Three of those are 2022 releases going with the U.S. theatrical release - maybe there was a belated U.K. release?
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 01:06 (two years ago)
(The three being No Bears, the belated theatrical distribution of The Runner, and Saint Omer. All great FWIW.)
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 01:07 (two years ago)
Chicago gets right into the middle(brow) of it all:
Best Picture: Killers of the Flower MoonBest Director: Christopher Nolan, OppenheimerBest Actor: Paul Giamatti, The HoldoversBest Actress: Emma Stone, Poor ThingsBest Supporting Actor: Charles Melton, May DecemberBest Supporting Actress: Da’Vine Joy Randolph, The HoldoversBest Original Screenplay: Samy Burch, May DecemberBest Adapted Screenplay: Eric Roth and Martin Scorsese, Killers of the Flower MoonBest Animated Feature: The Boy and the HeronBest Documentary: Kokomo CityBest Foreign Language Film: The Zone of Interest
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 16:00 (two years ago)
We have spoken!
http://www.floridafilmcritics.com/2023/12/13/oppenheimer-killers-of-the-flower-moon-past-lives-lead-pack-with-most-nominations/
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 22:06 (two years ago)
I only got a few of mine in, guess which
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 22:08 (two years ago)
exp It's strange how Chicago really put middlebrow criticism on the map with Siskel & Ebert and yet it was also the home base to some of the very best alternative weekly critics of the past 50 years (maybe even the two best).
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 23:53 (two years ago)
That's new - autocorrect turning xxp into exp
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 23:54 (two years ago)
Rogowski, McAdams, and Weaver?Were you among those holding Barbie off at the pass?
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 23:57 (two years ago)
it was also the home base to some of the very best alternative weekly critics of the past 50 years (maybe even the two best).Rosenbaum and ... Kehr?
― jaymc, Thursday, 14 December 2023 00:18 (two years ago)
Dave Kehr, correct - though it's kind of weird he did a stint at the Chicago Tribune while Siskel was still there. Per an interview he did decades later (after Siskel had long passed), I think he said the Trib had a falling out with Siskel over something to do with his TV show and hired Kehr to replace him, only to realize soon after that it was stupid to fire a critic who got the paper priceless advertising/publicity via a popular weekly TV show, so they hired him back as a "columnist" with Kehr in Siskel's old position.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 14 December 2023 01:29 (two years ago)
Rogowski, McAdams, and Weaver?
Were you among those holding Barbie off at the pass?
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.)
Barbie wasn't even a factor.
Yes, no, yes.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 December 2023 01:33 (two years ago)
Critics Choice noms:https://variety.com/2023/film/awards/critics-choice-nominations-2024-full-list-barbie-1235835620/
Nothing too surprising, other than maybe Saltburn as a best picture nominee.
― jaymc, Thursday, 14 December 2023 01:48 (two years ago)
Saltburn refuses to just die
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 December 2023 02:56 (two years ago)
Those Chicago picks aren't middlebrow.
― Chris L, Thursday, 14 December 2023 14:33 (two years ago)
I like some of those honorees (the ones I've seen at least), but they are absolutely middlebrow. Most big Oscar contenders are.
― jaymc, Thursday, 14 December 2023 14:50 (two years ago)
If Oppenheimer and The Holdovers aren't middlebrow, nothing is
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 December 2023 14:53 (two years ago)
Inspired me to order Dwight MacDonald's Essays Against the American Grain.
― clemenza, Thursday, 14 December 2023 16:02 (two years ago)
Yeah, I think "middlebrow" is sometimes misunderstood as simply middle-of-the-road or bland. But as I undestand it, it's art that appeals to a certain kind of aspirational educated person because it presents itself with a veneer of cultural prestige, even though it is not actually challenging or profound in the way that highbrow art is. It flatters the audience's perception of itself as intelligent and refined. It's often used as a pejorative by critics like MacDonald, but I think it can be useful as a descriptive category regardless of any judgment of quality.
― jaymc, Thursday, 14 December 2023 17:13 (two years ago)
From Classic Hollywood, probably defined by William Wyler and Fred Zinnemann (at its best), or Stanley Kramer (at its not-best).
