jQ5TaRQ

Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 8 February 2024 16:42 (two years ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/rickhasen.bsky.social/post/3kkw6lfr5nv2g

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 16:51 (two years ago)

that seems to be the consensus. only question is whether it's unanimous or not.

jaymc, Thursday, 8 February 2024 17:39 (two years ago)

Ugh. Stern at Slate is predicting 9-0 or 8-1 decision overturning Colorado re removing Trump from ballot

curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 February 2024 17:46 (two years ago)

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/02/supreme-court-trump-immunity-john-roberts.html

Will US Supreme Court delay on Trump immunity case when it comes to them

curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 February 2024 17:53 (two years ago)

The result won't surprise me, the margin will.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:14 (two years ago)

They were asking zero questions about whether Trump was actually in insurrectionist, just about whether CO had the authority to kick him off the ballot, so it’s going to be a narrow ruling I expect.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:20 (two years ago)

this Court did NOT want to touch Jan. 6.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:22 (two years ago)

probably because at least two and the wife of one of these two think no insurrection happened

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:22 (two years ago)

ok lol

“I would expect that a goodly number of states will say whoever the Democratic candidate is, you’re off the ballot, and others, for the Republican candidate, you’re off the ballot. It will come down to just a handful of states that are going to decide the presidential election. That’s a pretty daunting consequence,” Roberts added.

nashwan, Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:27 (two years ago)

We are indeed watching the last remnants of the Old Republic being swept away

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:30 (two years ago)

probably because at least two and the wife of one of these two think no insurrection happened

Correction: They think an insurrection is happening and it's up to them to stop it

Rich E. (Eric H.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:34 (two years ago)

It will come down to just a handful of states that are going to decide the presidential election

Wow, what a dystopian hellscape that would be

If it were to come to pass

Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:35 (two years ago)

When they were bringing up the idea that if the insurrection clause were self-executing then every act Trump in office after Jan. 6 would be invalid I wonder if the people he pardoned started sweating.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:48 (two years ago)

probably because at least two and the wife of one of these two think no insurrection happened


It was antifa it was a false flag also it was totally cool and nothing bad happened at all just some tourists having fun and patriots exercising their first amendment rights with zip ties and tasers.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:52 (two years ago)

this Court did NOT want to touch Jan. 6

I can fondly recall how, during their confirmations, they were uniformly described as among the keenest legal minds of the nation, just the sort of deeply versed and brilliant jurists we could trust to disentangle for us the thorniest conundrums of constitutional interpretation. I mean, jeez, they look so impressive in their black robes, you'd think they could at least issue a definitive judgment that fully resolves the juridical requirements for applying section 3 or the 14th amendment.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 8 February 2024 19:34 (two years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/XDKDX0o.gif

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 19:37 (two years ago)

The lawyer defending Colorado responded to Roberts's argument by saying the Court could render that moot by actually defining what an insurrection is. But I don't think they have any interest in doing that.

jaymc, Thursday, 8 February 2024 20:43 (two years ago)

So many of the questions were like "That would make a lot of work for us, don't you think?"

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 February 2024 20:58 (two years ago)

When they were asking "Well, what if some states decided to throw Biden off the ballot?" and the lawyer responded, "You guys could strike that down, since it's obvious nonsense," the Supremes had no comeback.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 February 2024 21:00 (two years ago)

So many of the questions were like "That would make a lot of work for us, don't you think?"

That was literally the only hopeful sign in that recent case (yet to be decided) revisiting the Chevron doctrine. The conservative justices were all ready to overturn it in theory, the only real concern was the deluge of litigation that would follow.

Anyway, that was a really fucking depressing hearing, but not a surprise - Lawrence Lessig pretty much raised many of the same concerns last year.

birdistheword, Thursday, 8 February 2024 21:04 (two years ago)

xp They were too busy being hypnotized by the lawyer's comical, stage winking in their direction

Rich E. (Eric H.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 21:04 (two years ago)

I thought Murray made a poor case.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 21:12 (two years ago)

Justice Alito takes aim at Obergefell again, warning that the decision means "Americans who do not hide their adherence to traditional religious beliefs about homosexual conduct" are being "labeled as bigots and treated as such" by the state and "society." https://t.co/R7bbBPwrPy pic.twitter.com/HgS6X6opKY

— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) February 20, 2024

Rich E. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 04:38 (two years ago)

Fuck that guy. If you're a bigot, own it, don't ask everyone else to make you feel better about your shameful bullshit.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 04:40 (two years ago)

The right to not be called a racist or bigot is very very important to these guys. They can think of nothing worse, and it is so unfair that it happens to them so often.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 04:43 (two years ago)

I hope Alito winds up in a persistent vegetative state until he's 163 and nobody pulls the plug

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 12:00 (two years ago)

Well they passed a law in '64, so you can't call me a bigot no more,
but it only goes so far...

