This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2023

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Some good ballots scattered throughout: https://www.filmcomment.com/best-films-of-2023-individual-ballots/

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2023 20:03 (two years ago)

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Richard Brody (critic, The New Yorker)

19. The Color Purple
20. Our Body

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2023 20:06 (two years ago)

And then this one, in its entirety:

Nathan Lee (critic, scholar)

John Wick: Chapter 4

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2023 20:22 (two years ago)

i think the only critic bate movies i've seen this year were Pacifiction (i loved) and Afire (fine, bring back Hoss). I haven't heard of most of these though i did study rogowski's outfit in the stills of that one movie using google image search but that's all i really wanted out of it.

plax (ico), Friday, 15 December 2023 20:30 (two years ago)

ill probably watch some of them after they're on a richard brody end of list like every other uncle

plax (ico), Friday, 15 December 2023 20:31 (two years ago)

I've always hate-read OG's year-worst lists, but this year, his biggest swing happens to be for a movie I also hated: https://variety.com/lists/worst-movies-2023/owen-gleiberman-worst-films/

(At least his dumb swipe against the majesty of Magic Mike XXL restores order a bit.)

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2023 20:32 (two years ago)

Sharing Toronto crix only because they're just about the only ones left of the regionals that aren't breaking hard for Oppenheimer:

Best Picture: The Zone of Interest
(RUs: All of Us Strangers & Killers of the Flower Moon)

Best Director: Jonathan Glazer, The Zone of Interest
(RUs: Martin Scorsese, Killers of the Flower Moon & Justine Triet, Anatomy of a Fall)

Best Lead Performance: Lily Gladstone, Killers of the Flower Moon & Sandra Hüller, Anatomy of a Fall
(RUs: Paul Giamatti, The Holdovers & Andrew Scott, All of Us Strangers & Emma Stone, Poor Things & Kôji Yakusho, Perfect Days)

Best Supporting Performance: Ryan Gosling, Barbie & Da’Vine Joy Randolph, The Holdovers
(RUs: Robert De Niro, Killers of the Flower Moon & Robert Downey, Jr., Oppenheimer & Glenn Howerton, BlackBerry & Charles Melton, May December)

Best Original Screenplay: Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumbach, Barbie
(RUs: Justine Triet and Arthur Harari, Anatomy of a Fall & Celine Song, Past Lives)

Best Adapted Screenplay: Eric Roth and Martin Scorsese, Killers of the Flower Moon
(RUs: Andrew Haigh, All of Us Strangers & Tony McNamara, Poor Things)

Best Animated Feature: Robot Dreams
(RUs: The Boy and the Heron & Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse)

Allan King Documentary Award: 20 Days in Mariupol
(RUs: The Eternal Memory & Four Daughters & Swan Song)

Best International Feature: Fallen Leaves
(RUs: Anatomy of a Fall & The Zone of Interest)

Best First Feature: Rye Lane
(RUs: American Fiction & Past Lives)

Breakthrough Performance: Teyana Taylor, A Thousand and One
(RUs: Charles Melton, May December & Dominic Sessa, The Holdovers)

Best Performance in a Canadian Film: Glenn Howerton, BlackBerry
(RUs: Jay Baruchel, BlackBerry & Théodore Pellerin, Solo)

Rogers Best Canadian Film nominees: BlackBerry, Humanist Vampire Seeking Consenting Suicidal Person, and Solo
Rogers Best Documentary Award nominees: Rojek, Someone Lives Here, and Swan Song

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Monday, 18 December 2023 22:56 (two years ago)

Stay tuned

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2023 23:13 (two years ago)

I def am … for the International Cinephile Society’s picks in February

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 00:34 (two years ago)

The Film Stage list is eccentric - Holdovers shouldn’t be in the top 50, let alone top 10.

https://thefilmstage.com/the-film-stages-top-50-films-of-2023/

Piedie Gimbel, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 22:05 (two years ago)

I do love it when Afire reaches the upper tier

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 22:09 (two years ago)

Past Lives held up very well for me the second time. I hope it gets AA nominations for film, director, script, and both leads. But does it have a chance at even one? Do films like that still get the consolation script nomination?

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:17 (two years ago)

I think screenplay was always a possibility, but now I think it could maybe sneak into Best Picture. Wouldn't have thought so a few weeks ago, but the Globe nominations give it a lot of visibility right now. Anything else feels like a long shot unless SAG surprises with a nomination for Greta Lee.

jaymc, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:29 (two years ago)

It's got Original Screenplay nod sewn up and I would bet on a BP nomination too.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 13:40 (two years ago)

Greta Lee's feels increasingly plausible, but she's probably going to have to knock out Huller or Robbie to get there. Teo Yoo def gave my favorite of the three performances tho

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 14:55 (two years ago)

(Am still fantasizing about Maestro somehow coming up blank in the major categories.)

