Chicago: Smell the Glove

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Milwaukee does strike me as a place for a romantic gay getaway. But it's true, it will be a zillion times funner with Jesse.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 07:21 (twenty years ago)

seriously. i'll skip work to go with you to milwaukee.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 07:34 (twenty years ago)

c'mon chris. You totally have to take Jesse.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 07:42 (twenty years ago)

You can be Laverne, and I'll be Shirley.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 08:09 (twenty years ago)

"We're gonna do it!"

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 08:09 (twenty years ago)

Give us any chance, we’ll take it.
Give us any rule, we’ll break it.
We’re gonna make our dreams come true.
Doin’ it our way.

Nothin’s gonna turn us back now,
Straight ahead and on the track now.
We’re gonna make our dreams come true,
Doin’ it our way.

There is nothing we won’t try,
Never heard the word impossible.
This time there’s no stopping us.
We’re gonna do it.

On your mark, get set, and go now,
Got a dream and we just know now,
We’re gonna make our dream come true.
And we’ll do it our way, yes our way.
Make all our dreams come true,
And do it our way, yes our way,
Make all our dreams come true
For me and you.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 08:13 (twenty years ago)

Chicago Diner is in Boystown, not Andersonville. Get your gay neighborhoods straight!

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 5 March 2006 09:38 (twenty years ago)

Har har. Anyway I suppose I should have fact checked and not just trusted B. to know what neighborhood we were in.

Jesse, we're going Milwaukee mostly to go to a bookstore, possibly to go to a museum, and B. wants to check out some antique stores, if we find any good ones.

So it's not the most glamorous trip we're planning! Plus we're probably going to miss the Oscars, no? Also it's B. and A. and me going, which dampens any rrrrromantic factor, although I suppose we'd have the back seat during the drive...

I do agree that it would be a hundred mazillion times funner if you came along, though.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 5 March 2006 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Dear Chris,

I met someone new. He's taking me to Madison.

XOXO,

Jesse.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Who are B and A? I don't know these people do I? Amanda? I love Amanda. I neeeeed Amanda. Hug and Kiss, that is.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 14:40 (twenty years ago)

No, you don't know these people. B. is my ex, the one I've been staying with. A. is another friend in from Portland, the one who commandeered my inflatable mattress so I've had to share the real bed with my ex. Which, you know, whatever.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 5 March 2006 14:52 (twenty years ago)

They are both Quality People. We are all Quality People.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 5 March 2006 14:52 (twenty years ago)

Jesse and I just called each other at the SAME TIME OMGOMGOMGOMGOGOMG.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 5 March 2006 15:08 (twenty years ago)

It was fucking amazing.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Okay, Chris, you are officially making me crazy so drop it we shall.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 5 March 2006 15:22 (twenty years ago)

I didn't mean to make you crazy. And I think we're agreeing about everything important anyways.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 5 March 2006 15:27 (twenty years ago)

What are you doing in Madison, Jesse?

I've decided that I'm finally going to see something at the Madison film fest this year, so I'm going through the movies.

Self-important Emp1r1cal Film #3, with Voice-over
Wisconsin’s Own

USA, 2005, 5 min, Color, DVCam
Madison Premiere

Directed By: Dav3 Andra3
Sponsored By: travelwisconsin.com, Eastman Kodak

A clinically depressed filmmaker takes his audience on an irreverent, self-deprecating journey through his innermost thoughts and anxieties, complete with voiceover. Dave Andra3 is a graduate of UW–Milwaukee.
- Travis Gerdes

HAHA. I went to high school with this dude, and OF COURSE this is the sort of film he's making. And I'll be it's really not that self-deprecating.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 15:34 (twenty years ago)

I'm not going to Madison. I was playing crazy mind games with Chris. Now he's off balance!

