Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

I dunno, Judge Kaplan, putting oneself in a position where Donald Trump might (and most likely will) defame you is starting to seem like a pretty sweet deal.

Can a judge sue for defamation?

He rails against deep state RINOs, which is exactly what I am - I plan to sue as well

in fairness (?????????) to the rudy verdict there were two plaintiffs

difference being that Trump is far more likely to actually have that kind of money

Or more likely he hung himself on his own rope there. Someone asked Ken White/Popehat about the possibility of an appeal and reduction on the punitive damages and his understated snark response:

Low. That’s a reasonable multiplier of actual to punitive and consistent with his stated wealth.

The kicker is 'stated wealth' because Carroll's legal team played a clip of a formal deposition where he claimed he was worth $10 billion. So if he suddenly pleads poverty as a reduce to reduce, people get to go 'wow so about this perjury you committed' and then things get even more fun for him. (Trump's team very much saw this possibility coming and tried to work against it today, to no avail.)

REASON to reduce, etc.

All I know is he should double the pay of this legal team and bring them in for every single trial. If not to actually defend him then at least to entertain us all. But they should probably defend him, too.

he's probably not going to pay his lawyer bills since they lost

I hope they got yuge retainers up front.

Actually, I don't. Any lawyer who represents Trump gets whatever s/he deserves, which is nothing good.

Sometimes covid.

So has he posted to Truth Social yet?

yes

or perhaps not. there's a mailer going around

https://bsky.app/profile/matthewkeys.net/post/3kjw4b4g6yw2o

Not one direct mention of Carroll or his usual denials. I suspect he/whoever runs the account has clocked -- for now, let's see how long that lasts -- that if he goes down that road again she and her team can easily go 'hey, another defamation trial? don't mind if we do' and then he has to deal with two verdicts already assessed.

Even good ol' Andy McCarthy on Fox knows this much per WaPo:

Today’s ruling may not be the end of the story, according to Andy McCarthy, a former assistant U.S. attorney in the Southern District.

“In theory, if (Donald Trump) continues to repeat what he said, she can continue to sue him, and seek more millions (in) damages,” McCarthy said on Fox News.

Couple of separate posts on Bsky to further illustrate the current fun for him:

Surety bonds on appeal in the 2nd Circuit are at the district court's discretion. I'm guessing Judge Kaplan will require a bond for 100% of the verdict. Justice Engoron is likely to issue a ~$400 million fine next week; in state court appeal bonds MUST be for 100% plus statutory 9% interest.

Appeal bonds are generally 100% collateralized; it's conceivable some bank could offer Trump an irrevocable letter of credit, but a half- billion dollars is a lot.

Gonna be a long weekend for somebody.

I vote "dud"

sorry...

Someone else said on Bluesky

He can appeal without putting up the $83M

BUT

If he does not put up the $, Carroll can begin executing the $83m judgment 30 days from now in all fifty states, seizing his cash & personal property and placing liens on his real estate.

Even more fun!

A dark weekend of the soul, you might say

Good time to take up alcohol

Unperson's last quote there is from Mitchell Epner, solid guy in my experience and great legal commentator (and a lawyer himself etc), and he also posted this:

Right now, FPOTUS is likely in a rage towards his former attorney Joe Tacopina, who made the wise decision to keep Trump off the stand in the 1st Carroll v. Trump trial. Trump appears to have convinced himself that he would have won that case, if he testified and collateral estoppel is unfair.

Get ready for the rants!

Something tells me the rubes are about the get soaked again

Truly he is a fisher of men.

delightful Epner quotes there, thank u both

“Absolutely ridiculous! I fully disagree with both verdicts, and will be appealing this whole Biden Directed Witch Hunt focused on me and the Republican Party,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “Our Legal System is out of control, and being used as a Political Weapon.”

“They have taken away all First Amendment Rights,” he added. “THIS IS NOT AMERICA!”

THANKS BIDEN

'our legal system is out of control' says the most litigious property developer in history

He'll raise money off this but will he raise $83M?

($83M more than he would have raised otherwise, I mean)

they were floating an idea in Florida to use taxpayer dollars to cover his legal fees - but DeSantis nixed it
Just insane that would be even be discussed

Dud all you want, but this outcome is pretty classic Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsMUxdZGgWI

Just hoping & praying that his seething, unrelenting anger is helping to shorten his lifespan

^ 100000%

Dud for not stomping out and muttering this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxFQYw_MmAA

He's going to die on the toilet while we sleep tonight

(Mods plz delete if I'm wrong)

on the toilet the golden toilet the donald dies toniiiight

I think Trump would rather have his dick cut off than give up Trump Tower.

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:6c45z5sf3rhgrupy26iqndmc/bafkreiezsxnf27xpxvqdqbb2d6g56tjdgp4uldcvgdaclnmtj7u3fsybky@jpeg

trump sucks. i hate trump.

otm

(Mods plz delete if I'm wrong)

post is still there, guess he died

what a way to find out

yayyyyyy!

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/01/24/gettyimages-1944807446-33f657b924375b3f8de8f3ddc342961b9b5ca4a7-s800-c85.jpg

I never paid much attention to the "Trump has tiny hands" thing before, always thought it was just a way to needle him, until I saw this pic from Monday. Seriously tiny hands!

not looking like a young 77 there.