ILX Film Club, The (1924-2019)

TCAT is minor Hitchcock, but it moves and doesn't waste time. Before you make claims about unwatchable try watching Jamaica Inn, The Paradine Case, I Confess, or Topaz.

LOL I Confess at least has a far from unwatchable Monty, and Jamaica Inn has Laughton, likewise. I know it has its admirers, but Under Capricorn is the unwatchable one for me, in part because it seems to have fallen out of copyright so there are no decent restorations of it on physical media.

Have read back, I now know Under Capricorn it has its admirers including plax

I find Marnie ponderous and deeply stupid but I'm in the minority.

I'm sure I floated the idea on here somewhere that Marnie is Hitchcock's Giallo, and I'm sticking with that.

Glad we're all discussing every Hitchcock except the one just posted :)

The only thing anyone remembers about To Catch a Thief (and why it scores highly on general public) is the fireworks kiss

Late to this but plax talking truth

hitchcock shd make a movie abt whoever designed that unreadable square venn diagram

I think I like *I Confess* more because of the Canadian (?) flick that metaed it in the late 80s

There's a lot of Hitchcockian joy in random misfires tho, The Wrong Man is really good

whoever designed that unreadable square venn diagram

Saul Bass

Canadian (?) flick

Le Confessionnal), taking advantage of I Confess having been shot in Québec.

Good shout ta

TCAT is v watchable but plax wrong is better than many right

The sexiest and best scene in To Catch a Thief is when Grant swims out to the float to talk to Brigitte Auber, and then Grace Kelly swims out to join them

Just saw Dial M for Muder with 3-D glasses and there is really no good reason for that film to be in 3-D. One single effect in the big violent scene scene stays with me. If anything the 3-D makes Hitchcock's rear projection shots look worse.

Dial M just happened to be unluckily made in the first wave of trying to make 3D happen yeah?

I think I'd still argue that Gravity is the only 3D movie that uses it and transcends gimmickry

I'd say Herzog's documentary Cave of Forgotten Dreams.

Cool I shd see that then

xps Yeah and I think Dial M was rarely actually shown in 3-D when it was released, most theaters choosing to show the flat version of it.

But I've seen '50s films that do use 3-D very effectively, such as Creature from the Black Lagoon and Kiss Me Kate.

Foster Hirsch's new Hollywood and the Movies of the Fifties is good on the effect of 3D on production.

I just read that book and it's pretty great. Also the chapter on CinemaScope and other wide screen processes is very enlightening.

In fact that book is tied into the recent programming at the Film Forum in Manhattan where they've been showing a bunch of '50s films including 3-D ones. Hirsch has been there introducing some of the films.

I managed to miss that whole series but I did see Dial M for Murder in 3D back in the 80s at the 8th Street Playhouse, I think. The scissors are the only 3D that I remember.

yep the hand reaching out and the scissors is that one effect I was referring to

Also saw the 3D Dial M for Murder in the 1980s, w/ red and green glasses.

House of Wax has good gimmicky 3D effects.

Godard's Goodbye to Language has the most woozily disorientating use of the 'modern' 3D process I've ever seen.

Glad we're all discussing every Hitchcock _except_ the one just posted :)

I’m a big fan of Notorious, don’t know what to say about it right now. Claude Rains plays a similar kind of role in David Lean’s The Passionate Friends. Also like the way it is used in Dead Men Don’t Wear Plaid. The long long shot that goes from very wide to a tight tight closeup he liked to do so much is particularly well done in the famous example here.

Anyway, Notorious. While I do rank it in the top tier, I think what plax said about Rear Window applies more, with me, to Notorious. Once Hitch's hand is revealed, all that's left on rewatch is the thrill of the mechanics and the admittedly considerable spectacle of Cary Grant in Bastard Mode™.

But obviously that's minor carping. I just give a slight edge to the Hitches that are less in control, is all.

a lot of the joy of Hitch is the thrill of the mechanics

it suddenly occurs to me

Indeed

Bergman is sexy as fuck. So is Louis Calhern spreading cheese on crackers in bed.

xp agreed

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I'm trying hard to remember notorious. Tbh I misremembered it as spellbound. I'm sure I've seen it but don't remember it right now. I remember it was good though!

The one with Joan Fontaine and cary grant is only okay but I also really like Rebecca because I'm a teenage girl.

ooh is he *bad* idk I was not riveted

Spellbound is the one where Dollars cements his normie avant grift

but that one flash is sweet

39 steps is the hitch I watch the most. robert donat telling madeline carroll about what a dastardly murderer he is and getting to the bit about the "hare-lip" and mc laughing is just the best. it's also sexy as fuck.

Paradine Case truly is rubbish

Yep. And Spellbound.

Gregory Peck is the sexiest-dullest psychiatrist ever.

Maybe classic Hollywood's blandest leading man? Of those that retain a little name recognition anyway.

Really a block of wood pretty much every time I’ve seen him.

Like, say, Rock Hudson without the subtext.

He's fine in The Gunfighter, and that shows how his stiff moral rectitude should have been curdled into taciturn moral corruption more often - it seems sort of surprising that Hitch didn't find the same darkness as he did with Grant and Stewart. Perhaps the actor (or his agent) just didn't want to play ball and risk cracking an image.

Also quite effectively cast in Twelve O'Clock High.

i think he's good in roman holiday!

but he was only rarely ever in that manner of movie

in hollywood terms his "thing" was being an unusually outspoken "nice liberal" (spoke out against HUAC and vietnam, for example)

Notorious was good! Though felt like a great episode of a tv show rather than a great film. Act 3 was like 15 minutes in total, not enough. Cary Grant's plan was completely irresponsible and could have gotten her killed, he could have instead asked her to make an impression of the key in soap, make a copy of the key, break in at night, surely? not turn up at their party with a stolen key which happens to also be the place they are keeping the wine so he will definitely notice.

He had to humiliate her.

I did appreciate that he was just an insensitive prick and it didn't mean he was a villain, just that he was an insensitive prick.

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It's a Wonderful Life, Frank Capra, 1946
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Bit odd to watch this in November I know

Poster isn't notably Christmassy