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:19 (two years ago)

(xpost) Both great, but I'd agree, he was the slightly greater of the two. Some beautiful cinematography, too.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:44 (two years ago)

I'm not persuaded Robbie makes it.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:49 (two years ago)

The headlines write themselves if that comes to pass

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:14 (two years ago)

Esp since Mulligan plays "a wife," Huller plays "a wife," and even Gladstone plays "a wife" if you so choose to bend the narrative to fit that whole hot take

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:16 (two years ago)

xps Glenn Kenny even put The Holdovers at #10.

I liked it - not as much, but if I had to pick 20 or 30 films worth seeing this year, it would be there.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:17 (two years ago)

Which Huller performance is tipped for the nomination? Could she be nominated twice?

o. nate, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:24 (two years ago)

She could be (it's happened before), but the Anatomy of a Fall nom seems more likely.

jaymc, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:27 (two years ago)

I must say, the embrace of Da'Vine Joy Randolph's work has disappointed me. The role is a tired musty thing which she tries her best to polish. Voters who chose it, sorry, weren't watching many films in 2023.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:28 (two years ago)

It feels a little bit like one of those cases where a truly wide-open field somehow breaks in the exact opposite direction because, I guess, intertia?

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:29 (two years ago)

As of rn, and what's viable, I'm backing Rachel McAdams pretty wholeheartedly

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:31 (two years ago)

In my group we'll know soon.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:33 (two years ago)

She could be (it's happened before), but the Anatomy of a Fall nom seems more likely.

― jaymc, Wednesday, December 20, 2023 11:27 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

To clarify, actors have been nominated before in separate categories (lead and supporting) in the same year, most recently ScarJo in 2019. AFAIK, there aren't any rules against actors being nominated twice in the same category, it's just never happened before. But if Huller were nominated for Zone of Interest, it would be in supporting.

jaymc, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:33 (two years ago)

I am going to see The Holdovers just for those faces Giamatti makes.

Chris L, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:46 (two years ago)

You're in luck. He makes them.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:19 (two years ago)

London Film Crix much sweeter on All of Us Strangers than stateside's been so far:

Film of the Year

All of Us Strangers
Anatomy of a Fall
Barbie
The Holdovers
Killers of the Flower Moon
May December
Oppenheimer
Past Lives
Poor Things
The Zone of Interest

Director of the Year

Greta Gerwig, Barbie
Jonathan Glazer, The Zone of Interest
Yorgos Lanthimos, Poor Things
Christopher Nolan, Oppenheimer
Martin Scorsese, Killers of the Flower Moon

Actor of the Year

Bradley Cooper, Maestro
Paul Giamatti, The Holdovers
Cillian Murphy, Oppenheimer
Andrew Scott, All of Us Strangers
Jeffrey Wright, American Fiction

Actress of the Year

Lily Gladstone, Killers of the Flower Moon
Sandra Hüller, Anatomy of a Fall
Greta Lee, Past Lives
Carey Mulligan, Maestro
Emma Stone, Poor Things

Supporting Actor of the Year

Robert Downey Jr., Oppenheimer
Ryan Gosling, Barbie
Charles Melton, May December
Paul Mescal, All of Us Strangers
Mark Ruffalo, Poor Things

Supporting Actress of the Year

Claire Foy, All of Us Strangers
Sandra Hüller, The Zone of Interest
Julianne Moore, May December
Rosamund Pike, Saltburn
Da’Vine Joy Randolph, The Holdovers

Breakthrough Performer of the Year

Greta Lee, Past Lives
Mia McKenna-Bruce, How to Have Sex
Vivian Oparah, Rye Lane
Dominic Sessa, The Holdovers
Cailee Spaeny, Priscilla

Screenwriter of the Year

Andrew Haigh, All of Us Strangers
Justine Triet and Arthur Harari, Anatomy of a Fall
Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumbach, Barbie
Christopher Nolan, Oppenheimer
Celine Song, Past Lives

Animated Film of the Year

The Boy and the Heron
Robot Dreams
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
Suzume
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem

Documentary of the Year

20 Days in Mariupol
Beyond Utopia
The Eternal Memory
Scala!!!
Still: A Michael J. Fox Movie

Foreign Language Film of the Year

Anatomy of a Fall
The Boy and the Heron
Fallen Leaves
Past Lives
The Zone of Interest

British/Irish Film of the Year

All of Us Strangers
How to Have Sex
Poor Things
Rye Lane
The Zone of Interest

THE ATTENBOROUGH AWARD: British/Irish Performer of the Year

Paul Mescal for All of Us Strangers, God’s Creatures, Foe, and Carmen
Carey Mulligan for Maestro and Saltburn
Cillian Murphy for Oppenheimer
Andrew Scott for All of Us Strangers
Tilda Swinton for The Eternal Daughter, The Killer, and Asteroid City

