they're not actors, they're OPERATIVES
― Obama Death Panel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)
marvel at their operations
can't spell operative without opera and this film is pop opera at its finest. steven spielberg would be proud.
― omar little, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:43 (sixteen years ago)
white is clearly stating sommers uses actors like bresson
― velko, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)
I like when Armond White writes in second person.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)
crossposting from the gi joe thead cause dammit this took like 5 minutes:
complete list of other films armond cites in this review:
iron manstar trekharry potter 6 ("and the half-blooded chintz"--good one dude!)the mummytransformers 2wanted3:10 to yumadrag me to helltransporter 3torque (those last two are "superior pop art")the laura (sic) croft filmsthunderbirdsthe hurt locker ("now overrated")united 93cloverfieldmars attacksin praise of love
― wishes to be referred under the pseudonym of kronos (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)
One of these things is not like the other. . .
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)
Can someone do a complete list of the critics that Armond is citing? Guessing that would be longer.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)
"This Eiffel Tower image also recalls the postmodern epigraph that closes Godard’s In Praise of Love : 'I will go to my grave with more visions than man has previously ever known." Uh huh.
― if i have a child i will name it satan (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:02 (sixteen years ago)
will gladden
― sir-mounter (Eric H.), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:13 (sixteen years ago)
at this point is he doing this just to see if anyone's still reading?
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:15 (sixteen years ago)
Meh, he's the only critic I remember what he thinks of any given movie more than a few weeks after it opens. Granted, it's because he's predictable, but still ...
― sir-mounter (Eric H.), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:49 (sixteen years ago)
but i mean, throwing that godard quote in there, it's just trolling really. who does he think his audience is, besides people who tune in to watch him be crazy?
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:51 (sixteen years ago)
he's the glenn beck of film critics
― Obama Death Panel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:53 (sixteen years ago)
yeah, Mars Attacks is the great one.
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 01:04 (sixteen years ago)
Isn't Will Gladden the third string QB for the Seahawks?
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 01:24 (sixteen years ago)
the very realistic appreciation of militarism as a foundation for capitalist freedom that supplies delight
fuck this sentence, fuck this guy
― heavin' flho (s1ocki), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 01:52 (sixteen years ago)
"yeah, Mars Attacks is the great one."
I thought you liked the Hurt Locker.
― it's like i have a couple worked up orc dicks under my arms (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 03:01 (sixteen years ago)
slocki what part are u objecting 2
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 03:06 (sixteen years ago)
i do, but it's no Mars Attacks! xp
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 03:08 (sixteen years ago)
I bet you just like it less now that it's been overrated.
― it's like i have a couple worked up orc dicks under my arms (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 03:25 (sixteen years ago)
kinda like the president amirite
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 03:33 (sixteen years ago)
heyo
― BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 03:38 (sixteen years ago)
That sentence isn't really all that risible, because I can imagine GI Joe's audience being cool with both guns and money.
― sir-mounter (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 04:02 (sixteen years ago)
Armond's nuts, cuz i understand there is no one named Joe in that film.
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 04:11 (sixteen years ago)
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i guess the idea that that shit is "innocuous" and awesome... i didnt not take that sentence as a critical read... then again it is really fuckin humid in here
― heavin' flho (s1ocki), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 05:13 (sixteen years ago)
GI Joe IS innocuous and awesome
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 05:19 (sixteen years ago)
YOOOO JOE!
― if i have a child i will name it satan (latebloomer), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 05:34 (sixteen years ago)
that sentence doesnt really "do" anything critical, it just sort of sits there hoping for you to disagree
― max, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 11:34 (sixteen years ago)
yeah exactly
― heavin' flho (s1ocki), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 12:54 (sixteen years ago)
when i first encountered armond i dont think i had ever read a critic whose POV was completely unpredictable to me. i didnt have any idea what he'd say about a movie. he would often come at it in such a way that i was sorta floored--almost having fun with the idea of interpretation itself--that many, many times he forced me to reconsider films i thought i knew/understood from the ground up.
of course, this only worked a few times and once you're on to the trick it kinda loses its power.
― ryan, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 13:21 (sixteen years ago)
he used to be different, really.
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 13:33 (sixteen years ago)
As I read it I kept running into parts i wanted to quote and respond to but I really don't want to waste the time. This wasn't written by a real person it was written by someone living in Michael Bay world.
― Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 21:12 (sixteen years ago)
I probably wouldn't dislike Armond White much at all if he didn't have his bizarre vendettas against successful movies. Like the dude loves to celebrate trash/genre pictures/crowd pleasers, but he can't stomach the occasional schmaltz of a Pixar movie?
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 13 August 2009 04:46 (sixteen years ago)
His vendetta is against critically acclaimed movies though. Whether or not you or me liked or saw a movie means nothing. Did Johnny Critic love it? Oh you bet Armond's gonna contrive a reason to fuckin' hate it.
― it's like i have a couple worked up orc dicks under my arms (Alex in SF), Thursday, 13 August 2009 05:06 (sixteen years ago)
yeah the next (first?) Pixar movie that critics despise will be Armond's favorite animated film ever.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 13 August 2009 05:14 (sixteen years ago)
Oh sure. Heck if revisionist critics retroactively decided they hated Up, he'd turn it its biggest booster overnight.
― it's like i have a couple worked up orc dicks under my arms (Alex in SF), Thursday, 13 August 2009 05:25 (sixteen years ago)
Armond is at his best these days championing commercially invisible filmmakers like Julian Hernandez, who (rounding off) none of you have ever seen or will see.
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 August 2009 13:20 (sixteen years ago)
a reason to be excited for Cars 2.
― da croupier, Thursday, 13 August 2009 13:25 (sixteen years ago)
really guys, i'm glad your hatred for ppl who depart from the consensus isn't limited to politics.
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 August 2009 13:33 (sixteen years ago)
He's not departing from any consensus – he's making poorly reasoned arguments.
― Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 August 2009 13:36 (sixteen years ago)
""really guys, i'm glad your hatred for ppl who depart from the consensus isn't limited to politics."
Not so glad that your pension for acting like a smug douchebag isn't limited to your opinions about politics.
― it's like i have a couple worked up orc dicks under my arms (Alex in SF), Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:04 (sixteen years ago)
penchant
― da croupier, Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:05 (sixteen years ago)
unless you meant that morbius was really fucking old (which works)
― da croupier, Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:06 (sixteen years ago)
Hah the former.
― it's like i have a couple worked up orc dicks under my arms (Alex in SF), Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:06 (sixteen years ago)
guys i'm sensitive and i don't want to see armond come between anyone :(
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:15 (sixteen years ago)
a pension for acting like a smug douchebag is part of the health plan. socialized crankiness.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:17 (sixteen years ago)
Others are waiting on the two-faced asshole stipend.
Alfred, what does reasoning have to do with critical opinions? It is based on, as a guy in high school once said of English lit papers, "the art of persuasive bullshitting." AW is just increasingly unpersuasive.
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:45 (sixteen years ago)
what does reasoning have to do with critical opinions?
solid gold for all time
― goole, Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:49 (sixteen years ago)
You just answered your own question with your last sentence. If I can't parse someone's reasoning, then they're unpersuasive.
― Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:49 (sixteen years ago)