― clemenza, Thursday, 14 December 2023 17:27 (two years ago)
and today Alexander Payne is the embodiment of it.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 December 2023 17:29 (two years ago)
Nolan most definitely too, when he leaves genre behind
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 December 2023 17:44 (two years ago)
I didn't think it was a good movie, but I did appreciate Payne's ambition on Downsized - it was just too lacking in nuance, falling back on a lot of stereotypes and betraying a shallow grasp of the various issues it tried to tackle. I really wish he pulled it off. The new one is clearly within his comfort zone - not a bad film at all, to be fair.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:01 (two years ago)
Presenting Film Comment's Top 20 Released Films of 2023 Read full film blurbs from FC contributors, critics, and more: https://t.co/IMsZB36vGt pic.twitter.com/H30LivoEnI— Film Comment Magazine (@FilmComment) December 15, 2023
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2023 03:50 (two years ago)
I don’t agree that Payne is thee most middlebrow director alive but OTOH I’m in no rush to see The Holdovers because I’m averse to most stories about middle-aged academics.
― Chris L, Friday, 15 December 2023 07:35 (two years ago)
I will check out Barbie on HBO Max during my vacation and report here on whether it’s middlebrow.
― Chris L, Friday, 15 December 2023 07:42 (two years ago)
At the risk of sounding like Meryl Streep in Manhattan, you could probably come up with an interesting Venn Diagram based on Macdonald's idea of middlebrow and Manny Farber's white-elephant art. Lots of overlap, but not the same. Dances with Wolves: both.* Apocalypse Now: white elephant, but not middlebrow. And Payne's Election is termite art and definitely not middlebrow. The Holdovers: totally middlebrow.
*(He says, never having seen it.)
― clemenza, Friday, 15 December 2023 13:16 (two years ago)
Some good ballots scattered throughout: https://www.filmcomment.com/best-films-of-2023-individual-ballots/
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2023 20:03 (two years ago)
👀
Richard Brody (critic, The New Yorker)19. The Color Purple20. Our Body
19. The Color Purple20. Our Body
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2023 20:06 (two years ago)
And then this one, in its entirety:
Nathan Lee (critic, scholar)John Wick: Chapter 4
John Wick: Chapter 4
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2023 20:22 (two years ago)
i think the only critic bate movies i've seen this year were Pacifiction (i loved) and Afire (fine, bring back Hoss). I haven't heard of most of these though i did study rogowski's outfit in the stills of that one movie using google image search but that's all i really wanted out of it.
― plax (ico), Friday, 15 December 2023 20:30 (two years ago)
ill probably watch some of them after they're on a richard brody end of list like every other uncle
― plax (ico), Friday, 15 December 2023 20:31 (two years ago)
I've always hate-read OG's year-worst lists, but this year, his biggest swing happens to be for a movie I also hated: https://variety.com/lists/worst-movies-2023/owen-gleiberman-worst-films/
(At least his dumb swipe against the majesty of Magic Mike XXL restores order a bit.)
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2023 20:32 (two years ago)
Sharing Toronto crix only because they're just about the only ones left of the regionals that aren't breaking hard for Oppenheimer:
Best Picture: The Zone of Interest(RUs: All of Us Strangers & Killers of the Flower Moon)Best Director: Jonathan Glazer, The Zone of Interest(RUs: Martin Scorsese, Killers of the Flower Moon & Justine Triet, Anatomy of a Fall)Best Lead Performance: Lily Gladstone, Killers of the Flower Moon & Sandra Hüller, Anatomy of a Fall(RUs: Paul Giamatti, The Holdovers & Andrew Scott, All of Us Strangers & Emma Stone, Poor Things & Kôji Yakusho, Perfect Days)Best Supporting Performance: Ryan Gosling, Barbie & Da’Vine Joy Randolph, The Holdovers(RUs: Robert De Niro, Killers of the Flower Moon & Robert Downey, Jr., Oppenheimer & Glenn Howerton, BlackBerry & Charles Melton, May December)Best Original Screenplay: Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumbach, Barbie(RUs: Justine Triet and Arthur Harari, Anatomy of a Fall & Celine Song, Past Lives)Best Adapted Screenplay: Eric Roth and Martin Scorsese, Killers of the Flower Moon(RUs: Andrew Haigh, All of Us Strangers & Tony McNamara, Poor Things)Best Animated Feature: Robot Dreams(RUs: The Boy and the Heron & Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse)Allan King Documentary Award: 20 Days in Mariupol(RUs: The Eternal Memory & Four Daughters & Swan Song)Best International Feature: Fallen Leaves(RUs: Anatomy of a Fall & The Zone of Interest)Best First Feature: Rye Lane(RUs: American Fiction & Past Lives)Breakthrough Performance: Teyana Taylor, A Thousand and One(RUs: Charles Melton, May December & Dominic Sessa, The Holdovers)Best Performance in a Canadian Film: Glenn Howerton, BlackBerry(RUs: Jay Baruchel, BlackBerry & Théodore Pellerin, Solo)Rogers Best Canadian Film nominees: BlackBerry, Humanist Vampire Seeking Consenting Suicidal Person, and SoloRogers Best Documentary Award nominees: Rojek, Someone Lives Here, and Swan Song