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 15:36 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I'm also all for a day trip to Madison, but it seems further away, plus we already settled on Milwaukee.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 5 March 2006 15:39 (twenty years ago)

I'm trying to decide what bothers me so much about this one:

Mardi Gras: Made In China
Y'all Gonna Learn Chinese

USA, 2005, 71 min, Color, BetaSP
In Mandarin, English with English subtitles

Directed By: David Redmon
Producer: David Redmon
Executive Producer: Deborah Smith, Dale Smith
Cinematographer: David Redmon
Editor: David Redmon
Music: Matthew Dougherty
Cast: Ms. Pearl, Roger Wong, Ga Hong Mei, Lio Lina, Qui Bia, Ling Ling, Dom Corlone

Sponsored By: UW Asian American Studies Program

In a squalid Chinese factory, Ga Hong Mei spends eleven hours a day yanking strings of hot beads out of a dangerous machine. She struggles to fill enough bags to prevent her wages from getting docked. On the other side of the world, New Orleans native “Ms. Pearl” squeals with delight as she catches her zillionth tangle of glistening bead necklaces from a Mardi Gras float. Mardi Gras: Made in China portrays the immense disconnect between the factory and the consumer that arises in a global economy. The cultural and economical differences are stunning, as is the Chinese workers’ reaction to the sticker price of the beads and the astonishing way people “win” the beads. In tracing the path of the disposable commodity of Mardi Gras beads, filmmaker David Redmon tells a story about globalization in which CEOs aren’t really the bad guys, we are. Official selection, Sundance Film Festival, One World International Film Festival, Amnesty International Film Festival, and Human Rights Watch Film Festival.
- Heather Shimon

Maybe because it seems like an easy target? Or because it seems like a tastleless time to be down on New Orleans?

Are "we the bad guys" because, unlike most sweatshop products, drunk sorority girls show their tits to get beads? Not that abusive conditions for factory workers are acceptable, but New Orleans was a poor city even before Katrina and Mardi Gras pumps money into the economy every day of the year.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 15:45 (twenty years ago)

i'm glad jenny addressed the gal thing up there. i am on par with her.

also: i am at an internet cafe b/c after working on my physiology take home test for SEVEN hours & not finishing it, I'm resorting to "ask the internet" . . . granted, we still have one class left so the information gaps will probably be presented on tuesday, but I'd like to be done with this shit.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:04 (twenty years ago)

It seems like a very small industry to focus on and I certainly hope it is not the primary point of the movie, but rather a lens through which the film maker looked at sweatshops, etc. Could this film have been made had NO and Mardi Gras not been on our minds these days?

I assume the shock over the price is the result of the worker's surprise at how low the price is for something on which he worked so hard?

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:06 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure the price for the beads is more than they get paid, or at least makes obvious that they get paid shit.
I understand not wanting to target NO for a movie trying to illuminate discrepancy like this . . . but on the other hand, I think this movie sounds kind of interesting. I'm also a sucker for finding out more ways that I & fellow americans are oblivious & sorta suck.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:13 (twenty years ago)

I assumed it would be because the price is so high in relation to what he/she gets paid to make them.

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:18 (twenty years ago)

hey jordan! how's it going? i think leaf & i are going to try & catch your show next week.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:19 (twenty years ago)

It looks like there is no shortage of films like that at the Madison film fest, Kelsey. :>

Chain
Global Visions

USA, 2004, 99 min, Color, digibeta
Wisconsin Premiere

Directed By: Jem Cohen
Producer: Mary Jane Skalski
Writer: Jem Cohen
Cinematographer: Jem Cohen
Music: Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Cast: Miho Nikaido, Mira Billotte
Production Company: Antidote Films, Gravity Hill Films

Sponsored By: UW Global Studies Program

Chain, blurring the lines between documentary and fiction, examines the world and the influence of homogenization and corporate culture. A Japanese executive travels to the United States on business to research amusement parks looking to create a similar one at home, while an American drifter haunts a shopping mall looking for work and a place to sleep. Both move through a vast, imaginary American city created from footage shot all over the world, though no one locale is discernable from the next. Chain stores, fast-food restaurants, and featureless parking lots abound as regional character and charm slowly disappear. Chain features an incredible score by Godspeed You! Black Emperor. Recognized by the 2005 Independent Spirit Awards as “Someone To Watch,” Jem Cohen won numerous awards for his feature Benjamin Smoke (2000).
- Joe Beres

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Sweet!

(tater)

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Jem Cohen has done some good work, though!