THE PHILIP FRENCH AWARD: Breakthrough British/Irish Filmmaker

Raine Allen-Miller, Rye Lane
Sam H. Freeman and Ng Choon Ping, Femme
Molly Manning Walker, How to Have Sex
Nida Manzoor, Polite Society
Charlotte Regan, Scrapper

British/Irish Short Film of the Year

For People in Trouble (Alex Lawther)
Muna (Warda Mohammed)
Outlets (Duncan Cowles)
Predators (Jack King)
The Veiled City (Nathalie Cubides-Brady)

Technical Achievement Award

All of Us Strangers – Kahleen Crawford for casting
Barbie – Sarah Greenwood for production design
The First Slam Dunk – Kôji Kasamatsu for sound design
Full Time – Mathilde Van De Moortel for film editing
Killers of the Flower Moon – Thelma Schoonmaker for film editing
Medusa Deluxe – Eugene Souleiman for makeup & hair
Oppenheimer – Andrew Jackson for visual effects
Past Lives – Shabier Kirchner for cinematography
Poor Things – Holly Waddington for costumes
Saltburn – Kharmel Cochrane for casting
The Zone of Interest – Mica Levi for music & Johnnie Burn for sound

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 22:27 (two years ago)

We'll announce our winners around noon EST. I'm shocked in the best sort of way.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 December 2023 13:59 (two years ago)

Bold prediction: you will not see me being excited about the winners either of the groups I’m in selects. (Not Sl4nt. Those ones I am routinely proud of.)

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 December 2023 15:45 (two years ago)

We did it.

http://www.floridafilmcritics.com/2023/12/21/the-boy-and-the-heron-flies-high-with-florida-film-critics/

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:45 (two years ago)

wow, great picks?!!!?!

ivy., Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:56 (two years ago)

Ok, I’ll hand it to you, that’s a good slate

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:57 (two years ago)

The screenplay categories are gonna break my spirit this year

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:59 (two years ago)

I was particularly proud of Rogowski and Best Director.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:21 (two years ago)

Yeah, I think (shockingly) that's Haynes' first actual crix citation?

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 December 2023 21:13 (two years ago)

No!!

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 December 2023 21:35 (two years ago)

On a much dumber note, AMPAS releases shortlists for a number of categories: https://aframe.oscars.org/news/post/96th-oscars-shortlists

It's beginning to look a lot like Society of the Snow's mounting an All Quiet-ish run?

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:03 (two years ago)

I’m only sorry Morbs wasn’t alive to see it

Earlier this year, writers and actors went on strike to advocate for better working conditions and protections. It led to important changes that will transform the industry for the better.

Here are some films that reflect their hard work over the last year — including some like… pic.twitter.com/TMH9LeQgsT

— Barack Obama (@BarackObama) December 27, 2023

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 December 2023 00:05 (two years ago)

dude couldn't even give a nod to barbie? cmon man

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 28 December 2023 00:30 (two years ago)

He’s lost his politic touch

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 December 2023 00:42 (two years ago)

(Also, everyone’s dunking on the Leave the World Behind citation, but Rustin is pretty embarrassing as a movie also)

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 December 2023 00:43 (two years ago)

Shorts not eligible? https://boxd.it/Iq04

jaymc, Thursday, 28 December 2023 00:59 (two years ago)

Oprah made a call. https://t.co/qMC8zHCAaP

— FilmBart (@FilmBart) December 28, 2023

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Friday, 29 December 2023 18:19 (two years ago)

he would love American Fiction.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 December 2023 18:57 (two years ago)

https://thereveal.substack.com/p/the-best-movies-of-2023-scotts-list

This "bonus award" caught my eye, as sort of an ashes-to-ashes moment for why I believe this will be the last year I do detrius threads here:

Most Annoying Discourse: The death of discourse.
Every year, there are usually so many candidates for this category, as awards contenders send everyone to their battle stations and social media is flush with extreme positions on the movies of the day. Yet Twitter has always been the primary driver of annoying discourse and its collapse this year under Elon Musk’s leadership has scattered enough users to the winds that few issues have gained much traction. Even Bradley Cooper’s prosthetic nose in Maestro, a classic annoying-discourse topic, failed to stoke more than an extinguishable brush fire. We still have a couple of months before the Oscars to turn things around, but these eyes have not been rolling as often as they usually do.

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 17:45 (two years ago)

She’s trying to find good acting in Maestro https://t.co/xrBszXLLrE

— Rocco T. Thompson (@roccotthompson) January 3, 2024

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 19:41 (two years ago)


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