This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2023

2023 ... BAFTA giving it zilch is pretty on-brand tbh

Maestro really does feel like a film made specifically to exist within its year of release, and leading up to awards season. After that, quickly forgotten.

There's absolutely no excuse for that film being in best director

Maestro > Saltburn

both maestro and saltburn fail storywise in the same way: they are unconvincing.

xp they're both easily among the five worst things I saw last year, no need to split hairs

Wonka was an overegged pudding. Feels like it was written by committee.

multiple friends said i should watch saltburn because they thought i would like it, based on brief glances at the poster and trailer i found this vaguely insulting. the other day i walked by while my gf was watching it, caught the part with barry keoghan sucking cum from the drain and now i really don't know what to think

One other thing ... BAFTA couldn't have more effectively kneecapped Oppenheimer's two biggest threats if they'd done so consciously. Killers is in picture, but with no nods for DiCaprio/Gladstone/Scorsese/screenplay, and Barbie ... well, I've been wondering if maybe that movie making any big awards plays was a bit of a pipe dream in the first place.

Tossing these here because yeah: https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/2024-oscar-nomination-predictions/

Should've seen it coming, but Killers is quickly becoming The Irishman 2.0: https://www.avclub.com/oppenheimer-is-squeezing-killers-of-the-flower-moon-out-1851177144

Oh, and David E's annual top 25 video montage (the best thing he does every year in the way of criticism) is up: https://vimeo.com/900680873

Finally, some (comparatively) good fucking food. International Cinephile Society "nominations"

PICTURE
• All of Us Strangers
• Anatomy of a Fall
• The Boy and the Heron
• Close Your Eyes
• The Delinquents
• Do Not Expect Too Much from the End of the World
• Fallen Leaves
• Foremost by Night
• Here
• The Human Surge 3
• Inside the Yellow Cocoon Shell
• Killers of the Flower Moon
• La Chimera
• May December
• Our Body
• Poor Things
• Samsara
• Society of the Snow
• Tótem
• The Zone of Interest

DIRECTOR
• Lila Avilés – Tótem
• Víctor Erice – Close Your Eyes
• Jonathan Glazer – The Zone of Interest
• Andrew Haigh – All of Us Strangers
• Radu Jude – Do Not Expect Too Much from the End of the World
• Justine Triet – Anatomy of a Fall

ACTOR
• Paul Giamatti – The Holdovers
• Karim Leklou – Sons of Ramses
• Josh O’Connor – La Chimera
• Andrew Scott – All of Us Strangers
• Manolo Solo – Close Your Eyes
• Koji Yakusho – Perfect Days

ACTRESS
• Lily Gladstone – Killers of the Flower Moon
• Sandra Hüller – Anatomy of a Fall
• Ilinca Manolache – Do Not Expect Too Much from the End of the World
• Alma Pöysti – Fallen Leaves
• Emma Stone – Poor Things
• Teyana Taylor – A Thousand and One

SUPPORTING ACTOR
• Jamie Bell – All of Us Strangers
• José Coronado – Close Your Eyes
• Mateo Garcia – Tótem
• Milo Machado Graner – Anatomy of a Fall
• Charles Melton – May December
• Ben Whishaw – Passages

SUPPORTING ACTRESS
• Claire Foy – All of Us Strangers
• Julianne Moore – May December
• Da’Vine Joy Randolph – The Holdovers
• Catalina Saavedra – Rotting in the Sun
• Ana Torrent – Close Your Eyes
• Ana Torrent – Foremost by Night

ENSEMBLE
• All of Us Strangers
• Anatomy of a Fall
• Asteroid City
• Close Your Eyes
• Society of the Snow
• Tótem

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
• Afire – Christian Petzold
• Anatomy of a Fall – Justine Triet, Arthur Harari
• Close Your Eyes – Víctor Erice, Michel Gaztambide
• Do Not Expect Too Much from the End of the World – Radu Jude
• May December – Samy Burch, Alex Mechanik
• Monster – Yuji Sakamoto
• Tótem – Lila Avilés

ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
• All of Us Strangers – Andrew Haigh
• The Beast in the Jungle – Patric Chiha, Jihane Chouaib, Axelle Ropert
• Killers of the Flower Moon – Eric Roth, Martin Scorsese
• Poor Things – Tony McNamara
• Society of the Snow – J.A. Bayona, Jaime Marques, Bernat Vilaplana, Nicolás Casariego
• The Zone of Interest – Jonathan Glazer

CINEMATOGRAPHY
• All of Us Strangers – Jamie Ramsay
• Close Your Eyes – Valentín Álvarez
• Inside the Yellow Cocoon Shell – Dinh Duy Hung
• La Chimera – Hélène Louvart
• Samsara – Mauro Herce, Jessica Sarah Rinland
• The Zone of Interest – Lukasz Zal

EDITING
• All of Us Strangers – Jonathan Alberts
• Anatomy of a Fall – Laurent Sénéchal
• Close Your Eyes – Ascen Marchena
• Do Not Expect Too Much from the End of the World – Catalin Cristutiu
• Oppenheimer – Jennifer Lame
• Society of the Snow – Andrés Gil, Jaume Martí

PRODUCTION DESIGN
• Asteroid City – Adam Stockhausen, Kris Moran
• Barbie – Sarah Greenwood, Katie Spencer
• Close Your Eyes – Curru Garabal
• Foremost by Night – Katixa Silva, Izaskun Urkijo
• Killers of the Flower Moon – Jack Fisk, Adam Willis
• Poor Things – Shona Heath, James Price, Zsuzsa Mihalek

SCORE
• The Boy and the Heron – Joe Hisaishi
• Disco Boy – Vitalic
• Killers of the Flower Moon – Robbie Robertson
• Monster – Ryuichi Sakamoto
• A Thousand and One – Gary Gunn
• The Zone of Interest – Mica Levi

SOUND DESIGN
• All of Us Strangers – Joakim Sundström
• The Boy and the Heron – Koji Kasamatsu
• Maestro – Richard King, Steve Morrow, Tom Ozanich, Jason Ruder, Dean Zupancic
• Oppenheimer – Richard King, Kevin O’Connell, Gary A. Rizzo, Willie Burton
• Samsara – Xabier Erkizia, Luca Rulio
• The Zone of Interest – Johnnie Burn, Tarn Willers

ANIMATED FILM
• The Boy and the Heron – Hayao Miyazaki
• Chicken for Linda! – Sébastien Laudenbach, Chiara Malta
• Mars Express – Jérémie Périn
• Robot Dreams – Pablo Berger
• Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse – Joaquim Dos Santos, Kemp Powers, Justin K. Thompson
• Suzume – Makoto Shinkai

DOCUMENTARY
• Bye Bye Tiberias – Lina Soualem
• The Mother of All Lies – Asmae El Moudir
• Orlando, My Political Biography – Paul B. Preciado
• Our Body – Claire Simon
• Pictures of Ghosts – Kleber Mendonça Filho
• Youth (Spring) – Wang Bing

DEBUT FILM
• 20,000 Species of Bees – Estibaliz Urresola Solaguren
• Chien de la casse – Jean-Baptiste Durand
• Foremost by Night – Víctor Iriarte
• Inside the Yellow Cocoon Shell – Pham Thien An
• Past Lives – Celine Song
• Patagonia – Simone Bozzelli

BREAKTHROUGH PERFORMANCE
• Milo Machado Graner – Anatomy of a Fall
• Ilinca Manolache – Do Not Expect Too Much from the End of the World
• Charles Melton – May December
• Sofía Otero – 20,000 Species of Bees
• Raphaël Quenard – Chien de la casse
• Naíma Sentíes – Tótem
• Dominic Sessa – The Holdovers

And, in "who honestly even fucking cares anymore," this year's Razzie nominations:

Worst Picture
The Exorcist: Believer
Expend4bles
Meg 2: The Trench
Shazam! Fury of the Gods
Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey

Worst Actor
Russell Crowe – The Pope’s Exorcist
Vin Diesel – Fast X
Chris Evans – Ghosted
Jason Statham – Meg 2: The Trench
Jon Voight – Mercy