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

I didn't think of that aspect of the price. I guess it would be mostly about how very little the worker gets paid? But that is the case for tons and tons of products. The beads retail for spare change for most styles. Why not focus on New Year's noisemakers or firecrackers or cheaply made dildos? I don't really think now is the best time to closely examine the repercussions of this very small industry that is focused in a place that is having its own serious hardships right now. Not when there are far more glaring and widespread injustices and inequities to look at. Perhaps a film best put on ice for a while?

Anyway I can't criticize a film I haven't even seen-- though I just did.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

HA! I'm all over it. This must be what people are talking about when they say, 'liberal guilt.'

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

I never grew up with Catholic guilt, so I may as well take on the liberal guilt.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:24 (twenty years ago)

nothing kills a thread like guilt.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:51 (twenty years ago)

I have Lower-Middle-Class-Lapsed-Seventh-Day-Adventist-Gay-German-Mexican-American guilt. Which is pretty manageable after a couple of beers.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:54 (twenty years ago)

Is it the 7th day folks that don't eat vinegar?

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:58 (twenty years ago)

Hell no. We ate vinegar like crazy. Mostly apple cider vinegar. We didn't eat pork (or other non-hoofed animals) or shellfish or fish without scales or other unclean foods. In retrospect it is interesting that I grew up with the word "unclean" as a not uncommon part of household language. It seems so exotic and biblical now.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)

foods/animals with some kind of barrier are okay? does that mean that bananas are good but apples aren't?

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Sunday, 5 March 2006 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Bananas are gross and apples are good. Thus saith the Lord, our God.

Food laws: think kosher, but less strict. Preparation does not matter, only source.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 17:16 (twenty years ago)

Amanda? I love Amanda. I neeeeed Amanda. Hug and Kiss, that is.
You mean ME? I didn't even know that you liked me, much less LOVED me! Are you talking about me? I'm going to pretend that you mean me. I enjoy kissing, hugging and being loved and needed.

Also; I'm still up for hanging out tomorrow night, if anyone else is? I was thinking Moody's, maybe around 8? They have free peanuts and cheap pitchers...

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 5 March 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)

i didn't know people were hanging out tomorrow .. .. .. is it for laura's birthday?

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Sunday, 5 March 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

The snow, she is very pretty.

Shiny Maroon (kenan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 17:53 (twenty years ago)

it is nice, isn't it? i was going to run a 5K today (once i finish with this physiology), but now I want to go to a movie. or drink hot chocolate.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Sunday, 5 March 2006 17:57 (twenty years ago)

i didn't know people were hanging out tomorrow .. .. .. is it for laura's birthday?
Nah, she's in Cleveland with her fam, but I thought that since I have a free evening and I hadn't met Chris yet, maybe it would be an ok hangout night. So far the headcount is: me.

Another nice thing about Moody's in the winter: two fireplaces.
On the other hand, you leave reeking of french fry, but that's not a big deal.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 5 March 2006 18:01 (twenty years ago)

what time?

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Sunday, 5 March 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)

Does that mean that you're in? Yaaaay! How about 8?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 5 March 2006 18:09 (twenty years ago)

It means, "it depends" more than "i'm in" at this point. i'd like to meet chris . . . i'd like to get out of my house . . . but there are other stress factors. like moving NEXT WEEK. i'm moving NEXT WEEK!! argh! that said, i can probably swing by for a short time if nothing else.

sorry to whine so much.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Sunday, 5 March 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe there's this much Chicago thread activity on a Sunday morning, kee-rist.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 5 March 2006 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Don't worry - I don't want to stay out late or anything, since I get up at 5 on Mondays and will be coming from class, where my brain explodes on a weekly basis. No pressure -- although if I'm the only one going, there's no need to go at all.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 5 March 2006 18:17 (twenty years ago)

John, I'm calling you! Check your messages!

Shiny Maroon (kenan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)

he's on the phone right now . . . with me!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Sunday, 5 March 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)

My favorite hat just came to a sad end. I left it on top of the radiator, then turned the radiator on this morning, then smelled burning hair... egh. So now my room smells like charred animal remains, and my favorite hat has orange scorch marks on one side.

Fuck burning a hat.

Shiny Maroon (kenan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)


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