Might as well be dead after the first few posts of this thread here:
HAPPENING NOW: Rudy Giuliani is back in federal court (on time today) for the second day of his defamation damages trial. We’re likely to see testimony today from Ruby Freeman and/or Shaye Moss as well as their expert who will advocate for a multimillion award.— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) December 12, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 16:22 (six months ago) link
The testimony from Shaye Moss was heartbreaking.
― brownie, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 16:56 (six months ago) link
He repeated the baseless slanders towards Moss and Freeman outside the court in front of cameras.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:30 (six months ago) link
HOWELL is incredulous: How could Giuliani's lawyer say Freeman/Moss are "good people" who didn't deserve what happened to them when Rudy is outside the courthouse saying they are criminals. "I’m not sure how it’s reconcilable," Giuliani's lawyer Joe Sibley admits.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:36 (six months ago) link
I hope he dies broke, homeless and alone.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 18:05 (six months ago) link
SIBLEY BEGINS: "My client, as you saw last night, likes to talk a lot unfortunately."— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) December 12, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 19:12 (six months ago) link
had he shut his piehole and played the game, he could just be wandering around Times Square doing selfies with tourists and talking about the morning of September 11th for the rest of his life
he blew it
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 19:25 (six months ago) link
"While drooling Johnny Walker Black."
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 19:25 (six months ago) link
As career choices flash before his eyes...
SIBLEY: Why don’t you have enough money to repair your reputation?MOSS: Because your client is still lying on me and ruining my reputation further ... How could you work in law if everyone is saying you’re a horrible lawyer?SIBLEY: You’d be surprised actually.— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) December 12, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 20:06 (six months ago) link
"The testimony from Shaye Moss was heartbreaking."
it's such a compelling testimony, and it's so enraging to see such vulnerable people put in such physical danger by Giuliani and Trump's words. Another horrible villain is that Black Voices For Trump guy who was still doing an intimidation campaign against them on social media until I think he was locked up for it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 21:32 (six months ago) link
So the joy here is that this is Rudy's OWN lawyer saying this as part of closing arguments.
MORE: Sibley repeatedly criticizing Giuliani, comparing him to flat-earthers who will never stop believing election lies, saying he committed an 'injustice' against Moss/Freeman, noting he's almost 80."Rudy Giuliani shouldn’t be defined by what’s happened in recent times."— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) December 14, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:14 (six months ago) link
"My client is a senile old idiot. Pity him?"
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:15 (six months ago) link
Unfrozen caveman lawyer as defendant.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:22 (six months ago) link
Pity the child who has ambitionKnows what he wants to doKnows that he'll never fit the systemOthers expect him to
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:24 (six months ago) link
Lots of 80 year olds don't have a megaphone to ruin other people's lives.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:26 (six months ago) link
Even if the damages judgement is fairly modest - say $4 million - Rudy doesn't have any money. And nobody's gonna come bail him out by selling Rudy NFT's
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:28 (six months ago) link
What if they sold actual pieces of Rudy?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:29 (six months ago) link
take another little piece of his heart now baby
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:30 (six months ago) link
This is my body
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:31 (six months ago) link
his flesh is 90% bourbon
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:33 (six months ago) link
The part of his brain that craves attention seems to be the last part still functioning more or less normally.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:36 (six months ago) link
He's going to have to live off of the Borat 2 residuals I'm afraid.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:45 (six months ago) link
all time own goal lol he shouldve been sitting on corporate boards, collecting speaking fees and so forth, even the more normal things he did like have a law firm, weird cyber security company were beneath his station
― lag∞n, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:39 (six months ago) link
couldve been doing a pretend job at blackrock
― lag∞n, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:41 (six months ago) link
I was thinking about his situation this morning (the local NPR affiliate was covering his case). As a New Yorker, he surely knows that Donald Trump is an utter piece of shit. I think he thought he could leverage proximity to Trump to his own advantage, to continue to get what he obviously needs, which is attention. What he failed to consider is that everyone who comes within the Trump orbit is eventually destroyed.
Of course, it's obvious that he is in mental and physical decline, probably a combination of age and alcohol.
I would feel sorry for him if he weren't such a self-serving asshole.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:42 (six months ago) link
honestly his post-mayoral arc is almost poetically tragic, culminating not in living a chill life in Manhattan but roaming the hinterlands of the U.S. trying to embarrassingly fight for an extraordinarily dumb and bad guy who probably secretly hates him
― omar little, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:45 (six months ago) link
i say "almost" because he was obviously always a POS
its still tragic in the classic sense
― lag∞n, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:46 (six months ago) link
xpost I watched a little bit of some video testimony last year or so, and honestly he did not seem to be in particular mental decline. I think he is just a huge asshole.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:47 (six months ago) link
Eh. He appeared in court the other day with his belt undone. More significantly, a lot of his public statements seem confused. He's certainly not as sharp as he was even ten years ago.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:52 (six months ago) link
He definitely *looks* terrible!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:53 (six months ago) link
But he is indeed a huge asshole. Always has been. I remember when he announced his candidate for mayor. I was living in New York at the time, and one of my co-workers, who was deeply involved in and passionate about city politics, was outraged. He said Giuliani had nothing to offer the city, he was doing it for his own self-aggrandizement. He wasn't wrong.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:53 (six months ago) link
*candidacy
was it a....cardboard belt?
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:54 (six months ago) link
I've seen it suggested that his antics yesterday was him making the mistake of thinking that he can get away with acting like Trump outside a courtroom, which of course nobody else in the US can. Also seen it suggested that it was possibly tactical, a rather pathetic attempt to play towards a mistrial.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:54 (six months ago) link
As for public statements, "confused" is generally the GOP default. That's what happens when most of the stuff you say is bullshit. Like, what would a lucid Trump even sound like? Confusing bluster is his defining trait.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:55 (six months ago) link
It's too late for that.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:55 (six months ago) link
(xp)
every day I open this hoping he has died
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:57 (six months ago) link
xpI figured that would be the case, but you could be forgiven for thinking this guy has never actually practised law before!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:59 (six months ago) link
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― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 15 December 2023 01:41 (six months ago) link
The New York Police Department produced a detailed analysis in 1998 opposing plans by the city to locate its emergency command center at the World Trade Center, but the Giuliani administration overrode those objections. The command center later collapsed from damage in the Sept. 11 terrorist attack.
til the racist bald fuckwit aka "America's Mayor" managed to make the 9/11 emergency response more ineffectual and chaotic, by ignoring good advice.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 15 December 2023 09:47 (six months ago) link
the title of this thread is finally appropriate
https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1735771145993953713
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 15 December 2023 21:20 (six months ago) link
THE DECISION:
DefamationMoss awarded: $16,998,000Freeman awarded: $16,171,000
Emotional distressMoss awarded: $20 millionFreeman awarded: $20 million
Punitive damagesTotal: $75 million
wow!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 15 December 2023 21:24 (six months ago) link
Here's how it hurts Joe Biden.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 December 2023 21:27 (six months ago) link
Very cut and dry case, well deserved.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 December 2023 21:28 (six months ago) link
das alotta cash bb
― lag∞n, Friday, 15 December 2023 21:29 (six months ago) link
What is Rudy worth these days?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 December 2023 21:30 (six months ago) link
not seventy five million dollars
― lag∞n, Friday, 15 December 2023 21:31 (six months ago) link