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:09 (two years ago)

I love how conservatives essentially hinge their hostility to racial justice on the idea that we "solved" all of this 60 years ago. By which they literally really only mean, MLK had that one dream. They never even talk about the Civil Rights Act or Voting Rights Act, because of course they've been trying with some success to roll them back ever since.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:22 (two years ago)

I mean come on, slavery ended 160 years ago, all that you had to deal with after that was peonage, Black Codes, Jim Crow, what's the big deal

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:25 (two years ago)

They also don't talk about how "MLK had that one dream and then WE MURDERED HIM FOR IT."

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:28 (two years ago)

Which proves that progress is dangerous

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:30 (two years ago)

we solved racism and it's racist to say otherwise

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:36 (two years ago)

I don't know. Maybe we have gone too far. My uncle got sent to the bigot camps just for telling a joke about people with dandruff.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:47 (two years ago)

those snowflakes

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:58 (two years ago)

Interesting how he defines hatred of homosexuality as a traditional religious value but not say opposition to the death penalty as one

curmudgeon, Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:40 (two years ago)

Old Testament vs. New Testament

Rich E. (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:46 (two years ago)

The death penalty is as Old Testament as it gets.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:57 (two years ago)

Jesus, take the cross.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:03 (two years ago)

Jesus was a squish

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:10 (two years ago)

He only wants to protect religious values that coincide with his ones and with his political views of course

curmudgeon, Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:19 (two years ago)

How is the government treating these people like bigots? The SC has ruled that they are allowed to do basically anything they think their religion tells them to do.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:22 (two years ago)

I assume this is about public schools talking about tolerance

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:22 (two years ago)

How is the government treating these people like bigots? The SC has ruled that they are allowed to do basically anything they think their religion tells them to do.


Religious right-wingers don’t want to be left alone. They want the rest of us to behave according to their dictates. Anything less than that is oppression to them.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:41 (two years ago)

Meanwhile:

Months after authorizing subpoenas for Leonard Leo & Harlan Crow — two key figures in the Supreme Court’s ethics crisis — Senate Democrats have yet to issue them.

“Still working on it," Sen. Dick Durbin told ProPublica when asked about the subpoenas

https://www.propublica.org/article/why-hasnt-senate-judiciary-subpoenaed-harlan-crow-leonard-leo-scotus

curmudgeon, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:15 (two years ago)

Will we hear from the US Supreme Court this coming week re Trump's appeal of the DC Court of Appeals decision rejecting his immunity claim?

After Trump asked the Supreme Court to stay proceedings in the trial court, Special Counsel Jack Smith focused on the timing issue by filing a response long before a deadline set by the chief justice: “Delay in the resolution of these charges threatens to frustrate the public interest in a speedy and fair verdict—a compelling interest in every criminal case and one that has unique national importance here, as it involves federal criminal charges against a former president for alleged criminal efforts to overturn the results of the presidential election, including through the use of official power.”

As of today, the justices have not issued an order that summarily denies Trump’s motion or grants it, either setting the case down for review on either a regular or expedited basis. The Court’s action will determine when and even if Trump will face trial.

...The best-case outcome for Smith is, of course, recognition that the well-reasoned circuit court opinion does not merit review. But if the justices decide to have the case briefed and argued, there is ample precedent for the Court deciding the issue in time to permit a trial before the summer campaign season. That is, if the justices want to...

https://prospect.org/justice/2024-02-23-beating-the-clock-supreme-court-trump/

curmudgeon, Sunday, 25 February 2024 20:18 (two years ago)

ate: "On Monday, the Supreme Court will hear arguments in a pair of cases ....that could force major social media platforms to carry posts from Trump or others who lie about elections being stolen or obliquely encourage election-related violence."

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 February 2024 15:05 (two years ago)


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