God Has Abandoned Us: U.S. Politics November 2023

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Yes, it's fairer to accuse him of two steps forward, one step back

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 November 2023 12:25 (two years ago)

lol, "siding with rail companies" and "union busting."

the administration intervened to prevent a strike because of the effect a rail stoppage would have on the economy. AND they continued to push for paid sick days. union negotiations continued and now most US rail worker now have sick leave.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/most-unionized-us-rail-workers-now-have-new-sick-leave-2023-06-05/

bulb after bulb, Thursday, 9 November 2023 13:37 (two years ago)

you can disagree on the correctness of the strike call, but it is not union busting. we're a union household and Biden has strongly and repeatedly spoke on the importance of unions, and supported them.

bulb after bulb, Thursday, 9 November 2023 13:51 (two years ago)

I'm not disputing you bulb, but grim lol at 4 days of sick leave per year being a win in the era of covid

rob, Thursday, 9 November 2023 14:01 (two years ago)

agreed

bulb after bulb, Thursday, 9 November 2023 14:16 (two years ago)

bulb & rob otm

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 9 November 2023 14:50 (two years ago)

lol, "siding with rail companies" and "union busting."

the administration intervened to prevent a strike because of the effect a rail stoppage would have on the economy. AND they continued to push for paid sick days. union negotiations continued and now most US rail worker now have sick leave.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/most-unionized-us-rail-workers-now-have-new-sick-leave-2023-06-05🕸/🕸


ask a rail what they think of the new sick leave policies and how Biden fucked them over. guarantee you’ll get an earful. (i know a lot of rail workers)

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 9 November 2023 15:05 (two years ago)

Meanwhile it's looking like the Moms 4 Liberty wave has peaked and is receding in a lot of places. Not totally surprising — polling pretty consistently shows majorities most places in favor of teaching real history and against banning books — but good to see.

https://popular.info/p/update-school-board-voters-fight

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 9 November 2023 15:29 (two years ago)

They're empowered in Florida, alas, thanks to Governor Chicken Fingers.

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 November 2023 15:30 (two years ago)

Mostly true in deep blue MN too, but for an unfortunate result in Anoka-Hennepin (state's largest, and very suburban, district).

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2023 15:33 (two years ago)

I know when M4L types show up at school board meetings here everyone just rolls their eyes.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 November 2023 15:33 (two years ago)

one of my former coworkers was a school board candidate that defeated M4L-backed candidates this week!

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 9 November 2023 15:50 (two years ago)

I love M4L... Max4Live

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 9 November 2023 16:36 (two years ago)

that's right

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 9 November 2023 16:37 (two years ago)

Re: M4L- It seems like their intention was to make up for what they lacked in numbers and actual support, with sheer volume, brashness and headline-making amplification. It worked on the short term, until people caught on. Turns out those headlines that they were relying on to make it seem like they were riding a big wave of support, came around and bit them by causing just the sort of backlash you would expect.

epistantophus, Thursday, 9 November 2023 16:38 (two years ago)

My wife was lurking on the local M4L FB group for a couple of years and watched them ping pong from "re-open the schools" to "no more masks" to anti-CRT and anti-trans all the while purging anyone who offered a deviant opinion and finally demanded dues money to stay in the group. So it's basically lure them in, radicalize them, soak them for cash.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 November 2023 16:45 (two years ago)

I can see how this has also shrunk their numbers.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 November 2023 16:46 (two years ago)

yeah, M4L is basically the Westboro Baptist Church now.

henry s, Thursday, 9 November 2023 16:46 (two years ago)

the level of in-fighting in M4L and similar groups is insane

a similar group in my state called the "mama bears" managed to blow up after one of the leaders made false allegations of abuse in her peer's home. turns out those calls are recorded and it's illegal to lie about that!

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 9 November 2023 17:46 (two years ago)

You get all the craziest most unpleasant people all together in one place, crazy and unpleasant things will happen. Marx said this.

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 9 November 2023 17:52 (two years ago)

"the craziest most unpleasant people all together in one place" for December thread title

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2023 17:56 (two years ago)

I hope you keep a Google Doc file with these proposed title, little flower.

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 November 2023 18:02 (two years ago)

LOL pic.twitter.com/vbGG4xhTX6

— Acyn (@Acyn) November 9, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 November 2023 19:13 (two years ago)

Manchin announcing he will not seek reelection

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 9 November 2023 19:44 (two years ago)

Maybe the WV dems can find someone electable who's not such a dickhead. Obviously the problem there is 'electable'; they could find someone who's less of a dickhead by holding a lottery.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 9 November 2023 19:56 (two years ago)

That seat will surely go to a Republican.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 9 November 2023 19:57 (two years ago)

Well it didn't take long for someone to come along and crush my dreams.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:00 (two years ago)

Manchin knew he was going to lose to Jim Justice. Maybe he'll join Kennedy, West and Stein as a sixth party candidate.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:05 (two years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/qMJ3ZPR.png

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:09 (two years ago)

https://thetoycollectorsguide.files.wordpress.com/2021/03/img_0172.jpg?w=520

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:14 (two years ago)

A Manchin Presidential run was discussed during the three seconds the No Labels Party was a thing.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:14 (two years ago)

No Labels Party will be a thing as long as there are rich dupes

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:15 (two years ago)

yeah, his endorsements are the golden touch, that's how we ended up with Senator Herschel Walker (R) who knows a thing or two about werewolves & vampires

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:15 (two years ago)

It’s been a weird couple years

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:17 (two years ago)

Yeah Justice will romp and it was looking dicey for Manchin anyway. In respects this clarifies things all around; don't have to headscratch over it, allocating resources etc.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:19 (two years ago)

So long, Creepy Joe.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:22 (two years ago)

Sinema is still on-track to get primaried next year, yes?

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:23 (two years ago)

Manchin wants to get back down in his coal mine, back to basics, back where it all began

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:24 (two years ago)

xpost You can't primary her, she already quit the party

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:25 (two years ago)

are there any states dems are expected to flip a seat?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:25 (two years ago)

Not that I've seen. WV will go Republican, the Dems will be lucky to hang onto AZ and OH.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:28 (two years ago)

Ted Cruz and Rick Scott are the only ones who could conceivably picked off

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:29 (two years ago)

And that's unlikely

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:29 (two years ago)

Still, gotta say...I like this guy:

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:x4qyokjtdzgl7gmqhsw4ajqj/bafkreiea25ghzfa2axerb6oze6x5tmj2ame4xbxxusffg44q76vrxpshoy@jpeg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:30 (two years ago)

yeah, maybe he can pull a Fetterman

#CarhartDems

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:34 (two years ago)

wow, Luke Combs running for senator

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:36 (two years ago)

Re Sinema:

SCOOP — NRSC poll presented to GOP senators at lunch today has Ruben Gallego cruising in a 3-person contest w/ Kari Lake & Sen. Kyrsten Sinema

Gallego 41
Lake 37
Sinema 17

Daines said poll shows Sinema is splitting the R vote, not D vote

w/ @bresreportshttps://t.co/mDLv3uREtd

— Andrew Desiderio (@AndrewDesiderio) October 31, 2023

jaymc, Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:39 (two years ago)

(Not sure I would call a 4-point lead "cruising," but seems like Gallego is in good position.)

jaymc, Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:40 (two years ago)

Roffle, that would be kinda weirdly perfect.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:41 (two years ago)

That's a pretty good margin, for sure.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:43 (two years ago)


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