Best Director: Jonathan Glazer, The Zone of Interest(RUs: Martin Scorsese, Killers of the Flower Moon & Justine Triet, Anatomy of a Fall)
Best Lead Performance: Lily Gladstone, Killers of the Flower Moon & Sandra Hüller, Anatomy of a Fall(RUs: Paul Giamatti, The Holdovers & Andrew Scott, All of Us Strangers & Emma Stone, Poor Things & Kôji Yakusho, Perfect Days)
Best Supporting Performance: Ryan Gosling, Barbie & Da’Vine Joy Randolph, The Holdovers(RUs: Robert De Niro, Killers of the Flower Moon & Robert Downey, Jr., Oppenheimer & Glenn Howerton, BlackBerry & Charles Melton, May December)
Best Original Screenplay: Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumbach, Barbie(RUs: Justine Triet and Arthur Harari, Anatomy of a Fall & Celine Song, Past Lives)
Best Adapted Screenplay: Eric Roth and Martin Scorsese, Killers of the Flower Moon(RUs: Andrew Haigh, All of Us Strangers & Tony McNamara, Poor Things)
Best Animated Feature: Robot Dreams(RUs: The Boy and the Heron & Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse)
Allan King Documentary Award: 20 Days in Mariupol(RUs: The Eternal Memory & Four Daughters & Swan Song)
Best International Feature: Fallen Leaves(RUs: Anatomy of a Fall & The Zone of Interest)
Best First Feature: Rye Lane(RUs: American Fiction & Past Lives)
Breakthrough Performance: Teyana Taylor, A Thousand and One(RUs: Charles Melton, May December & Dominic Sessa, The Holdovers)
Best Performance in a Canadian Film: Glenn Howerton, BlackBerry(RUs: Jay Baruchel, BlackBerry & Théodore Pellerin, Solo)
Rogers Best Canadian Film nominees: BlackBerry, Humanist Vampire Seeking Consenting Suicidal Person, and SoloRogers Best Documentary Award nominees: Rojek, Someone Lives Here, and Swan Song
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Monday, 18 December 2023 22:56 (two years ago)
Stay tuned
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2023 23:13 (two years ago)
I def am … for the International Cinephile Society’s picks in February
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 00:34 (two years ago)
The Film Stage list is eccentric - Holdovers shouldn’t be in the top 50, let alone top 10.
https://thefilmstage.com/the-film-stages-top-50-films-of-2023/
― Piedie Gimbel, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 22:05 (two years ago)
I do love it when Afire reaches the upper tier
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 22:09 (two years ago)
Past Lives held up very well for me the second time. I hope it gets AA nominations for film, director, script, and both leads. But does it have a chance at even one? Do films like that still get the consolation script nomination?
― clemenza, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:17 (two years ago)
I think screenplay was always a possibility, but now I think it could maybe sneak into Best Picture. Wouldn't have thought so a few weeks ago, but the Globe nominations give it a lot of visibility right now. Anything else feels like a long shot unless SAG surprises with a nomination for Greta Lee.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:29 (two years ago)
It's got Original Screenplay nod sewn up and I would bet on a BP nomination too.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 13:40 (two years ago)
Greta Lee's feels increasingly plausible, but she's probably going to have to knock out Huller or Robbie to get there. Teo Yoo def gave my favorite of the three performances tho
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 14:55 (two years ago)
(Am still fantasizing about Maestro somehow coming up blank in the major categories.)
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:19 (two years ago)
(xpost) Both great, but I'd agree, he was the slightly greater of the two. Some beautiful cinematography, too.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:44 (two years ago)
I'm not persuaded Robbie makes it.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:49 (two years ago)
The headlines write themselves if that comes to pass
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:14 (two years ago)
Esp since Mulligan plays "a wife," Huller plays "a wife," and even Gladstone plays "a wife" if you so choose to bend the narrative to fit that whole hot take
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:16 (two years ago)
xps Glenn Kenny even put The Holdovers at #10.
I liked it - not as much, but if I had to pick 20 or 30 films worth seeing this year, it would be there.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:17 (two years ago)
Which Huller performance is tipped for the nomination? Could she be nominated twice?
― o. nate, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:24 (two years ago)
She could be (it's happened before), but the Anatomy of a Fall nom seems more likely.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:27 (two years ago)
I must say, the embrace of Da'Vine Joy Randolph's work has disappointed me. The role is a tired musty thing which she tries her best to polish. Voters who chose it, sorry, weren't watching many films in 2023.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:28 (two years ago)