I watched a bit of one of the X-Men movies in a hotel the other night, and now I'm wondering: does Halle Berry have a beats-the-bar performance? not seen her whole oeuvre though
― rob, Saturday, 30 December 2023 15:23 (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
shes fine in swordfish, bond and that awful awful movie about an asylum with rdj
certainly shes bad, now i havent seen monsters ball tbf
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 15:46 (five months ago) link
and terrible 'actors' with good presence dont qualify, harrison ford most certainly aint it
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:35 (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink
i think we've set out that stall basically
She's lousy in Monster's Ball, especially in the sex scenes.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2023 15:47 (five months ago) link
ah ok, I haven't seen Swordfish or Gothika and remember zero about Die Another Day in general
MB def not in the plus column though, Alfred otm
― rob, Saturday, 30 December 2023 15:54 (five months ago) link
If an actor has a comfort zone they can easily fall into and deliver the goods every time our, they can't contend for this thread. Actually think actors like this frequently get too little credit compared to their more celebrated contemporaries, whose eclecticism and ability to be "versatile" means you hardly see their true, comfortable self. Which isn't to say actors who deal in the latter aren't quite frequently amazing, obv.
― omar little, Saturday, 30 December 2023 15:56 (five months ago) link
I watched Monsters Ball twice, the second time with a guy I was crushing on; he liked the movie, I went limp, I saw him one more time.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2023 15:56 (five months ago) link
omar otm
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:03 (five months ago) link
Bloom qualifies because even his two major franchise roles feel like desperate effort. Everyone discusses "a diversion" but for me it's all about the delivery of "a red sun rises...blood has been spilt this night"....stopping and delivering the line and you can practically see his brain counting down to the mark when he's supposed to resume running.
― omar little, Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:05 (five months ago) link
Has Denise Richards come under discussion? On my phone cannot ctrl-F
Xp to gyac, you’d feel doubly so if you were aware what a terror I’ve become over on Fragrantica
― he’s an adventurer (derogatory) (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:07 (five months ago) link
i think we set out that the performer is question should have had a comparable career but we can relax that one
it does feel that allowing in actor/models is a bit of a cheat tho?
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:10 (five months ago) link
edge of tomorrow was probably the last time I enjoyed cruise as an actor
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:10 (five months ago) link
Keira Knightley is a real test of the bar as is portman i think
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:12 (five months ago) link
rogue nation or maverick prob his best movies and id not have said he was any different (or his being him) was a bigger or smaller part of any of them (id stress not a criticism of edge of tomorrow which was super until it had to end)
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:13 (five months ago) link
i raised portman/knightley as a pair (and rightley so) earlier in thread i hid nothing
portman does all of her acting with her (googles) upper molars
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:14 (five months ago) link
hence her perfect casting in May December.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:15 (five months ago) link
nancy myers perfectly casts furniture and soft furnishings by the same token
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:18 (five months ago) link
Nancy Myers knows how to decorate using Pottery Barn's finest.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:19 (five months ago) link
Denise Richards a very good shout
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:19 (five months ago) link
re: denise richards.... is an actor disqualified if one or more of their performances is perfectly-pitched camp
― ivy., Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:22 (five months ago) link
bc... she is that in wild things. and tammy and the t-rex
― ivy., Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:23 (five months ago) link
i fear that opens the door for radcliffe to escape
bloom will never
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:23 (five months ago) link
Bf and I chatted Andie Macdowell yesterday— she is absolutely amazingly bad in everything, even Maid I would argue, but there is nevertheless something so likeable about her
― he’s an adventurer (derogatory) (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:24 (five months ago) link
I haven't seen Maverick yet, and the more recent MI movies have all blurred together for me + haven't seen the newest one.
perhaps I'm just easily taken in by the trick of Mr Movie Star playing weak or cowardly as in EoT (or EWS, for that matter). likewise I enjoyed him playing a crap dad in War of the Worlds
― rob, Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:24 (five months ago) link
And ivy. otm re Richards. I need to rewatch that awful Bond she’s in, I remember her performance is bonkers
― he’s an adventurer (derogatory) (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:25 (five months ago) link
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:26 (five months ago) link
i hear WOTW but something keeps me away from it, i think i got very very sick of spielberg tbh
McDowell is def v likeable and charming and also id argue model-turned-actor, id need reminding which role she has ever had that demanded more of her than that
richards, in comparison, has definitely had fun in a few things while being that girl
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:28 (five months ago) link
xp i dont see it but im just one voice on the thread
Bale was good in The Prestige!
