Hugh MacDiarmid made a heroic attempt to reinvent or reinvigorate Scots, raiding the dictionary, inventing new words, let me see if I can find a good summary.
― Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 January 2024 18:35 (two years ago)
The man who created the climate for modern literature in Scots was a radical Communist and nationalist called Christopher Murray Grieve, alias Hugh MacDiarmid. Grieve was a native Scots speaker from Langholm near the English border; single-handedly, he dragged Scots out of the couthy Kailyard to re-create it as a medium of poetry of international calibre. His method of doing this was novel: augmenting his native Scots with words from dictionaries, seeking words from different dialects and past ages of the language, and inventing words of his own when all else failed. What he in fact did was little different from Dante’s achievement in creating a national tongue out of the welter of Italian dialects at the beginning of the fourteenth century; MacDiarmid’s achievement may be recognised in the same terms some day, but for the moment an anglicised Scotland is still getting over the shock of the despised patois being taken seriously internationally once again.
― Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 January 2024 18:37 (two years ago)
One of the reasons Scots is extra-mutually intelligible with English is that the latter has influenced it so much over the centuries
― Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 11:49 (two years ago)
That website is a literal treasure trove - I could spend hours listening to this stuff...
― Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:21 (two years ago)
Happy Burns Nicht!
― Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:27 (two years ago)
Slàinthe Mhath!
― Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:29 (two years ago)
Whit like?
― Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 January 2024 01:06 (two years ago)
Would any of you be interested in a dystopian sf novel written only in Scots?
― Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 January 2024 16:04 (two years ago)
Maybe I should post on the sf thread.
― Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 January 2024 16:06 (two years ago)
Yes please. Sea also 'Deep Wheel Orcadia', a verse novel written in the Scots/Norse Orkney dialect.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 29 January 2024 22:58 (two years ago)
An interesting article I came upon today: Why Scotland lost its tongue
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 29 January 2024 23:31 (two years ago)
Okay, that was pretty good, although maybe some oversimplification.
― Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 00:21 (two years ago)
― Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 00:23 (two years ago)
Some Scots speakers I know are very into both of those books.
― Al Green Explores Your Mind Gardens (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 23:44 (two years ago)
https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/31/gpt4_gaelic_safety/
― Al Green Explores Your Mind Gardens (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 18:26 (two years ago)
Deep Wheel Orcadia is very good!
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 2 February 2024 04:27 (two years ago)
Thanks. I believe you are also a fan of James Hogg’s The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner, although I don’t know how much Scots one can find in that one.
― Al Green Explores Your Mind Gardens (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 February 2024 05:14 (two years ago)
That is a fucking brilliant book!
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 5 February 2024 23:53 (two years ago)
I heard it was kind of lost until André Gide rediscovered it.
― Al Green Explores Your Mind Gardens (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 00:37 (two years ago)
Is the Editor’s Note a framing story, I wonder.
― Al Green Explores Your Mind Gardens (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 18:23 (two years ago)
This story has been making the rounds: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czd75qn08z1o
― Al Green Explores Your Mind Gardens (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 18:29 (two years ago)
One of the greatest words in Scots and maybe in any language is “weirdless,” which means “unlucky” or “inept,” because one’s “weird” (Fate) has deserted him.
― Al Green Explores Your Mind Gardens (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 February 2024 02:49 (two years ago)
Really enjoyed But n Ben A-Go-Go.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 20:55 (two years ago)
http://textualities.net/tag/matthew-fitt
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 February 2024 23:12 (two years ago)
^That’s a little amuse-bouche from the world of the novel. Here is something longer, the second chapter of the book itself, at least from a prepublication version of it, although I don’t notice any differences:https://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/critical/aboutus/resources/stella/projects/starn/prose/sair-heid-city/
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 February 2024 19:33 (two years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0rgETg2Hoo
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 February 2024 20:47 (two years ago)
Uses one of my recent new favorite words, lumber, I think.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 February 2024 20:48 (two years ago)
Since you've moved on to Glaswegian I hope you're familiar with the Boaby Gillespie skits in this very forum.
― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Friday, 23 February 2024 20:52 (two years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMnKPnPhhYw
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 February 2024 20:54 (two years ago)
Reminds me that I just read that Edwin Morgan came out when he was 70, I think.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 February 2024 21:01 (two years ago)
I even have a book called Scotspeak which has detailed phonetic info about the different accents, co-authored by Christine Robinson, Director of Scottish Language Dictionaries.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 February 2024 21:04 (two years ago)
And have I told you about the Doric Express yet?
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 February 2024 21:13 (two years ago)
Okay, this one is too deep for me:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cio3RFU8nlQ
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 February 2024 21:15 (two years ago)
Here's the Scotspeak audio: http://www.scotspeak.co.uk
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 February 2024 21:23 (two years ago)
(xp) I'm glad they didn't go to Brixton... or Birmingham. Maybe those were edited out though!
― The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Friday, 23 February 2024 22:12 (two years ago)
Not sure how I am ever getting out of this rabbit hole.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 February 2024 19:10 (two years ago)
I just got a copy of the ScotsThesaurus published by the Scottish National Dictionary Association which later was folded into Dictionary of Scots Language.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 February 2024 19:29 (two years ago)
Learned a funny expression called Banff bailies.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 February 2024 19:31 (two years ago)
https://occasionalscotland.blogspot.com/2012/02/skywatch-friday-banff-baillies.html
I hadn't even know there was a Banff in Scotland!
known
https://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/banff_bailies
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 February 2024 19:32 (two years ago)
https://www.dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/elfshot
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 March 2024 22:31 (two years ago)
Detour into Manx up ahead!
― There Will Come Claude Rains (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 00:23 (two years ago)
― Make Me Smile (Come Around and See Me) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 March 2024 01:21 (two years ago)
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/scotland-now/distinctive-scottish-regional-accent-named-32398891
― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 March 2024 17:11 (two years ago)
Currently watching the Wales v Finland European Championship playoff... only available in Welsh.
― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 March 2024 20:23 (two years ago)
Sorry, Cymru v. Y Ffyndir
― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 March 2024 20:26 (two years ago)
Thanks. I believe you are also a fan of James Hogg’s _The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner_, although I don’t know how much Scots one can find in that one.
― Make Me Smile (Come Around and See Me) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:17 (two years ago)
Here’s the link for the film: https://www.filmlinc.org/films/memoirs-of-a-sinner/
― Make Me Smile (Come Around and See Me) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:27 (two years ago)