Pathetic isn't it?
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 November 2023 15:00 (two years ago)
Braverman sacked...
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 November 2023 08:40 (two years ago)
You beat me to it.Struggling to think who’s worse they could appoint. 3p Lee maybe?
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 13 November 2023 08:41 (two years ago)
in 2023 we just have to enjoy the small victories as they happen
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 08:42 (two years ago)
idk, is this where she launches her leadership bid?
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 13 November 2023 08:47 (two years ago)
Yeah maybe but NV otm
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 13 November 2023 08:50 (two years ago)
The ironically-named James Cleverly is the new home secretary apparently, which means a whole reshuffle I suppose.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 13 November 2023 09:03 (two years ago)
Sunak grows a pair or, more likely, they've been hearing from Tory MPs in nice peaceful Tory constituencies who are shitting themselves over losing their seats to the Lib Dems.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 13 November 2023 09:25 (two years ago)
We are lucky that leaning this heavily into fascism is not yet a proven vote-winning strategy in the UK.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 13 November 2023 09:34 (two years ago)
> Struggling to think who’s worse they could appoint.
jenrick?
― koogs, Monday, 13 November 2023 09:36 (two years ago)
Yeah notably Sunak announced a list of five areas for crackdown, including on "from the rivers to the sea" - but he announced them rather than Braverman or them both together suggests he's comfortable with cracking down on pro-Palestinian marches (while being a lot less fond of the Football Lads Aliiance, sorry I mean the Democratic Football Lads Alliance)
https://web.archive.org/web/20231113090234/https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24714273/rishi-sunak-protest-clampdown-armistice-day-palestine-march/
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 13 November 2023 09:41 (two years ago)
sadlol Cameron. Sure let's get people used to non-MPs in a Tory Cabinet...
― nashwan, Monday, 13 November 2023 09:41 (two years ago)
Yes, I'm fairly sure Sunak agrees with Braverman on most things.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 13 November 2023 09:42 (two years ago)
the base her rhetoric was playing to are more likely to be Patriotic Alternative members than tory voters and it seems there are some limits to how fascist your speech can be within the UK govt, who'd have thought that was possible!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 13 November 2023 09:46 (two years ago)
Does sacking her now mean they expect to lose the Supreme Court appeal on Rwanda?
― nashwan, Monday, 13 November 2023 09:49 (two years ago)
Lord David Cameron is the new Foreign Secretary. You couldn't make it up.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 13 November 2023 09:57 (two years ago)
I think she'd be gone by the end of the week anyway, but the timing has some relevance - there's a ruling on the Rwanda scheme due this week; if the ruling came down against the scheme, then there's the opportunity for her to demand pulling out of the European Court of Human Rights, and leave on a point of principle.
I mean also as a pint of timing, no-one wants to accidentally win a Tory leadership contest before the election!
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 13 November 2023 09:59 (two years ago)
jesus wept, I thought youse were joking about Cameron
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:11 (two years ago)
I wouldn't see this as being about policy differences really, much more about Braverman openly ridiculing Sunak's authority
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:12 (two years ago)
Hahahaha fucking hell, didn’t Sunak slag him off at conference last year
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:13 (two years ago)
I guess this takes some media attention away from Braverman.
― nashwan, Monday, 13 November 2023 10:13 (two years ago)
I guess as a side note he wants to appeal to the polite racists of the liberal commentariat rather than actual boot boys but I think that's the lesser issue for him
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:13 (two years ago)
good to see them leaning back to a more civil and centrist-leaning brand of tory fascism
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:16 (two years ago)
i guess Cameron felt he’d left some small part of his legacy untarnished so has taken action to correct that
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:20 (two years ago)
yes it's all about optics, Sunak and Braverman have the same ideology but he's a nice polished man while she's an angry woman*, tories want their fascism served politely
* nb this in no way means you should champion her as a victim of sexism
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 13 November 2023 10:28 (two years ago)
I can’t believe I’m defending Sunak but while he’s awful, I really don’t think he’s on her level at all
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:30 (two years ago)
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:31 (two years ago)
i guess Sunak probably comes from a more globalist ideology if we must be fair to the lad
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:36 (two years ago)
anyway i'm psyched for Foreign Secretary Cameroon meets Special Ambassador for Genocide T Blair
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:40 (two years ago)
it would be so hilarious if they beat Starmer in the next GE by matching some of their least shit policies and running a fake one-nation reboot campaign, that 6/1 being quoted might start looking very generous by 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:43 (two years ago)
Analysis pic.twitter.com/UFsrUbProI— Peter (@pickyouredge) November 13, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 November 2023 10:50 (two years ago)
good to see Peter O'Hanraha-Hanrahan still getting work
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:51 (two years ago)
my bad, it was Spartacus Mills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pr8xnNi7OM
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:53 (two years ago)
Massive and Seismic?
Three people?
― Mark G, Monday, 13 November 2023 11:05 (two years ago)
salad of all the big beasts
― mark s, Monday, 13 November 2023 11:21 (two years ago)
big beast more like ROUGH BEAST (its hour come round at last)
https://i.imgur.com/uHFWMDL.jpg
― mark s, Monday, 13 November 2023 11:34 (two years ago)
Owen Jones@OwenJones84One thing I will say in David Cameron's favour is that, in 2010, he correctly described Gaza as a "prison camp".
He should be asked if he still believes this, because we won't win peace if we erase the historical context of the current horror.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 November 2023 11:50 (two years ago)
OJ openly calling Ed Balls a sneering prick (paraphrase) cos of that shit podcast he has with George Osborne & this - man’s all out of fucks
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 13 November 2023 12:10 (two years ago)
Ed Balls best be careful who he’s calling ‘intellectually second-rate’.
― steely flan (suzy), Monday, 13 November 2023 12:17 (two years ago)
lmao the clip with Jones saying "so childish" to Balls as the camera is on gormless Streeting
― nashwan, Monday, 13 November 2023 12:20 (two years ago)
Ed Balls is a total pos but he’s not stupid
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 13 November 2023 12:25 (two years ago)
https://i.postimg.cc/BQyNsChY/20231113-123226.png
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 13 November 2023 12:34 (two years ago)
I haven't had a tv license for years so I am mystified by the media resurrection of charisma-vacuum Ed Balls. Do the public actually like him? And if so, why?
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 13 November 2023 14:59 (two years ago)
He has powerful friends, such as Gideon.
― nashwan, Monday, 13 November 2023 15:10 (two years ago)
brb reporting glumdalclitch to the authorities
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 November 2023 15:10 (two years ago)
my sister's a big Strictly fan and I don't think she gives a shit about him
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 15:11 (two years ago)
They like Matt Hancock so anything is possible.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 13 November 2023 15:12 (two years ago)
xxp for the tv license or not liking ed balls? cos in Der Starmer's UK I guess both might be mandatory.It's cool though I don't watch tv. I just illegally download
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 13 November 2023 15:16 (two years ago)
after Hancock's recent media forays Farage is being paid £1.5mil to go eat a kangaroo's balls in the jungle, they all know fine well what a bit of "charm and charisma" can do with the easily-led idiots in this country, c.f the guy on Big Brother who looks like a contender for the win saying he's a Tory because "he'd like to go for martinis with Boris"
― boxedjoy, Monday, 13 November 2023 17:37 (two years ago)
Really doubt the public likes Matt Hancock, think it's more that ppl in charge of programming think it'll get eyeballs.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 13 November 2023 19:09 (two years ago)