He's been good in quite a few things, starting with his amazing turn in Empire of the Sun, although I think he is now mostly playing "Christian Bale."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:31 (five months ago) link
which means "DDL but with strain and humorlessness"
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:32 (five months ago) link
While my mind is on monsters from the 90s, I never liked Greg Kinnear in anything, and thought he was abjectly terrible in As Good As It Gets and Little Miss Sunshine; but even worse than him is Cuba Gooding Jr, I cannot think of a less-deserving acting Oscar winner
― he’s an adventurer (derogatory) (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:33 (five months ago) link
id have put in a much stronger defence of bale if id felt it needed tbh but his turn in the big short alone is tiers above the bar
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:34 (five months ago) link
kinnear played the other half of matt damon in a comedy which is something but agreed hes watery eyed and worthy in all else besides
cuba gooding hmm interesting submission id agree bad and limited bat jerry maguire and certainly never shouldve been in running for awards even for that
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:36 (five months ago) link
I never liked Greg Kinnear in anything
The defense submits Auto-Focus as Exhibit A. He was absolutely pitch-perfect in that.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:37 (five months ago) link
Not everyone can be the GOAT.
lol yes also fair, the bar is ddl to steal a phrase
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:39 (five months ago) link
id need reminding which role she has ever had that demanded more of her than that
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:41 (five months ago) link
Cuba Gooding Jr also a good shout, I’ve seen him in several things according to his filmography and I couldn’t tell you a single thing about any of them. Whether that crosses the line from egregiously bland to Bloom country is another debate.
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:42 (five months ago) link
I’ve never seen it but is she at least passable in sex lies and videotape?
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac),
Well-cast, yes.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:44 (five months ago) link
I enjoyed Edge of Tomorrow enough to watch it a few times, but I don't think Tom Cruise brought much to it - he was just an easily replaceable part (as long as he wasn't replaced by someone who'd totally stink it up like Matt Damon) of an impressive sci-fi movie - but I would say that cos I can't stand the fucking guy.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:45 (five months ago) link
the J Gyllenhaalster would have been a better casting choice imo
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:48 (five months ago) link
Admittedly Kinnear is great in that Courtney Cox-in-a-house show that my bf enjoys to watch
Idk what in the world people see in Bale’s performance in Empire Of The Sun, few movies have left me with a greater desire to imprison a child
― he’s an adventurer (derogatory) (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:49 (five months ago) link
exempting that kid from matilda/mrs.doubtfire i presume?
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:51 (five months ago) link
matt damon is great in so much stuff
id say you wouldn't quickly swap his roles in the martian or the informant with cruise to good effect for starters
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:52 (five months ago) link
Damon's an example of an actor who's relaxed on hitting middle age and is a genuine pleasure to watch like he never was even 25 years ago (see: Paul Newman).
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:53 (five months ago) link
Late nom here for Holly Hunter. I will admit to not havng seen her in any of her award-winning roles. But her performances in everything I have encountered her in, namely Crash, Copycat and a couple of Coen Bros, enraged me beyond belief. The prim expression on her face as she enunciates the dialogue as if reading off a cue sheet! Her lack of a lack of screen presence, which might at least make her tolerable! Sorry, I know everyone thinks she's a genius but she's my #1 most hated actor, beyond even Jack Black in onscreen obnoxiousness.
― 1980 Jackanory spinoff (Matt #2), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:54 (five months ago) link
You wouldn't say that if you'd seen her in Broadcast News ffs
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:55 (five months ago) link
xp You didn't like her in Raising Arizona? The mind reels.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:56 (five months ago) link
wrong!!!!
― ivy., Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:56 (five months ago) link
a booming entry to the thread matt
not that i agree but the passion and case made are 8/10 imo
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 December 2023 16:56 (five months ago) link