Worst Actress
Ana de Armas – Ghosted
Megan Fox – Johnny & Clyde
Salma Hayek – Magic Mike’s Last Dance
Jennifer Lopez – The Mother
Dame Helen Mirren - Shazam! Fury of the Gods

Worst Supporting Actress
Kim Cattrall – About My Father
Megan Fox – Expend4bles
Bai Ling – Johnny & Clyde
Lucy Liu – Shazam! Fury of the Gods
Mary Stuart Masterson – Five Nights at Freddy’s

Worst Supporting Actor
Michael Douglas – Ant Man & The Wasp: Quantumania
Mel Gibson – Confidential Informant
Bill Murray – Ant Man & The Wasp: Quantumania
Franco Nero – The Pope’s Exorcist
Sylvester Stallone – Expend4ables

Worst Director
Rhys Frake-Waterfield – Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey
David Gordon Green – The Exorcist: Believer
Peyton Reed – Ant Man & the Wasp: Quantumania
Scott Waugh – Expend4bles
Ben Wheatley – Meg 2: The Trench

Worst Screenplay
The Exorcist: Believer
Expend4bles
Indiana Jones and the Dial of…Can I go home now?
Shazam! Fury of the Gods
Winnie the Pooh: Blood & Honey

Worst Screen Couple
Any 2 “Merciless Mercenaries” – Expend4bles
Any 2 Money-Grubbing Investors Who Donated to the $400 Million for Remake Rights to The Exorcist
Ana de Armas & Chris Evans (who flunked Screen Chemistry) – Ghosted
Salma Hayek & Channing Tatum – Magic Mike’s Last Dance
Pooh & Piglet as Blood-Thirsty Slasher/Killers(!) in Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey

Worst Prequel, Remake, Rip-Off or Sequel
Ant Man & The Wasp: Quantumania
The Exorcist: Believer
Expend4bles
Indiana Jones and The Dial of…Still Beating a Dead Horse
Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey

That last thing you mentioned: I'm glad it wasn't spelled out one way or the other, but I did come to believe that's what happened.

• Pictures of Ghosts – Kleber Mendonça Filho

<3 highly recommend this. to be honest, I just love to see my hometown in a big screen (it played in NYFF last year)

Ha, I saw the Ant-Man movie and I can't remember at all that Bill Murray was in it.

And now we arrive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypr7MgU1Ykw

Oh, is it time?

I'm ready

no Dafoe!

wait did KOTFM get snubbed for screenplay?

America Ferrera and ugh Emily Blunt made it.

good job everyone who called Ferrera

I don't think Blunt was in doubt.

No, she wasn't. I'm registering my disgust.

Cord Jefferson is the first ex-Gawker Oscar nominee

Diane Warren doesn't miss

surprised American Symphony didn't make it in doc

Wow -- the expected Zone of Interest aside, the most toothless int'l film nominees since the '90s.

was Taste of Things expected in international?

hell yeah Zone of Interest nom in sound

whoa the El Condé nom

Colman Domingo over Scrunchy Face.

Annette Bening!

omg Bening

so, no Robbie

and no Gerwig for director

Glazer and Triet made it.

so the PGA slate repeats, as expected

With Bening in the race now, I wonder if the chatter will turn to honoring her at last.

Yeah, best actress now becomes kind of the hottest acting race

yeah that'll be interesting. but it also feels like a nomination from the acting branch that the academy as a whole might not be as enthusiastic about.

These nominations are more bad than good, but I'll admit that's as respectable a 10-deep best picture lineup as we've had since category expansion.

I'm not mad about Mulligan -- I never am -- but the Best Actress nominees are among the strongest in a while.

Saltburn shutout?

Appears so? I had a feeling that was a BAFTAs phenomenon.

surprised gerwig didn't get a director nom.

The Academy doesn't like comedy.

I liked Anatomy of a Fall quite a bit, but Barbie seems like a more accomplished directorial achievement. (Comparing them not bc they're both women but bc Triet took the slot Gerwig was expected to fill.)